Topic: For MsHarmony..Sarah Palin Book Sales #1
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Wed 10/07/09 11:27 AM



She is not "hated" and she isn't demonized for being a conservative. She is been criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence.


You say she has been "criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence." Based on what?


Based on quite a bit of what she has said in the past.


Would you mind being specific? This is your chance to convince us she's stupid...

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Wed 10/07/09 11:27 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Wed 10/07/09 11:27 AM




She is not "hated" and she isn't demonized for being a conservative. She is been criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence.


You say she has been "criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence." Based on what?


surely these posters are only speaking for themselves


Speaking for myself, having listened to things she's said in the past I'd have to agree with what he said.


great...that is speaking for yourself and not deciding what others think and feel

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Wed 10/07/09 11:28 AM




She is not "hated" and she isn't demonized for being a conservative. She is been criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence.


You say she has been "criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence." Based on what?


Based on quite a bit of what she has said in the past.


Would you mind being specific? This is your chance to convince us she's stupid...


Her quotes can be found all over the place. I'm sure you can google and find many, many to read.

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Wed 10/07/09 11:29 AM
laugh ya beat me to it Sings laugh when all else fails, google it laugh

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Wed 10/07/09 11:29 AM





She is not "hated" and she isn't demonized for being a conservative. She is been criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence.


You say she has been "criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence." Based on what?


surely these posters are only speaking for themselves


Speaking for myself, having listened to things she's said in the past I'd have to agree with what he said.


great...that is speaking for yourself and not deciding what others think and feel


Yep, I did say I was speaking for myself. :wink:

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Wed 10/07/09 11:29 AM

Her quotes can be found all over the place. I'm sure you can google and find many, many to read.


So everything she has said has been stupid?

If not, then I would be assuming to know what you guys think. I would really appreciate some help here. Show me why I should believe Palin is stupid.

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Wed 10/07/09 11:30 AM

laugh ya beat me to it Sings laugh when all else fails, google it laugh


:thumbsup:

I'm sure tons of what she's said is all over the internet. :wink:

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Wed 10/07/09 11:30 AM






She is not "hated" and she isn't demonized for being a conservative. She is been criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence.


You say she has been "criticized for her lack of understanding and basic intelligence." Based on what?


surely these posters are only speaking for themselves


Speaking for myself, having listened to things she's said in the past I'd have to agree with what he said.


great...that is speaking for yourself and not deciding what others think and feel


Yep, I did say I was speaking for myself. :wink:


and I'm not debating that. my comment above was for the generalizations of people thinking they know what others think and feel.

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Wed 10/07/09 11:31 AM


Her quotes can be found all over the place. I'm sure you can google and find many, many to read.


So everything she has said has been stupid?

If not, then I would be assuming to know what you guys think. I would really appreciate some help here. Show me why I should believe Palin is stupid.


I did not say everything she has said was stupid. I just pointed out that it is easy to use google and read/watch (I'm sure youtube has a lot) for yourself, rather than relying on what someone else tells you.

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Wed 10/07/09 11:52 AM



Her quotes can be found all over the place. I'm sure you can google and find many, many to read.


So everything she has said has been stupid?

If not, then I would be assuming to know what you guys think. I would really appreciate some help here. Show me why I should believe Palin is stupid.


I did not say everything she has said was stupid. I just pointed out that it is easy to use google and read/watch (I'm sure youtube has a lot) for yourself, rather than relying on what someone else tells you.


But here's the problem: I've asked why YOU think she's not smart. So doing my own research isn't even possible, since I can't research your thoughts. Therefore, I'm going to need some help here. What has she said or done that leads you to believe she isn't intelligent. I'm only asking for a couple of examples here.

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Wed 10/07/09 11:59 AM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Wed 10/07/09 12:00 PM




Her quotes can be found all over the place. I'm sure you can google and find many, many to read.


So everything she has said has been stupid?

If not, then I would be assuming to know what you guys think. I would really appreciate some help here. Show me why I should believe Palin is stupid.


I did not say everything she has said was stupid. I just pointed out that it is easy to use google and read/watch (I'm sure youtube has a lot) for yourself, rather than relying on what someone else tells you.


But here's the problem: I've asked why YOU think she's not smart. So doing my own research isn't even possible, since I can't research your thoughts. Therefore, I'm going to need some help here. What has she said or done that leads you to believe she isn't intelligent. I'm only asking for a couple of examples here.


Your own words quoted within this. You were asking her to show you something that would make you believe that Palin is stupid.

I'm gonna quote you again:

Show me why I should believe Palin is stupid.

Then she replies, that why don't you go out and research it on your own. She most likely researched it and found her to be less desired.
Why can't you do this on your own? What limits you?

