Topic: MAC or PC... & why?
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Sun 03/07/10 06:48 PM


My lil girl wants an itouch for her b'day ...


I'll be selling my iPod Touch as soon as I get the iPad... I bought it mostly so that I could have a ton of music in my car, but the car has it's own hard drive for this already so....



Hmmmm ... winking ... Perhaps I should buy it?

blushing ... Ummmmmm, Just what size is it anyway? ... spock


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Sun 03/07/10 07:03 PM

blushing ... Ummmmmm, Just what size is it anyway? ... spock


... tongue2

Well you should know by now that it's going to be big :wink:

















(...32gig) smile2

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Sun 03/07/10 07:09 PM


blushing ... Ummmmmm, Just what size is it anyway? ... spock


... tongue2

Well you should know by now that it's going to be big :wink:

















(...32gig) smile2



... bigsmile ... Welllll, alriiiiiiiiiiiighty then!


Kate, come on dooooooooown .... Let's Make A Deal, Monty ... :thumbsup:

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Sun 03/07/10 09:07 PM
Mac's are awesome computers.First of all the obvious little to no virus/malware.I know over 5 people including myself that have had their pc's shrivel up and die due to virus'.i know if you stay away from stupid s#%t you shouldn't get a virus but I stayed away from stupid s#%t and down she went.mac's are also much better for graphic design and studio recording. and if you are talking about which is the better computer for gaming???Get an xbox already...come on.pc games just suck unless your into lame rpg games...shooting boars for power up points or some s#%t like that.mac's all the way.pc people are just scurred.

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Sun 03/07/10 09:28 PM
<-------- iMac Gurl smitten


Reliable, powerful ........ and sooooooo sleek and contemporary love

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Sun 03/07/10 09:55 PM


I work on Macs all the time & know all about new Macs.

If that were true then you wouldn't have said what you said...

The hardware equivalent of my recording computer would be in the two to four thousand range if I got a Mac.


Not true! There is no way that you'd require more than any professional engineer does and Logic Studio and every Mac sold today can run it. All you'd need to do is upgrade the memory from 1 gig to 4 (for any larger EXS instruments) and even the Mac mini can handle 4 Gigs these days. With Snow Leopard new Mac's can support 16 terabytes of memory, and 64-bit applications like Logic Pro 9.1 and MainStage 2.1 can fully take advantage of this larger memory capacity. Third-party developers also create products especially for the Mac. Apogee and Euphonix, which are two examples, and both are renowned for their audio hardware, have entire product lines completely devoted to musicians who work on a Mac. Literally thousands upon thousands of professional engineers/musicians use Macs everyday for their productions. More and more everyday people are learning the truth about the new crop of Macs available, and they are switching to Macs for their production work.

Hey if you want to use a peecee for your recording then have at it, enjoy... no skin off anyone else's butt, but just don't try to suggest that Macs are in any way inferior because I've been a recording engineer for over 35 years (not brag'in, just say'in) and that dog just won't hunt :wink: (sigh... still miss the Teac A3340S days...every now and then I have to view this):




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc0JqDjA4IU



.:banana:


While your right about any of the new crop of Macs available can run Logic Audio, that doesn't mean it can handle near a hundred tracks with multiple effects on each with a bunch of verbs and virtual instrument tracks. That's a typical project for me and those I record. You need serious processing power, like an i7, which in the mac world means having to get a Mac Pro which I can't afford.

I don't load a lot of samplers so ram is not really an issue, though I'd never run my rig with less than four gigs. Not to mention, with a mini or imac I can't add the terabytes of storage space I need for doing video. It's cpu power and storage space I need which means I'd have to get a Mac Pro, which again, I can't afford.

The only rig Mac offers to do what I do is a Mac Pro which is out of my budget. If it weren't for the hefty pricetag, I would probably be here too singing Job's praise, a fanatical fanboy like yourself. The bottom line is that both pcs and macs can get the job done, it's just that pcs are half the price (referring to an i7 rig vs a mac pro). And your right, probably a majority of studios are running macs; they're also running hundred thousand dollar Pro Tools rigs.

