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She is not "hated" and she isn't demonized for being a conservative. She is been criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence. You say she has been "criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence." Based on what? Based on quite a bit of what she has said in the past. Would you mind being specific? This is your chance to convince us she's stupid... But, I can say the same about obama being a racist too. It's well documented through out the world wide webz.  Her quotes can be found all over the place. I'm sure you can google and find many, many to read. |
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Holy Crap!!! All of you make me laugh...LOL! This is the reason that people love Palin sooo much. You Libs get sand in your panties everytime she comes out into the public. If Palin was this and that or all of those stories that Dems love to float around,then you guys wouldn't even bother. It must kill all of you that she is more accomplish then (unfortunately) our current president and that she should be an advocate for all women. The only reason that she is hated soo much by the Dems/Libs is for 1 reason alone....She's a conservative. If she were let's say a Dem she would have been protected by the media, honored by every women's group and look at as a potential nominee for office. Book sales will rocket but, I wonder if it will get any attention thru the media other than negative... She is not "hated" and she isn't demonized for being a conservative. She is been criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence. And I would be the last person on this Earth to ever be either belong to a liberal/ democrat or any sort of groups that lead by some sort of a group mentality in almost like a religious sect. I just follow common sense, which is actually not so common nowadays. WOW..you believe that stuff that you just wrote? Really she is the most "Demonized" person in politics today or even ever. I'm not saying that she hasn't said some stupid crap but all of them do. And when the media only points out her flaws and somehow forgets to point out Mr.Biden telling a crippled person to stand up in a townhall meeting isn't considered to be demonizing? Just asking... |
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I doubt anything I'm going to show you is going to change your mind. However, you can watch her interview with Katie Couric if you'd like. In my opinion, it does not show her as being vice president material. Seen it. I think it shows someone who felt she was being put into a corner with unfair interviewing tactics. Was Obama asked what magazines and newspapers he reads? I think relying on a single interview as an impression that someone is stupid seems a bit ungainly. Obama is ten months into his presidency and shows absolutely no understanding of how economics work from a Keysian or Austrian school and I don't call him stupid. That's 10 months of evidence. I call him crooked and question his motives, but I wouldn't call him stupid. Even though he is the first president who has refused to release his college grades...just saying... The difference is that Obama would have handled it with far more grace, instead Palin had to act like the poor little martyred victim. Oh they were so mean to me. Why not just say I prefer not to answer the damn question. I might have had more respect for her than the lame a$$ answers she gave. She was answered very direct and simple questions and couldn't answer them, period. She had many interviews, not just that one, she also said many many things on the campaign trail. Do you assume liberals didn't watch all the campaigns? Or all the interviews. Your being asked to google, we already know what she has said. You already know our opinion of her, so why bait us, just go do your own research. Please don't pretend you aren't calling Obama stupid because you are not using the specific word. You don't like Obama, we don't like Palin, not biggy, it's to be expected. And who the heck are you to call anyone dishonest when you obviously are not aware of all the things she has said. I don't think she's stupid at all, I do however think the way she handled herself was pretty lame, and I do think she's a manipulative fundementalist right winger, who learned pretty quickly that you can say almost anything you want, lie or not and make more money spewing BS than actually sticking to a job. |
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I agree. I'm cracking up reading this thread. I thought Palin was a breath of fresh air. So much for the left supporting women. ;) Im a black woman, I did not feel obligated to support Sharpton when he run, nor did I feel obligated to support Palin's irrelevant winks which came off , to me at least, as very condescending. I find it kind of insulting that in this day and age people are expected to support someone else because of superficial things like gender or race or political association instead of supporting who is the best candidate. Yes, the best candidate. And between the choices that we were presented (not good ones from either side) we need to look at the most qualified and that was the McCain/Palin ticket. As I do agree that we shouldn't just go with a person bc of religion,sex or political assocation bc that is why we are were we are today. Until we can get over that it will continue to be the same, day in and day out. The never ending cycle :( I appreciate that. I dont agree with the implication that obama is elected for being black though, nor that Mccain