Topic: Empty promises, When Money takes Wings and flies away!!!!
Kleisto's photo
Fri 10/16/09 06:38 PM



That sucks Txs and yes it's happened to me as well

Hell but I'm glad because for a measly $20.00 I found out the type of person she was, so of course I came out the winner. Money comes and goes but true friendship cannot be bought.


Ohhhh I hear you this is one that I called my best friend for over 20 years. There had been times he had no place to live I opened my home to him on more then one occasion. Till he was able to get back on his feet. noway

Sure if he pays me back I will still talk to him but..........will I stick my neck out for him again noway the door that was once opened to him it seems he has slammed it in my face.....frustrated


Sadly people like these always need help in one form or another. Thankfully I have mastered saying, No, sorry can't help you.

Because even if the amount is $1.00 to like 1956 said $15K, it was loaned out with the expectation of it being repaid.




Which then defeats the purpose of giving to start with, if you're gonna give with the idea that you will get back.

franshade's photo
Fri 10/16/09 06:39 PM




That sucks Txs and yes it's happened to me as well

Hell but I'm glad because for a measly $20.00 I found out the type of person she was, so of course I came out the winner. Money comes and goes but true friendship cannot be bought.


Ohhhh I hear you this is one that I called my best friend for over 20 years. There had been times he had no place to live I opened my home to him on more then one occasion. Till he was able to get back on his feet. noway

Sure if he pays me back I will still talk to him but..........will I stick my neck out for him again noway the door that was once opened to him it seems he has slammed it in my face.....frustrated


Sadly people like these always need help in one form or another. Thankfully I have mastered saying, No, sorry can't help you.

Because even if the amount is $1.00 to like 1956 said $15K, it was loaned out with the expectation of it being repaid.




Which then defeats the purpose of giving to start with, if you're gonna give with the idea that you will get back.


kleisto, where are you getting the idea that I or Txs gave away the money? the money was loaned, like you borrowing my pen, I expect it back same principle.


TxsGal3333's photo
Fri 10/16/09 06:39 PM

Ah dear girl, the quickest way to lose a friend is to loan them money. You could forget them and be glad that the amount of the loan is what it took to get rid of them. Or you could forgive the loan, that is if the friendship is more important. Or you could go to small claims court. The court thing sound harsh, but you already lost the friend. Of course you need plenty of evidence that it was a loan. If you ever want to help someone in the future, be sure you start out thinking it's a gift, that way you don't lose the friend if you don't get paid back. Good luck girl.


I'm one that would help anyone out that needs it. But I'm also one that once you break that trust you will never regain it back to what it once was.

As far as the court issues I do know the law as far as that goes but not worth it for it would just go as a judgment against him and not worth the court cost.

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Fri 10/16/09 06:41 PM





That sucks Txs and yes it's happened to me as well

Hell but I'm glad because for a measly $20.00 I found out the type of person she was, so of course I came out the winner. Money comes and goes but true friendship cannot be bought.


Ohhhh I hear you this is one that I called my best friend for over 20 years. There had been times he had no place to live I opened my home to him on more then one occasion. Till he was able to get back on his feet. noway

Sure if he pays me back I will still talk to him but..........will I stick my neck out for him again noway the door that was once opened to him it seems he has slammed it in my face.....frustrated


Sadly people like these always need help in one form or another. Thankfully I have mastered saying, No, sorry can't help you.

Because even if the amount is $1.00 to like 1956 said $15K, it was loaned out with the expectation of it being repaid.




Which then defeats the purpose of giving to start with, if you're gonna give with the idea that you will get back.


kleisto, where are you getting the idea that I or Txs gave away the money? the money was loaned, like you borrowing my pen, I expect it back same principle.




Exactly! Where is he getting that from? laugh

I even wrote "Loan" clearly on the check I wrote for $15K laugh

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Fri 10/16/09 06:43 PM
Yeah court costs are a bummer, maybe you could come out on TV on one of those judge _____ shows.

Kleisto's photo
Fri 10/16/09 06:43 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Fri 10/16/09 06:43 PM





That sucks Txs and yes it's happened to me as well

Hell but I'm glad because for a measly $20.00 I found out the type of person she was, so of course I came out the winner. Money comes and goes but true friendship cannot be bought.


Ohhhh I hear you this is one that I called my best friend for over 20 years. There had been times he had no place to live I opened my home to him on more then one occasion. Till he was able to get back on his feet. noway

Sure if he pays me back I will still talk to him but..........will I stick my neck out for him again noway the door that was once opened to him it seems he has slammed it in my face.....frustrated


Sadly people like these always need help in one form or another. Thankfully I have mastered saying, No, sorry can't help you.

