The actual CHRISTMAS holiday is taken from the words CHRISTS MASS.. so it does involve christ.....but that is besides the issue.

We cannot expect to include every celebration and every holiday but that does not mean that we should make all holidays invisible by lumping them together either. I believe parents can pull together in communities where the religion is something other than christian and ask their schools to include programs that reflect that. I am sure many native american schools probably have native american themes,, same is true in schools where the predominant student is of a christian background. I dont agree with excluding people based upon religion, but I do believe people of all religions should be able to participate in programs without feeling intimidated or discriminated against just because the program reflects someone elses beliefs or interests.

Then you are in the minority. Most Christians would have a problem with the Moon Goddess being sung to by their children. Chrisianity specifically prohibits the worship of any other gods.

The actual CHRISTMAS holiday is taken from the words CHRISTS MASS.. so it does involve christ.....but that is besides the issue.

We cannot expect to include every celebration and every holiday but that does not mean that we should make all holidays invisible by lumping them together either. I believe parents can pull together in communities where the religion is something other than christian and ask their schools to include programs that reflect that. I am sure many native american schools probably have native american themes,, same is true in schools where the predominant student is of a christian background. I dont agree with excluding people based upon religion, but I do believe people of all religions should be able to participate in programs without feeling intimidated or discriminated against just because the program reflects someone elses beliefs or interests.

My point is that children that do not believe in Jesus should not be forced to sing praises to the Messiah or the fail the class.

Well, this is probably a debate for the religious forums, but I believe worship is something that starts in the heart. If I am singing a song as part of my educational requirement , that is a far cry from me worshiping anyone. Worship comes from a choice of the heart. I sing danny boy, but IM not irish, I can sing o Hannukah , though I am not jewish. I can hum, I kissed a girl, even though I havent and wouldnt,,,,etc,,,,

I respect that. I guess we differ in what we define as praising vs just singing. If I dont believe in something,, singing about it isnt praising it,,its just saying some words to a catchy melody,,

It is a debate for the religious forums. I don't know many Christians who believe it is okay to sing praises to other gods just because you don't mean it in your heart.

In fact, that's why most Christian martyrs died. Because they refused to acknowledge any other god - even to lie about it just to save their own lives.

Just an example:

I live in a town where only members of the KKK live. Every year they hold a big party and sit around singing songs about how they torture and kill minorities. I join in because that's just the prevailing belief where I live - I don't really mean it or believe it - I just want to be a part of the group and not make a stink about it.

Is that okay?


Words are powerful.

What's the big deal, We had Halloween, Valentines day, Easter, Christmas etc. etc. In School as a Kid it was fun, even if you were Satanic??

If any other religion wants to play it up, Let them have a go at it.

Our Founding Fathers would be discusted at we have become.

Americans should speak english, Americans should have parties in school.

If someone want's to praise another form of God, which is pretty much all the same god, Let them get together and put on a play, Maybe one where they re-create 911 on stage???? If that makes them happy!

words of peace and joy,, are not the same as words promoting violence and killing,, I think that is a bad analogy

If the songs were singing about crucifying the lord or killing allah, I would agree with you,,but none of the songs the op listed are ANTI anyone , they just happen to be about peace and love and mention Christ(as in Christmas).

actually, this school did NOT have a halloween party this year. They have been banned.

Can't we all just get along??

Again, this is prbably better suited to the religion forum because I am not talking specifically about what songs the kids are allowed to sing. What I'm talking about is the idea that the songs you sing and the words you say don't really matter as long as you don't believe them to be true. That was your point when you stated that you would allow your child to sing Pagan worship songs, was it not?

My point is that words to matter. Very much. But, this is off topic. Sorry.

Can't we all just get along??