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Are Americans angrier today than in the past? Or do we simply have fewer inhibitions about acting out in public and no longer let anger seethe beneath the surface? Some say increasing narcissism today makes us upset when we don't get what we want...really? Three related questions...take your pick or opine on all three...
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I think fewer inhibitions and narcissism. Nowadays everyone is "entitled" to everything, right?
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more angry?
nahh I'm just as angry as I was under Nixon and Carter and Clinton and Bush but then Reagan kinda mellowed me out. he had such a smooth voice but yeah when you look up road rage it has my picture flippin somebody off |
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I don't think it is so much anger as stressed. We live in a time where there are more expectations placed on us, more single parent homes, and more 2 income families just to get by.
I think the younger you are the more likely you are to act out your anger in public. Older people grew up in a more controlled environment where we were disciplined by everyone in our lives-parents, teachers, neighbors. Today, no one is allowed to say anything to youth without consequences. We have enabled the youth of our country to pretty much act however they please. As parents we have given to our children much more than in previous generations and we have catered to their every whim. We make sure they have the latest electronics, are in organized sports where everyone makes the team and everyone plays and we no longer keep score so no one child's feelings are hurt. So when children become young adults they do not know how to act when they are faced with disappointment. |
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"out of my way, Peck"
"don't call me Peck" "Peck, Peck, Peck, Peck, Peck, Peck" |
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I don't think it is so much anger as stressed. We live in a time where there are more expectations placed on us, more single parent homes, and more 2 income families just to get by. I think the younger you are the more likely you are to act out your anger in public. Older people grew up in a more controlled environment where we were disciplined by everyone in our lives-parents, teachers, neighbors. Today, no one is allowed to say anything to youth without consequences. We have enabled the youth of our country to pretty much act however they please. As parents we have given to our children much more than in previous generations and we have catered to their every whim. We make sure they have the latest electronics, are in organized sports where everyone makes the team and everyone plays and we no longer keep score so no one child's feelings are hurt. So when children become young adults they do not know how to act when they are faced with disappointment.   |
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"out of my way, Peck" "don't call me Peck" "Peck, Peck, Peck, Peck, Peck, Peck" Hell, Q-Man...that's not anger...you're still fightin' with last week's chili! 
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Thu 11/19/09 08:25 AM
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I've always found that the credible threat of physical violence solves most problems
workin as a roustabout (oilfield maintenance) and all the wet... I mean, ummm, ahem, "undocumented foreign born employees" would crawl under the trucks at lunch and nap never could get em movin after lunch so one day I picked up a 72" pipe wrench (almost as tall as me) and spun around and around and around and let it go under that truck they came out of there then and never had a problem gettin em movin after that |
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but anyway we're talking about society in general, not me, huh
I think they are. I think its a result of crowding. too many people in too small of a space it happens with monkey and rats too. if you overcrowd em in their cages they start lashing out and attacking each other me, I'm just naturally pissed off most of the time so I dont count |
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I am not sure if people are angrier these days, but being able to post in forums, from a computer, not face to face, people think they can say whatever they want. However they want. No matter how angry it is.
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I am not sure if people are angrier these days, but being able to post in forums, from a computer, not face to face, people think they can say whatever they want. However they want. No matter how angry it is. Hmmm... good point. I wonder if the Internet has led to people being angrier? Still, seems I see more people in public expressing their anger than in former years...not just online. |
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I think most Americans are angry, and it is because of the media. Hear me out. You know, twenty years ago, we didn't have to be "in the loop" on everything. But nowadays, we know things that happen in some small town in North Dakota within like five minutes. We get tons of information from media sources, and, people being sheep like they are, they follow that information to a "T". FOX News, CNN, MSNBC, your local news networks, the Internet, tabloids and newspapers all want us to have the info. Why? Because now, all of sudden, we want to know. We used to not care, but now we want to know. Could be info on the stock market, or the war depressing us, or anything. Doesn't matter. We get so much information that we don't know what to do with it. And because of this, I feel that people become angry. They need an outlet.
For example. Why should I care about a vote that happens in Maine? Recently, the population of Maine decided to vote against gay marriage. Ok. I live in Florida. Why the hell do I care about what the citizens of the state of Maine vote on? Because the media wants me to. Do you know how public that vote got? People for and against it were just going off on that vote. And, these people did not live in that state. If they had voted for it, how will it effect me in Florida? The only way it can is if my state votes for gay marriage. My point is this. There was so much info about that vote that people knew about nationwide. And it caused cheers for some people, and anger for others. Twenty years ago, this never would have been an issue. We would have seen it in the paper, or heard a small soundbite about it on the news. That's all. People would have seen that and would have either said "That sucks" or "Go conservatives", and then continued on with there day. But not today. Today we have to know these things because we now feel we are entitled to. Anyways.....Goof is done. Rant complete. 