Because even if the amount is $1.00 to like 1956 said $15K, it was loaned out with the expectation of it being repaid.




Which then defeats the purpose of giving to start with, if you're gonna give with the idea that you will get back.



kleisto, where are you getting the idea that I or Txs gave away the money? the money was loaned, like you borrowing my pen, I expect it back same principle.




A pen is different then cash though, the pen is being used and then returned, it's slightly different with cash at least to me.

franshade's photo
Fri 10/16/09 06:44 PM

A pen is different then cash though, the pen is being used and then returned, it's slightly different with cash at least to me.


so you get the concept I loaned you my pen and you returned it, why not return the money :laughing:


where have you been? you havent been in the forums, hope all is well. flowerforyou

Kleisto's photo
Fri 10/16/09 06:45 PM
Edited by Kleisto on Fri 10/16/09 06:45 PM


A pen is different then cash though, the pen is being used and then returned, it's slightly different with cash at least to me.


so you get the concept I loaned you my pen and you returned it, why not return the money :laughing:


where have you been? you havent been in the forums, hope all is well. flowerforyou


I just see it different with money really, a pen is not expendable in the way money can be.

As for me, I've just been lurking around, doing alright I guess.

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Fri 10/16/09 06:46 PM
It's the spirit of the transaction. Sometimes you give someone something, but when they come to you for help, most don't say, "Can you just give me money." If you discuss the terms then I think it's ok to expect repayment.

Kleisto's photo
Fri 10/16/09 06:50 PM

It's the spirit of the transaction. Sometimes you give someone something, but when they come to you for help, most don't say, "Can you just give me money." If you discuss the terms then I think it's ok to expect repayment.


I suppose just don't really agree with the mentality of giving or loaning money with the anticipation of it being given back.

TxsGal3333's photo
Fri 10/16/09 06:50 PM

Bummer. :cry:

I know it's hard to know what to do when people really need money. I loaned somebody $15,000 they really needed.....still haven't seen a dime and it's been 5 years now. ohwell


Ouch that would hurt big time..... Heck mine was mere pocket change compared to that. But it really is sad when family or friends takes your trust and kindness and twist what all was good and make things turn out so ugly......

Myself I have never borrowed money and not paid it back. And if I was going to be a few days late from what I told them I called them to let them know.

Very seldom will I ask anyone for anything....noway

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Fri 10/16/09 06:55 PM


It's the spirit of the transaction. Sometimes you give someone something, but when they come to you for help, most don't say, "Can you just give me money." If you discuss the terms then I think it's ok to expect repayment.


I suppose just don't really agree with the mentality of giving or loaning money with the anticipation of it being given back.

That's what I mean about the spirit of the thing. When you give money to the salvation army you don't expect anything back. Yet when someone comes to you for help, they are the ones promising to return the money. Your feelings about what their intentions are could be different.

PacificStar48's photo
Fri 10/16/09 07:00 PM
Pld saying..."A true friend would not a borrower be."

Since I know how my friends spend their money I don't see a need for bailing them out of financial woes. I put back money for emergencies so why can't others?

If it is and unusual situation I gift what I can do comfortably and they just have to get the rest somewhere else. People just naturally dislike the banker so it ruins friendships.

TxsGal3333's photo
Fri 10/16/09 07:02 PM


Bummer. :cry:

I know it's hard to know what to do when people really need money. I loaned somebody $15,000 they really needed.....still haven't seen a dime and it's been 5 years now. ohwell


You know though, giving something to someone with the expectation that you're going to get something back kinda defeats the purpose of giving doesn't it? If I give someone something, I do it out of the goodness of my heart, not with any expectations of getting paid back. If I do, that's great, but if not, no big deal.

But I suppose that's just me.


Well on the occasion that I did loan him the money it was 2 days before his payday. He had a court date and had to pay the money that day it could not wait. He has borrowed money in the past and always paid it back. He even knew I had to have it back and I took his word for it. I was raised to always keep your word when you give it.

As far as given money and not expecting it back with my kids I don't expect it back.

Will I do it againnoway

PacificStar48's photo
Fri 10/16/09 07:02 PM






That sucks Txs and yes it's happened to me as well

Hell but I'm glad because for a measly $20.00 I found out the type of person she was, so of course I came out the winner. Money comes and goes but true friendship cannot be bought.


