I guess it is the pick and choose method of what applies huh?

The sniper should be executed,

Personally I don't want to spend my tax money to keep him alive in prison for the rest of his life where he is going to die anyway. I don't want to be the one contributing to his 'salary' of $120,000yr(that's how much it cost to keep one prisoner alive in prison) kill him...save me some money

again.. there is a difference vengance and lawful punishment in the interest of justice regardless of your opinion to the contrary..

we were never neandertals.. there were common ancestor between the two species but that was a divergent limb of evolution.. that's been rather well documented.. Neandertal man was wiped out by homo sapiens. We did not evolve from them..

by your logic, the legitimacy of any exercise of punishment under the law would be nullified by your religious agruement..

so lets just stop enforcing law en toto and let there be chaos.

If cost is your motivator and not vengeance then you are being hoodwinked....
FINANCIAL ASPECTS OF THE DEATH PENALTY

The cost of prosecuting a capital case is exceedingly high. Various state commissions, universities, and publications have undertaken studies to determine how the cost of prosecuting such cases and executing the convicted person compares to prosecuting a non-capital case and incarcerating the person for life. In fact capital cases are much more expensive and place a huge burden on the counties in which the cases are tried.

An Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission in January 2002 found that the total costs of the death penalty exceeded the complete costs of life without parole sentences by about 38%. This figure assumed that 20% of the death sentences were overturned and reduced to life. A Duke University study in 1993 found that the death penalty was costing North Carolina $2.16 million per execution over the costs of sentencing murderers to life imprisonment. The Dallas Morning News reported on March 8, 1992, that a death penalty case cost about three times as much as incarcerating someone in a single cell at the highest security for 40 years. It goes on.

Dartmouth College economist Katherine Baicker studied county budgets for 14 years. Her statistical analysis published in 2001 showed that counties that brought a death penalty case had a tax rate 1.6% higher than others. Those same counties spent 3.3% less on law enforcement and highways.

In fact, Jasper County, Texas, spent more than $1.02 million bringing death penalty cases against the three men accused of the 1998 murder of James Byrd Jr. (the dragging death). Subsequently, the county was forced to raise property taxes 6.7% over two years. One defendant received a life sentence; the other two received the death penalty. The state of New Jersey has spent $253.3 million on its death penalty system since 1982 when the death penalty was reinstated. There have been 197 capital trials, 60 death penalty convictions of which 50 were reversed, and no executions.

Due to mandatory appeals required by the U.S. Supreme Court, a death row inmate will generally serve a minimum of 10 years at the Colorado State Penitentiary before execution. The average cost of incarcerating inmates at the Colorado State Penitentiary, including death row inmates, is $103.58 per day. The Colorado State Penitentiary is a Security Level V facility (maximum security) with a mission of incarcerating high-risk offenders. Due to heightened security requirements and increased staffing needs, the associated costs are higher than at a lower security facility.

Maybe we should go back to the days of posting wanted signs with giving the option of dead or alive. That would save alot of hassle and the cost implications.

Oh but any race of humans that would execute their own kind for any reason is less than a neandrathal.

There is no difference contrary to your belief, I posted the definition.

My logic has nothing to do with what I have been discussing with you.


I have been discussing with the you the Christian nonjustification for their death penalty.

My logic is that we should be too smart by now to even consider a death penalty as a legitimate form of punishment. I guess I can keep hopin and wishin for the brains to grow....

Time would be better spent trying to figure out why people are compelled to commit such egregious crimes.

And money.

So first you state (or at least agree with the statement) that laws ought not be based on biblical precedence and then you come at me with a biblical justification against capital punishment?

Does anyone else smell the hypocracy in this?

please.. pick which side of the fence you'd like to argue from.

The definition you copied and pasted from wherever (without citation, by the way) present several weaknesses inyour arguement.

First it does not incorporate justice, the moral foundation of all law. Vengance is not concerned with due process whereas Justice requires due process.

payment for criminality does not equate to retribution.

And Justice is not concerned with retribution.

Second it indicates that vengence is a style or type of punishment.

but just as all ducks are birds, though not all birds are ducks. Similarly though vengence is an exercise in punishment, not all punishments are exercises in vengence.

A parent does not punich a child out of a sense of vengence. The parent punishes the child out of the need to impress a sense of right and wrong.

I'm certain I'm not going to change your stance on this issue. You have something stuck in your head and that's that, as far as you're concerned. That's fine. Obstenence is your perogative

but you at least owe yourself the decency to operate with a modecum of intellectual honesty..

When you kill innocent people you should be killed by a court of law .

double post .

lets not forget that the dc sniper was a terrorist. he killed an FBI agent, at least one veteran, and several women among many others. he even shot a kid some one like that should be put to death to protect the rest of us. if he were put away for life he could escape and restart the rampage!

Considering he was found sitting in the car where the shots were fired along with the rifle they were using is there any question he was not the shooter?He should have been taken from the court room right to the execution chamber that day.It bothers me the tax payers had to pay so much money keeping this worthless exucse for a human alive for many years.As far as execution.He should be strung up on a pole and have the victims families drive by in cars shooting the same rifles he was shooting.I would also make sure the bullets were dipped in pigs blood.His bleeding heart lawyers saying he was innocent should also be strung up right next to him.

Huh.....legal evidence is a must in any case .
Thank goodness you are not making any laws .
This world saw many innocent people found guilty with crimes they never committed .

That's why i'd bring back the firing party, one gun can last 200+ years and for a decent bullet about $1.25....

Yeah right!Him and his brother just happened to slip into someones car in the middle of nowhere at a rest stop and decide it would be a great car to take a nap in.Throw out the fact he bought the rifle himself and that ballistics traced to that gun.Fingerprints all over the car,the hole in the trunk.Video of the car leaving crime scenes.Eye witness accounts.Their ties to Radical Islam.These guys couldn't have been more busted.And yes they did go to court and were found guilty by a trial.

As far as innocent people going to prison.It's a whole different world now.With DNA technology linking a person to a crime,the days of anyone but the killer going to prison is going to be a rarity.Lets not forget the good ol ACLU who works day and night to free convicted terrorist guilty or not.I think this worthless human had no less than 5 lawyers.

The world saw many fake police reports too .
Police are humans with bad ones and good ones .
Justice requires proof beyond reasonable doubt .
Spending money to reach justice and fairness is worth every penny of it . There are too many wastes in governments program but prosecuting a criminal is neither a waste nor ignorance of their part . Most governemnet advertising is just another waste of the taxpayers money ......etc.

He's been dead for about 7 minutes and I say good riddance!!! I have ZERO tolerance for criminals and do not feel any sympathy for them. If it were up to me, even taggers would be executed.

oh crap I missed it

I forgot to turn the TV on

How ironic ... Charles Manson still alive