Palin was a better ticket. I felt OBama and BIden were better candidates. OBama being healthy and young and a fighter. I found him to have relevant understanding and logic about politics , both national and global. His answers seemed to come from his own brain and not something someone fed him. He seemed to have had RECENT and relevant accomplishments and genuine understanding of how the middle class in this country are living. Biden, although very outspoken, seemed to be equally current and relevant and able to Handle himself. I liked Mccaiin as a person but all I saw him run on was his ANCIENT history as a military man. I did not see an understanding by him of any current national issues not involving the military. I also was concerned that with his health, the VP candidate could be very likely to lead the country and when i Heard SARAH speaking,,,initially great. After her initial introduction at the nationals though (with a speech others wrote,,but she delivered brilliantly),,everything fell apart for me. SHe did not seem to truly know what was going on outside of Alaska. She didnt seem to handle herself very well without being handled. She seemed another potential my way or the highway bully like Bush and possibly equaly as vapid. And when she appeared for interview with Mccain speaking for her,,it sealed the already evaporating deal for me. I definitely, like many people I believe, chose the better candidates. I never said that obama was elected solely bc of his color or even implied that either. Maybe, that one wasn't directed to me :) But, as for everything else, I'm sorry but I must disagree...to a point. Obama hasn't done anything yet and yes I realize that he hasn't been there long but like Mr.Biden said we don't have the time to teach as we go (not exact words but, I'm sure that you remember) The only thing that obama has done as of today is reverse many of his own discisions,get involved in matters that had nothing to do with him, do as much over exposure of himself as possible and lean very,very hard left with his dealings with congress. As for Palin you have to blame McCain himself for that one. He and his campaign people never gave her a chance and kept the kid gloves on her way too long. I saw some of those interviews as well and didn't feel like they went great whatsoever but, at the same time I give her a ton of credit for dealing with the abuse that she recieve without snapping. Anybody else in their right mind would have quit a long time ago. And to make fun of McCain and his "Ancient ways" is laughable considering that Biden has more time than McCain himself. Just bc, Biden took the train to work made him an everyday guy...lol. He'd probably get lost if he drove on his own to work ;) And finally, obama being the everyday guy that know sthe middle class is not correct considering that he was and some say that he still is the commmunity oraganzer that served the poor and NOT the middle class in a minority neighborhood. So, how doe sthat make him able to understand people everywhere? How is working in poor hoods help him with the middleclass that happens to employ many of those people? What make him understand foreign policy so well when he was in Cji town most of his time serving. Oh the thing about McCain dying is funny bc that really holds no water when Biden has more medical issues...just saying :) I can agree to disagree. I am sorry if I misunderstood your statement about us being where we are because of peoples superficial allegiences and thinking you were talking about OBamas race. AS for Mccain, I was not at all laughing at his health or his service. I commend him for his service, but going on what he SHOWED and SAID in his campaign, he didnt show me any reason to vote for him. I think OBama served several years helping people in CHicago but I dont think that is all he did at all. We can google websites for both Obama and Palin to find their accomplishments, I am sure they both have plenty in specific areas and it depends upon which areas the voter puts significance on. My statement about MCCains health referred to my concern for a possible Palin as president and the fact that, whatever the reason, I wasnt SHOWN nor did I hear any reason to feel confident about her abilities during their campaign. See, this is where I can spin this and say "but MsHarmony, if obama is the least qualified between himself and Biden why would it make sense to vote for obama then?" You are literally telling me that you voted for a vice president instead of voting for a president.This is why we (being the U.S) is in the **** hole that we are currently in bc, everyone voted for the least qualified man. I rather roll the dice with McCain the more qualified person than a rookie that has zero experience in politics to begin with... |