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Goof makes a valid point...seems there is more to get angry over. We are fed constant information, every crime, every time a child goes missing, every little detail of this fricking war.. as a child we watched footage from Vietnam weeks after it happened. Our children can get on the computer and actually watch someone getting blown up...and we all sit in wonder and ask what is wrong with this generation, they have no respect for anything.
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I am not sure if people are angrier these days, but being able to post in forums, from a computer, not face to face, people think they can say whatever they want. However they want. No matter how angry it is. Hmmm... good point. I wonder if the Internet has led to people being angrier? Still, seems I see more people in public expressing their anger than in former years...not just online. I don't see people in public expressing anger nearly as much as online. Not to say it doesn't happen. But just not as much. |
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Are Americans angrier today than in the past? Or do we simply have fewer inhibitions about acting out in public and no longer let anger seethe beneath the surface? Some say increasing narcissism today makes us upset when we don't get what we want...really? Three related questions...take your pick or opine on all three... My two cents... Yes, on all three. Through the generations, philosophies have changed. Many, many moons ago your value as a person was judged by the contribution you made to your community. Capitalism by definition inspires people to work for profit, not substinence. This leads to the concept of greed. The philosophy changed from doing what's best for the village to doing what's best for the clan, or extended family. Then it was the nuclear family...mom, dad, and kids. Your value as a man was in how well you supported your wife and kids. My grandparents and parents generation were like this. Somewhere along the way, the goal for a person became self sufficiency, which is how I was raised. In the past 40 years, the nuclear family has for the most part been eliminated and we're taught in schools, thru the media, and from the time we're born to work hard to be all YOU (singular) can be. ("An army of one"...is that really the new motto?) What happened to "All for one and one for all", "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country?", and other similar sayings. Ask most kids what success is and they say wealth. It's portrayed everywhere, espcially with the technological advances, the more you get, the better you are. WTF happened? And yup, there's the anger. For me it's not about what I don't have, it's about not being able to do anything about the above decline of morality. The drive to individualism has also meant that you are but one voice in dissent, tough to be heard and even harder to make a difference. In the old days, you spoke as a village, a clan, a family, a couple even...more voices in unison, slowly being drowned out by the increasing masses that no longer care about what you have to say. The concept of "We, the people" seems to have perished and been replaced with a big fat "I". As in "I have the right to do what ever the hell I want and f-you if you don't like it!" In govt, in society, in the media. It's so disheartening. Of course, this opinion has an approximate value of about two cents! Take it for what it's worth. |
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Canadians are laid-back
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Hello
I wonder if anger is really symptomaic of something else. For thousands of years man lived in smaller communities where each member of that community had a sense of belonging. Even if that sense of belonging actually meant that one was a rebel to the community standards, it was still a place of being in community. The hectic and disjointed sense of alienation and the speed of social disintegration has, I believe, effected a sense of separateness in the psyche of 21st century man. Technology has flown ahead at such speed that todays development is already old news to that development. Man is alienated from his own place in his community and is left to flounder in his confusion. Perhaps the Brave New World of Aldous Huxley is already upon us. And we have no strategies to dealo with that. |
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Are Americans angrier today than in the past? Or do we simply have fewer inhibitions about acting out in public and no longer let anger seethe beneath the surface? Some say increasing narcissism today makes us upset when we don't get what we want...really? Three related questions...take your pick or opine on all three... My two cents... Yes, on all three. Through the generations, philosophies have changed. Many, many moons ago your value as a person was judged by the contribution you made to your community. Capitalism by definition inspires people to work for profit, not substinence. This leads to the concept of greed. The philosophy changed from doing what's best for the village to doing what's best for the clan, or extended family. Then it was the nuclear family...mom, dad, and kids. Your value as a man was in how well you supported your wife and kids. My grandparents and parents generation were like this. Somewhere along the way, the goal for a person became self sufficiency, which is how I was raised. In the past 40 years, the nuclear family has for the most part been eliminated and we're taught in schools, thru the media, and from the time we're born to work hard to be all YOU (singular) can be. ("An army of one"...is that really the new motto?) What happened to "All for one and one for all", "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country?", and other similar sayings. Ask most kids what success is and they say wealth. It's portrayed everywhere, espcially with the technological advances, the more you get, the better you are. WTF happened? And yup, there's the anger. For me it's not about what I don't have, it's about not being able to do anything about the above decline of morality. The drive to individualism has also meant that you are but one voice in dissent, tough to be heard and even harder to make a difference. In the old days, you spoke as a village, a clan, a family, a couple even...more voices in unison, slowly being drowned out by the increasing masses that no longer care about what you have to say. The concept of "We, the people" seems to have perished and been replaced with a big fat "I". As in "I have the right to do what ever the hell I want and f-you if you don't like it!" In govt, in society, in the media. It's so disheartening. Of course, this opinion has an approximate value of about two cents! Take it for what it's worth. Well said. |
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