It's a budget thing

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Sun 03/07/10 09:56 PM

iMac Gurl


Mac women are always extra sexy (and smarter too) :thumbsup:

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Sun 03/07/10 10:01 PM

a mini or imac I can't add the terabytes of storage space I need for doing video.

Sure you can, that's what a miniStack is for. I have two of them and they work great :thumbsup:

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Sun 03/07/10 10:02 PM


iMac Gurl


Mac women are always extra sexy (and smarter too) :thumbsup:


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Sun 03/07/10 10:02 PM
Edited by ArtGurl on Sun 03/07/10 10:03 PM
sorry ... mingle hiccup oops

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Sun 03/07/10 10:07 PM
And angelars, for an idea of what I'm talking about, your $600, affordable Mini that you keep referring to comes with a Core 2 duo 2.26 processor. Now compare that on this performance chart with the least expensive i7

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

A Mac Mini or iMac can NOT handle the audio and video projects I do. Render times would be outrageous for HD and it wouldn't allow for the effects I load in my DAW. Mac Pro's are NOT affordable. I've built i7 boxes for under a grand

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Sun 03/07/10 10:24 PM
I just configured a comparable system on Apple's website to the PC I built for under a grand. Guess what? It's three grand; triple what I paid for the same performance.

Smoke and mirrors guys. Ooh, but it's soo shiny whoa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xgls9IwWUyU laugh

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Sun 03/07/10 10:56 PM
Here's an inexpensive powerhouse machine that's every bit as good as a Mac Pro, albeit not as pretty. Way more ram, and hard drive space. It's also a third of the price


http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11512154&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|84|56671|78518&N=4035050&Mo=41&pos=1&No=12&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=78518&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&ec=BC-EC10600-Cat56671&topnav=

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Tue 03/09/10 02:20 PM
Dual boot PCs, because my livelihood makes 2D and 3D AutoCAD a necessity and it's not currently available on MACs.

As for the virus question, there's always the option of The Penguin. The machine upon which this post is being typed has been running on the same load of Linux since 2002. If I recall correctly, it's only locked up once in all that time when a USB stick bit the dust for some reason.

If I ever get the time, I still want to play with getting Linux to run on something like an old SGI Octane or Indigo and use that to get on the Internet. I know that a hospital near here has some old Octanes in storage.

-Kerry O.

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Tue 03/09/10 03:21 PM
Intriguing, TY ... flowerforyou



Dual boot PCs, because my livelihood makes 2D and 3D AutoCAD a necessity and it's not currently available on MACs.

As for the virus question, there's always the option of The Penguin. The machine upon which this post is being typed has been running on the same load of Linux since 2002. If I recall correctly, it's only locked up once in all that time when a USB stick bit the dust for some reason.

If I ever get the time, I still want to play with getting Linux to run on something like an old SGI Octane or Indigo and use that to get on the Internet. I know that a hospital near here has some old Octanes in storage.

-Kerry O.

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Tue 03/09/10 04:17 PM

Dual boot PCs, because my livelihood makes 2D and 3D AutoCAD a necessity and it's not currently available on MACs.

Macs don't need dual boot because you can run several OS's at the same time... :banana:

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Tue 03/09/10 04:19 PM
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Tue 03/09/10 04:25 PM

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Tue 03/09/10 04:27 PM


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Wow! Cheers ... I'm watching right now ... drinker


I so want the Adobe Creative Suite too ...

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Tue 03/09/10 05:42 PM


Dual boot PCs, because my livelihood makes 2D and 3D AutoCAD a necessity and it's not currently available on MACs.

Macs don't need dual boot because you can run several OS's at the same time... :banana:


And I can do that with VM Ware if I want to, too. Point is, why would I want to risk losing a complicated drawing that's costing my boss a lot of money in lost labor when it burps just to prove a point?

I know for a fact that my machine does a good job running AutoCAD under Windows XP-- and that a Mac without possibly schitzy virtual machine software can't. So why would I discard the known for the unknown and pay for extra software to do so??

The right machine for the job is that one that gets the job done for a reasonable amount of money. And for me and AutoCAD, that's a PC right now.

Sheesh, don't turn this into a Slashdot Holy War.

-Kerry O.