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I doubt anything I'm going to show you is going to change your mind. However, you can watch her interview with Katie Couric if you'd like. In my opinion, it does not show her as being vice president material. Seen it. I think it shows someone who felt she was being put into a corner with unfair interviewing tactics. Was Obama asked what magazines and newspapers he reads? I think relying on a single interview as an impression that someone is stupid seems a bit ungainly. Obama is ten months into his presidency and shows absolutely no understanding of how economics work from a Keysian or Austrian school and I don't call him stupid. That's 10 months of evidence. I call him crooked and question his motives, but I wouldn't call him stupid. Even though he is the first president who has refused to release his college grades...just saying... The difference is that Obama would have handled it with far more grace, instead Palin had to act like the poor little martyred victim. Oh they were so mean to me. Why not just say I prefer not to answer the damn question. I might have had more respect for her than the lame a$$ answers she gave. She was answered very direct and simple questions and couldn't answer them, period. She had many interviews, not just that one, she also said many many things on the campaign trail. Do you assume liberals didn't watch all the campaigns? Or all the interviews. Your being asked to google, we already know what she has said. You already know our opinion of her, so why bait us, just go do your own research. Please don't pretend you aren't calling Obama stupid because you are not using the specific word. You don't like Obama, we don't like Palin, not biggy, it's to be expected. And who the heck are you to call anyone dishonest when you obviously are not aware of all the things she has said. I don't think she's stupid at all, I do however think the way she handled herself was pretty lame, and I do think she's a manipulative fundementalist right winger, who learned pretty quickly that you can say almost anything you want, lie or not and make more money spewing BS than actually sticking to a job. Really, I respect your P.O.V on everything but, since we are speaking "honest" (tongue and cheek) I'd say that even you must admit that Palin got trashed badly through out this campaign and that there was never any reason in the world to bring her children into it either. And you have to also admit that she was held back by the McCain people sooo much that people started to think that she had no creditablity bc of the McCain camp. That's who I actually blame and not so much the liberal media. McCain basically spoon fed them by refusing to let her go. And being fair here...as I have mention in other posts that she didn't answer the most direct of question wisely.And it did make her look like a fool whether if it was edited or not there was no excuses for answering some question the way that she did. |
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I agree. I'm cracking up reading this thread. I thought Palin was a breath of fresh air. So much for the left supporting women. ;) Im a black woman, I did not feel obligated to support Sharpton when he run, nor did I feel obligated to support Palin's irrelevant winks which came off , to me at least, as very condescending. I find it kind of insulting that in this day and age people are expected to support someone else because of superficial things like gender or race or political association instead of supporting who is the best candidate. Yes, the best candidate. And between the choices that we were presented (not good ones from either side) we need to look at the most qualified and that was the McCain/Palin ticket. As I do agree that we shouldn't just go with a person bc of religion,sex or political assocation bc that is why we are were we are today. Until we can get over that it will continue to be the same, day in and day out. The never ending cycle :( I appreciate that. I dont agree with the implication that obama is elected for being black though, nor that Mccain Palin was a better ticket. I felt OBama and BIden were better candidates. OBama being healthy and young and a fighter. I found him to have relevant understanding and logic about politics , both national and global. His answers seemed to come from his own brain and not something someone fed him. He seemed to have had RECENT and relevant accomplishments and genuine understanding of how the middle class in this country are living. Biden, although very outspoken, seemed to be equally current and relevant and able to Handle himself. I liked Mccaiin as a person but all I saw him run on was his ANCIENT history as a military man. I did not see an understanding by him of any current national issues not involving the military. I also was concerned that with his health, the VP candidate could be very likely to lead the country and when i Heard SARAH speaking,,,initially great. After her initial introduction at the nationals though (with a speech others wrote,,but she delivered brilliantly),,everything fell apart for me. SHe did not seem to truly know what was going on outside of Alaska. She didnt seem to handle herself very well without being handled. She seemed another potential my way or the highway bully like Bush and possibly equaly as vapid. And when she appeared for interview with Mccain speaking for her,,it sealed the already evaporating deal for me. I definitely, like many people I believe, chose the better candidates. I never said that obama was elected solely bc of his color or even implied that either. Maybe, that one wasn't directed to me :) But, as for everything else, I'm sorry but I must disagree...to a point. Obama hasn't done anything yet and yes I realize that he hasn't been there long but like Mr.Biden said we don't have the time to teach as we go (not exact words but, I'm sure that you remember) The only thing that obama has done as of today is reverse many of his own discisions,get involved in matters that had nothing to do with him, do as much over exposure of himself as possible and lean very,very hard left with his dealings with congress. As for Palin you have to blame McCain himself for that one. He and his campaign people never gave her a chance and kept the kid gloves on her way too long. I saw some of those interviews as well and