the op and i gave examples of the ACTIONS that we take to support the troops. there are many, many more. look people. if you go to one of these sites and come away with ideas as to how to act in support of the troops then you will find a way to make their lives better. my initial comment was directed at the op's final comment as he began this thread. "sign the pledge". do that and leave it at that and you've supported nobody. it's way too easy to feel good about supporting the troops without acutally lifting a finger to do so.

precisely my point. thousands of american sign a pledge and go no farther. now their feeling good and never made an effort outside of typing their name.

Wow you sound so bitter, I'd rather have someone who wanted to donate their money or time to do so at their discretion. Those who just want to say thank you can feel free to do so by signing pledge, saying thank you, for those who pray saying a prayer, why is that not considered as support to you?

Instead of responding the way you have, why not just offer other suggestions to people, rather than making it sound like they're doing something wrong if they aren't doing the same actions to support the troops as you have?

Isn't volunteering time and money something that a person should choose to do? Rather than doing so because someone tells them they should?

as my first post here did not mention what i do i could not have been telling anybody they were wrong because they aren't doing the same as i do. but look at what my response has generated. the discussion has swung from "sign the pledge" to a discussion that entails not only is simply signing the pledge a show of support but others and not just me offering real ideas for providing real support for our troops. this is not my first time to this rodeo. i've been touting "real support" for our troops for decades.



indeed. did you sign the pledge? if so why? because you opened this thread and the op TOLD you to "sign the pledge"? i would never tell you what you SHOULD do. i simply point out what i see that is and is not effective in supporting the troops.

WOW
This blows my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't mean to TELL people sign the pledge. I can only tell my kids to do things.

I don't understand how a site that some good can come out of viewing could turn into a debate

I in no way am forcing anyone to do anything.

I mearly wanted to get the site out there for those interested in it.

Most of these site don't pay for advertising so the only way info gets out is by word of mouth.

I apologize if I offended you. next time I will post a disclaimer with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow you sound so bitter, I'd rather have someone who wanted to donate their money or time to do so at their discretion. Those who just want to say thank you can feel free to do so by signing pledge, saying thank you, for those who pray saying a prayer, why is that not considered as support to you?

as my first post here did not mention what i do i could not have been telling anybody they were wrong because they aren't doing the same as i do. but look at what my response has generated. the discussion has swung from "sign the pledge" to a discussion that entails others and not just me offering real ideas for providing real support for our troops. this is not my first time to this rodeo. i've been touting "real support" for our troops for decades.



indeed. did you sign the pledge? if so why? because you opened this thread and the op TOLD you to "sign the pledge"? i would never tell you what you SHOULD do as the op did. i simply point out what i see that is and is not effective in supporting the troops.

WOW
This blows my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't mean to TELL people sign the pledge. I can only tell my kids to do things.

firstly i'm not in the least bitter. because i don't see things as you do neither makes me bitter nor illinformed.


you mention prayer and that's an excellent annalogy. as an agnostic i never pray simply because it accomplishes nothing. but i do volunteer my time at the local va clinic here. in doing that i do accomplish something. why are so many here so up in arms about my opinion that a pledge is not support in and of itself? have i offended the troops? or have i taken away your feel good pill and ask that you make a real effort in time or money?

firstly i'm not in the least bitter. because i don't see things as you do neither makes me bitter nor illinformed.


you mention prayer and that's an excellent annalogy. as an agnostic i never pray simply because it accomplishes nothing. but i do volunteer my time at the local va clinic here. in doing that i do accomplish something. why are so many here so up in arms about my opinion that a pledge is not support in and of itself? have i offended the troops? or have i taken away your feel good pill and ask that you make a real effort in time or money?

this is all your fault TJ - now you've went and done it, Imma hafta get the yellow duct tape and punish you

get 'im fran


TJ, TJ, TJ, what are we to do with you?

Anywho, thanks for posting that so that some of us can show our respect to our brave men and women who are in harms way.

Whether it's a pledge of thousands of signatures, money, letters, gifts, it doesn't matter, I know they will appreciate it all. Unlike some.

But what if some don't have the time or money.
When I was overseas we recieved letters and got videos of people just thanking us. That means just as much to us as monetary donations and time being voulenteered.

fine...you guys gimme a gun and I'll help them....warning though, I don't take orders well