Ohhhh I hear you this is one that I called my best friend for over 20 years. There had been times he had no place to live I opened my home to him on more then one occasion. Till he was able to get back on his feet. noway

Sure if he pays me back I will still talk to him but..........will I stick my neck out for him again noway the door that was once opened to him it seems he has slammed it in my face.....frustrated


Sadly people like these always need help in one form or another. Thankfully I have mastered saying, No, sorry can't help you.

Because even if the amount is $1.00 to like 1956 said $15K, it was loaned out with the expectation of it being repaid.




Which then defeats the purpose of giving to start with, if you're gonna give with the idea that you will get back.


kleisto, where are you getting the idea that I or Txs gave away the money? the money was loaned, like you borrowing my pen, I expect it back same principle.




Exactly! Where is he getting that from? laugh

I even wrote "Loan" clearly on the check I wrote for $15K laugh


Yea and that amount is more than small claims courts will help collect unless they changed it.

PacificStar48's photo
Fri 10/16/09 07:03 PM






That sucks Txs and yes it's happened to me as well

Hell but I'm glad because for a measly $20.00 I found out the type of person she was, so of course I came out the winner. Money comes and goes but true friendship cannot be bought.


Ohhhh I hear you this is one that I called my best friend for over 20 years. There had been times he had no place to live I opened my home to him on more then one occasion. Till he was able to get back on his feet. noway

Sure if he pays me back I will still talk to him but..........will I stick my neck out for him again noway the door that was once opened to him it seems he has slammed it in my face.....frustrated


Sadly people like these always need help in one form or another. Thankfully I have mastered saying, No, sorry can't help you.

Because even if the amount is $1.00 to like 1956 said $15K, it was loaned out with the expectation of it being repaid.




Which then defeats the purpose of giving to start with, if you're gonna give with the idea that you will get back.


kleisto, where are you getting the idea that I or Txs gave away the money? the money was loaned, like you borrowing my pen, I expect it back same principle.




Exactly! Where is he getting that from? laugh

I even wrote "Loan" clearly on the check I wrote for $15K laugh


Yea and that amount is more than small claims courts will help collect unless they changed it.

TxsGal3333's photo
Fri 10/16/09 07:07 PM
Edited by TxsGal3333 on Fri 10/16/09 07:51 PM

Hello :smile:

Been there done that. Some people don't realize what there actually doing when they do this. I just wonder how some can live with themselvs. So today, i just done give out what i can't afford to lose.

Hope everything else is ok


Well from now on when I give out money it will be to my kids at least with them I don't expect it back lmao :laughing: :laughing:


Mike I'm doing great hope you and little man is doing great as well...:thumbsup:

But as far as the money I have wrote it off just amazes me that a persons word no longer means anything today.bigsmile

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Fri 10/16/09 07:11 PM
Oh don't give up TxsGal, it was one person. Some people still stand by thier word, and as long as some still do it's not dead.

TxsGal3333's photo
Fri 10/16/09 07:15 PM

Kristi, I am so sorry that happend to you!..


You know, I have had two incidents happen to me like that.

Me being the dummy and softy I am, one of my relatives barrowed a large sum of money from me and I just knew they would pay me back, did I ever see the money, NO. She had the never to tell me she would rather owe it to me the rest of her life then rather beat me out of it.slaphead


Not learning from THAT!..Here I go again.slaphead A "SO CALLED FRIEND" needed a something. I told that person I would LOAN him the money to get it. Well It was to be paid back in 3 payments. Every other week. Well one excuse right after the other and have I seen one RED cent of that yet? NOPE!..Do you think I ever will? NOPE!!..I tried talking to my friend and kept saying, Oh, I havn't forgetten, I'll pay you back..But, never nothing. Now I have just given up. I know I won't ever see it so this person is NO LONGER my FRIEND.

What a sad way to end a FRIENDSHIP!!!..Relatives you can't end..Friendships it hurts!!..tears


Double Ouch well I have never loaned family members money but then they have never asked me too. I know if I ever really needed it my brother or sister either one would give it to me without blinking and eye. Why cause they know my word is good. But I have never asked them too nor ever plan on it.

Have I borrowed money before from a friend sure I have and I paid it all back just like I said I would. Did not want to borrow it at the time I'm one that if I can not afford something then I will wait till I have the money.


PacificStar48's photo
Fri 10/16/09 07:17 PM
Some people a handshake is as good as a written contract but now days it is better to just get it in writing. Sad but it is true.