didn't feel like they went great whatsoever but, at the same time I give her a ton of credit for dealing with the abuse that she recieve without snapping. Anybody else in their right mind would have quit a long time ago. And to make fun of McCain and his "Ancient ways" is laughable considering that Biden has more time than McCain himself. Just bc, Biden took the train to work made him an everyday guy...lol. He'd probably get lost if he drove on his own to work ;) And finally, obama being the everyday guy that know sthe middle class is not correct considering that he was and some say that he still is the commmunity oraganzer that served the poor and NOT the middle class in a minority neighborhood. So, how doe sthat make him able to understand people everywhere? How is working in poor hoods help him with the middleclass that happens to employ many of those people? What make him understand foreign policy so well when he was in Cji town most of his time serving. Oh the thing about McCain dying is funny bc that really holds no water when Biden has more medical issues...just saying :) I can agree to disagree. I am sorry if I misunderstood your statement about us being where we are because of peoples superficial allegiences and thinking you were talking about OBamas race. AS for Mccain, I was not at all laughing at his health or his service. I commend him for his service, but going on what he SHOWED and SAID in his campaign, he didnt show me any reason to vote for him. I think OBama served several years helping people in CHicago but I dont think that is all he did at all. We can google websites for both Obama and Palin to find their accomplishments, I am sure they both have plenty in specific areas and it depends upon which areas the voter puts significance on. My statement about MCCains health referred to my concern for a possible Palin as president and the fact that, whatever the reason, I wasnt SHOWN nor did I hear any reason to feel confident about her abilities during their campaign. See, this is where I can spin this and say "but MsHarmony, if obama is the least qualified between himself and Biden why would it make sense to vote for obama then?" You are literally telling me that you voted for a vice president instead of voting for a president.This is why we (being the U.S) is in the **** hole that we are currently in bc, everyone voted for the least qualified man. I rather roll the dice with McCain the more qualified person than a rookie that has zero experience in politics to begin with... I used to have some respect for McCain years ago, but whether you like it or you don't, I voted for Obama because I found him level headed and intelligent, and he didn't engage in the childishness divisiveness that the McCain campaign engaged in. And for other reasons as well. |
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I didn't say I relied on on interview to base my thoughts on her, but thanks for calling me stupid.  I gave you an example. There are many others out there for you to find, read and watch. People like you really bother me. If I had called you stupid, it would be one thing, but to accuse me of a bannable offense, which I didn't commit is simply beyond the pale. I would ask you to apologize, but experience tells me that you would simply insist that I had called you stupid and you would refuse to see your mistake. I don't think you are stupid, but I think you are dishonest. And that is a far worse thing to be, since nobody chooses to be stupid and it takes requires an active decision to be dishonest. I guess I missed where you called anyone stupid. I've seen other name calling in here...but I missed this one |
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I agree. I'm cracking up reading this thread. I thought Palin was a breath of fresh air. So much for the left supporting women. ;) Im a black woman, I did not feel obligated to support Sharpton when he run, nor did I feel obligated to support Palin's irrelevant winks which came off , to me at least, as very condescending. I find it kind of insulting that in this day and age people are expected to support someone else because of superficial things like gender or race or political association instead of supporting who is the best candidate. Yes, the best candidate. And between the choices that we were presented (not good ones from either side) we need to look at the most qualified and that was the McCain/Palin ticket. As I do agree that we shouldn't just go with a person bc of religion,sex or political assocation bc that is why we are were we are today. Until we can get over that it will continue to be the same, day in and day out. The never ending cycle :( I appreciate that. I dont agree with the implication that obama is elected for being black though, nor that Mccain Palin was a better ticket. I felt OBama and BIden were better candidates. OBama being healthy and young and a fighter. I found him to have relevant understanding and logic about politics , both national and global. His answers seemed to come from his own brain and not something someone fed him. He seemed to have had RECENT and relevant accomplishments and genuine understanding of how the middle class in this country are living. Biden, although very outspoken, seemed to be equally current and relevant and able to Handle himself. I liked Mccaiin as a person but all I saw him run on was his ANCIENT history as a military man. I did not see an understanding by him of any current national issues not involving the military. I also was concerned that with his health, the VP candidate could be very likely