Ooooooo....I love angry women.

There are no songs that would be considered worshipping Santa.

And, I am opposed to songs that teach my children that the Christian god is the one and only.

I dont believe in punishing anyone either. I think we just see things differently. I dont think singing about killing is anything comparable to singing about peace and love and glory. What it is promoting is important and perhaps that is the rub. Some feel it is promoting a person or a god and others feel it is promoting an attitude of love and peace. I cannot think of a song that exists that someone somewhere doesnt have some issue with but music should not be banned because EVERYONE cant agree all the time. The songs of christmas inspire peace and love and I think just because there is mention of Christ everyone goes up in arms. I think if you dont believe in Christ it would be no different than singing about Santa Claus,,,,

There are many people whose families may not think we are the land of the free and brave,, but how many school children still must sing it in school programs around the country. I just fail to see why people get so up in arms just because Christ is mentioned. We have the freedom to act and believe any way we want in this country , Unless we aknowledge a belief in Christ,,,,it always astonishes me


The only issue I would have with the situation at your school is that children were not equally welcome to participate...that was wrong.

so now the children were punished? Uhm... ok....

just becuase there are children with alternate views in the class - the rest of them have to give up their beliefs and enjoyment of the season?

Liberals forget that both sides are valid, not just their own.

500 kids in the class, most all of them love christams -- because "little moon unit" opposes singing "Oh Holy Night" -- the rest of the children have to suffer?...

You were "forced" to attend? and "made" to sing? I highly doubt this is fact....

$.02

I don't disagree with you on this. Peace and Joy should absolutly be embraced.
My point was that you're implying that the songs have no meaning. They're just words.
These kinds of things are very symbolic. Would you try to feed a pork chop to a Muslim? Because after all, it's just a pork chop. It doesn't really mean anything right?

Back to the original topic. What is wrong with having a Winter Holiday show where all the children sing two Christian songs, two Pagan songs, two Jewish songs and two Muslim songs?

I will tell you. The show would be too damn long.

Cut it down to one song per religion and it would be perfect.

lol,,that analogy completely escaped me,,,,but I still love ya

I would not feed it to them or a Jew, But I just might make a catchy little Tune about it, and Sing it to them Ever hear of Adam Sandler?

They were punished by not being able to participate and losing their grade in the class when they didn't sing.
No I wasn't "forced" to attend. However, I'm not going to not come and support my child when she's putting on a performance.

I demand the children all sing "I want a hippopotamus for Christmas"...in English, Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin, French, Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Celtic, etc......did I leave anyone out?

you too. I've always had respect for you, still do. We can just agree to disagree

That's because you're still not understanding the power of words. But, that's okay. I'm tired of arguing and we can just agree to disagree.

This seems like an issue that should be followed up on. Certainly,, they couldnt legally punish a childs grade for something that they didnt permit the child to do......I would advise those parents to definitely call the Bd of Ed and file complaint.,,sounds unfair and illegal.

Whew! That was fun. How about we all go out for a drink now?

agreed. In the other school she attended before we moved, the program was Christmas, Kwanzaa, Hanukkuah, and a few others altogether. Promoting peace, joy, holiday festivites, and family. I still believe tho that all religion should be kept out of it. Completely.

Dang , I dont do liquer but Im game for a ginger ale...

Awesome! You can be the designated driver!

Jameson goes great with ginger ale you take what you want, I'll have the rest

deal...

This is a double edge sword!
We have always Celebrated Christmas *CHRIST-MAS* In our homes and public. But because Muslims or people from any other country move here, we are suppose to give it up.
I don't think so.

We are expected to let them practice their own religion, so why should we be forced to hide ours!!

If they don't like it... go home.
We can not practice Christianity in Muslim countries..will get a death sentence for doing so.

Live and let live.

But no, practicing ones religion does NOT cause a drop in a childs grades. it is taken into consideration and adjusted for.