to lead the country and when i Heard SARAH speaking,,,initially great. After her initial introduction at the nationals though (with a speech others wrote,,but she delivered brilliantly),,everything fell apart for me. SHe did not seem to truly know what was going on outside of Alaska. She didnt seem to handle herself very well without being handled. She seemed another potential my way or the highway bully like Bush and possibly equaly as vapid. And when she appeared for interview with Mccain speaking for her,,it sealed the already evaporating deal for me. I definitely, like many people I believe, chose the better candidates. I never said that obama was elected solely bc of his color or even implied that either. Maybe, that one wasn't directed to me :) But, as for everything else, I'm sorry but I must disagree...to a point. Obama hasn't done anything yet and yes I realize that he hasn't been there long but like Mr.Biden said we don't have the time to teach as we go (not exact words but, I'm sure that you remember) The only thing that obama has done as of today is reverse many of his own discisions,get involved in matters that had nothing to do with him, do as much over exposure of himself as possible and lean very,very hard left with his dealings with congress. As for Palin you have to blame McCain himself for that one. He and his campaign people never gave her a chance and kept the kid gloves on her way too long. I saw some of those interviews as well and didn't feel like they went great whatsoever but, at the same time I give her a ton of credit for dealing with the abuse that she recieve without snapping. Anybody else in their right mind would have quit a long time ago. And to make fun of McCain and his "Ancient ways" is laughable considering that Biden has more time than McCain himself. Just bc, Biden took the train to work made him an everyday guy...lol. He'd probably get lost if he drove on his own to work ;) And finally, obama being the everyday guy that know sthe middle class is not correct considering that he was and some say that he still is the commmunity oraganzer that served the poor and NOT the middle class in a minority neighborhood. So, how doe sthat make him able to understand people everywhere? How is working in poor hoods help him with the middleclass that happens to employ many of those people? What make him understand foreign policy so well when he was in Cji town most of his time serving. Oh the thing about McCain dying is funny bc that really holds no water when Biden has more medical issues...just saying :) I can agree to disagree. I am sorry if I misunderstood your statement about us being where we are because of peoples superficial allegiences and thinking you were talking about OBamas race. AS for Mccain, I was not at all laughing at his health or his service. I commend him for his service, but going on what he SHOWED and SAID in his campaign, he didnt show me any reason to vote for him. I think OBama served several years helping people in CHicago but I dont think that is all he did at all. We can google websites for both Obama and Palin to find their accomplishments, I am sure they both have plenty in specific areas and it depends upon which areas the voter puts significance on. My statement about MCCains health referred to my concern for a possible Palin as president and the fact that, whatever the reason, I wasnt SHOWN nor did I hear any reason to feel confident about her abilities during their campaign. See, this is where I can spin this and say "but MsHarmony, if obama is the least qualified between himself and Biden why would it make sense to vote for obama then?" You are literally telling me that you voted for a vice president instead of voting for a president.This is why we (being the U.S) is in the **** hole that we are currently in bc, everyone voted for the least qualified man. I rather roll the dice with McCain the more qualified person than a rookie that has zero experience in politics to begin with... I used to have some respect for McCain years ago, but whether you like it or you don't, I voted for Obama because I found him level headed and intelligent, and he didn't engage in the childishness divisiveness that the McCain campaign engaged in. And for other reasons as well. I look at it this way. We were gonna get screw no matter what so, we had to pick the vice that hurt the least ;) Also, I do find obama a very intelligent man but, when you see everyone giving him a past on so much you almost have to root for the underdog. The only time that I even remembered him getting bashed some was against Hillary and that didn't even last that long. |
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I didn't say I relied on on interview to base my thoughts on her, but thanks for calling me stupid. I gave you an example. There are many others out there for you to find, read and watch. People like you really bother me. If I had called you stupid, it would be one thing, but to accuse me of a bannable offense, which I didn't commit is simply beyond the pale. I would ask you to apologize, but experience tells me that you would simply insist that I had called you stupid and you would refuse to see your mistake. I don't think you are stupid, but I think you are dishonest. And that is a far worse thing to be, since nobody chooses to be stupid and it takes requires an active decision to be dishonest. I guess I missed where you called anyone stupid. I've seen other name calling in here...but I missed this one You also must have missed where I've already apologized for reading something the wrong way. 
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Anybody help me out by figuring out how to quote just a piece instead of the whole story line?
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I didn't say I relied on on interview to base my thoughts on her, but thanks for calling me stupid. I gave you an example. There are many others out there for you to find, read and watch. People like you really bother me. If I had called you stupid, it would be one thing, but to accuse me of a bannable offense, which I didn't commit is simply beyond the pale. I would ask you to apologize, but experience tells me that you would simply insist that I had called you stupid and you would refuse to see your mistake. I don't think you are stupid, but I think you are dishonest. And that is a far worse thing to be, since nobody chooses to be stupid and it takes requires an active decision to be dishonest. I guess I missed where you called anyone stupid. I've seen other name calling in here...but I missed this one You also must have missed where I've already apologized for reading something the wrong way. I saw that. I'm more referring to others chiming in |
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I look at it this way. We were gonna get screw no matter what so, we had to pick the vice that hurt the least ;) Also, I do find obama a very intelligent man but, when you see everyone giving him a past on so much you almost have to root for the underdog. The only time that I even remembered him getting bashed some was against Hillary and that didn't even last that long. People bash Obama here in the forms all the time. |
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I look at it this way. We were gonna get screw no matter what so, we had to pick the vice that hurt the least ;) Also, I do find obama a very intelligent man but, when you see everyone giving him a past on so much you almost have to root for the underdog. The only time that I even remembered him getting bashed some was against Hillary and that didn't even last that long. People bash Obama here in the forms all the time. Yes, true but that's the forums and not the media which is watched all over the world. He became president basically, for all the passes that he got. |
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I look at it this way. We were gonna get screw no matter what so, we had to pick the vice that hurt the least ;) Also, I do find obama a very intelligent man but, when you see everyone giving him a past on so much you almost have to root for the underdog. The only time that I even remembered him getting bashed some was against Hillary and that didn't even last that long. People bash Obama here in the forms all the time. people bash the other side all the time. it's not one side BTW...I have no problem with anything you have said in here. you have made it clear that you are giving your opinion and you aren't speaking for others or generalizing. whether I agree with you or not, I have no issues with your stance in here 
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I look at it this way. We were gonna get screw no matter what so, we had to pick the vice that hurt the least ;) Also, I do find obama a very intelligent man but, when you see everyone giving him a past on so much you almost have to root for the underdog. The only time that I even remembered him getting bashed some was against Hillary and that didn't even last that long. People bash Obama here in the forms all the time. people bash the other side all the time. it's not one side BTW...I have no problem with anything you have said in here. you have made it clear that you are giving your opinion and you aren't speaking for others or generalizing. whether I agree with you or not, I have no issues with your stance in here so just what is your problem YR???  |
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I look at it this way. We were gonna get screw no matter what so, we had to pick the vice that hurt the least ;) Also, I do find obama a very intelligent man but, when you see everyone giving him a past on so much you almost have to root for the underdog. The only time that I even remembered him getting bashed some was against Hillary and that didn't even last that long. People bash Obama here in the forms all the time. people bash the other side all the time. it's not one side BTW...I have no problem with anything you have said in here. you have made it clear that you are giving your opinion and you aren't speaking for others or generalizing. whether I agree with you or not, I have no issues with your stance in here so just what is your problem YR??? YOU!!!
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I doubt anything I'm going to show you is going to change your mind. However, you can watch her interview with Katie Couric if you'd like. In my opinion, it does not show her as being vice president material. Seen it. I think it shows someone who felt she was being put into a corner with unfair interviewing tactics. Was Obama asked what magazines and newspapers he reads? I think relying on a single interview as an impression that someone is stupid seems a bit ungainly. Obama is ten months into his presidency and shows absolutely no understanding of how economics work from a Keysian or Austrian school and I don't call him stupid. That's 10 months of evidence. I call him crooked and question his motives, but I wouldn't call him stupid. Even though he is the first president who has refused to release his college grades...just saying... The difference is that Obama would have handled it with far more grace, instead Palin had to act like the poor little martyred victim. Oh they were so mean to me. Why not just say I prefer not to answer the damn question. I might have had more respect for her than the lame a$$ answers she gave. She was answered very direct and simple questions and couldn't answer them, period. She had many interviews, not just that one, she also said many many things on the campaign trail. Do you assume liberals didn't watch all the campaigns? Or all the interviews. Your being asked to google, we already know what she has said. You already know our opinion of her, so why bait us, just go do your own research. Please don't pretend you aren't calling Obama stupid because you are not using the specific word. You don't like Obama, we don't like Palin, not biggy, it's to be expected. And who the heck are you to call anyone dishonest when you obviously are not aware of all the things she has said. I don't think she's stupid at all, I do however think the way she handled herself was pretty lame, and I do think she's a manipulative fundementalist right winger, who learned pretty quickly that you can say almost anything you want, lie or not and make more money spewing BS than actually sticking to a job. Really, I respect your P.O.V on everything but, since we are speaking "honest" (tongue and cheek) I'd say that even you must admit that Palin got trashed badly through out this campaign and that there was never any reason in the world to bring her children into it either. And you have to also admit that she was held back by the McCain people sooo much that people started to think that she had no creditablity bc of the McCain camp. That's who I actually blame and not so much the liberal media. McCain basically spoon fed them by refusing to let her go. And being fair here...as I have mention in other posts that she didn't answer the most direct of question wisely.And it did make her look like a fool whether if it was edited or not there was no excuses for answering some question the way that she did. Ok I can accept that point of view even if there are things I disagree with. Such as, her being trashed. Taking on Palin was an direct insult to the women that voted for Clinton. Mccain thought that we would be so stupid that we would take a woman no matter how we got one as long as women were represented. BS. Typical old man out of touch thinking. Second, she got bashed because of the lame things she said when she was given free run. They held her back because she embarrassed those behind the campaign. I watched McCain's body language at one interview and I swear if they have been alone, he would have read her the riot act for the dumb *** things she said right in front of him. From lipstick on a pig to the dumber things she just let rip thinking the only people paying attention where the fringe in her own base. That's not a particularly bright. Palin and Joe the plumber aren't doing the republicans a favor, they are just making them look more like the radicals they have become. |
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I look at it this way. We were gonna get screw no matter what so, we had to pick the vice that hurt the least ;) Also, I do find obama a very intelligent man but, when you see everyone giving him a past on so much you almost have to root for the underdog. The only time that I even remembered him getting bashed some was against Hillary and that didn't even last that long. People bash Obama here in the forms all the time. people bash the other side all the time. it's not one side BTW...I have no problem with anything you have said in here. you have made it clear that you are giving your opinion and you aren't speaking for others or generalizing. whether I agree with you or not, I have no issues with your stance in here Oh, I know people bash anything and everything in here. I was just replying specifically to what he said.
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I look at it this way. We were gonna get screw no matter what so, we had to pick the vice that hurt the least ;) Also, I do find obama a very intelligent man but, when you see everyone giving him a past on so much you almost have to root for the underdog. The only time that I even remembered him getting bashed some was against Hillary and that didn't even last that long. People bash Obama here in the forms all the time. people bash the other side all the time. it's not one side BTW...I have no problem with anything you have said in here. you have made it clear that you are giving your opinion and you aren't speaking for others or generalizing. whether I agree with you or not, I have no issues with your stance in here Oh, I know people bash anything and everything in here. I was just replying specifically to what he said. the only reason I used that set of quotes was because there were too many other quotes so I went to the source. didn't mean it was supposed to be against you (even though I can see how it could be taken that way) oops
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