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Wed 10/07/09 12:02 PM




Her quotes can be found all over the place. I'm sure you can google and find many, many to read.


So everything she has said has been stupid?

If not, then I would be assuming to know what you guys think. I would really appreciate some help here. Show me why I should believe Palin is stupid.


I did not say everything she has said was stupid. I just pointed out that it is easy to use google and read/watch (I'm sure youtube has a lot) for yourself, rather than relying on what someone else tells you.


But here's the problem: I've asked why YOU think she's not smart. So doing my own research isn't even possible, since I can't research your thoughts. Therefore, I'm going to need some help here. What has she said or done that leads you to believe she isn't intelligent. I'm only asking for a couple of examples here.


I doubt anything I'm going to show you is going to change your mind. However, you can watch her interview with Katie Couric if you'd like. In my opinion, it does not show her as being vice president material.

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Wed 10/07/09 12:12 PM

I doubt anything I'm going to show you is going to change your mind. However, you can watch her interview with Katie Couric if you'd like. In my opinion, it does not show her as being vice president material.


Seen it. I think it shows someone who felt she was being put into a corner with unfair interviewing tactics. Was Obama asked what magazines and newspapers he reads?

I think relying on a single interview as an impression that someone is stupid seems a bit ungainly.

Obama is ten months into his presidency and shows absolutely no understanding of how economics work from a Keysian or Austrian school and I don't call him stupid. That's 10 months of evidence. I call him crooked and question his motives, but I wouldn't call him stupid. Even though he is the first president who has refused to release his college grades...just saying...

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Wed 10/07/09 12:17 PM

Your own words quoted within this. You were asking her to show you something that would make you believe that Palin is stupid.

I'm gonna quote you again:

Show me why I should believe Palin is stupid.

Then she replies, that why don't you go out and research it on your own. She most likely researched it and found her to be less desired.
Why can't you do this on your own? What limits you?


You see, I have heard a lot of people say Sarah Palin is stupid. The only evidence I've seen has been proven to be lies or the Katie Couric interview. That's it. I'm looking for her to explain to me why I should take the Couric interview as demonstrative of Sarah Palin's intellect. Or is there other evidence?

You know, I've seen Obama without a Teleprompter...He makes George Bush look articulate. He's all "ummms" and "ahhhs".

I think it comes down to this: Obama gets a pass, because he's "smart"...everyone "knows" he's smart. But Palin gets beaten on for every mistake. It's pure partisanship. I don't think Obama is dumb, even though he choose Biden as his running mate and said that he had campaigned in 57 states.

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Wed 10/07/09 12:19 PM


I doubt anything I'm going to show you is going to change your mind. However, you can watch her interview with Katie Couric if you'd like. In my opinion, it does not show her as being vice president material.


Seen it. I think it shows someone who felt she was being put into a corner with unfair interviewing tactics. Was Obama asked what magazines and newspapers he reads?

I think relying on a single interview as an impression that someone is stupid seems a bit ungainly.

Obama is ten months into his presidency and shows absolutely no understanding of how economics work from a Keysian or Austrian school and I don't call him stupid. That's 10 months of evidence. I call him crooked and question his motives, but I wouldn't call him stupid. Even though he is the first president who has refused to release his college grades...just saying...


This wasn't the only interview of her and neither she was only asked about the newspapers she reads and that wasn't even the focus of the interview.

It is true that Obama is no perfect either and I would actually call him inexperienced and lacking many skills, but this doesn't make Sarah Palin any smarter.

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Wed 10/07/09 12:19 PM
I didn't say I relied on on interview to base my thoughts on her, but thanks for calling me stupid. :thumbsup:

I gave you an example. There are many others out there for you to find, read and watch.

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Wed 10/07/09 12:23 PM

I didn't say I relied on on interview to base my thoughts on her, but thanks for calling me stupid. :thumbsup:

I gave you an example. There are many others out there for you to find, read and watch.


People like you really bother me. If I had called you stupid, it would be one thing, but to accuse me of a bannable offense, which I didn't commit is simply beyond the pale. I would ask you to apologize, but experience tells me that you would simply insist that I had called you stupid and you would refuse to see your mistake. I don't think you are stupid, but I think you are dishonest. And that is a far worse thing to be, since nobody chooses to be stupid and it takes requires an active decision to be dishonest.

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Wed 10/07/09 12:26 PM


Your own words quoted within this. You were asking her to show you something that would make you believe that Palin is stupid.

I'm gonna quote you again:

Show me why I should believe Palin is stupid.

Then she replies, that why don't you go out and research it on your own. She most likely researched it and found her to be less desired.
Why can't you do this on your own? What limits you?


You see, I have heard a lot of people say Sarah Palin is stupid. The only evidence I've seen has been proven to be lies or the Katie Couric interview. That's it. I'm looking for her to explain to me why I should take the Couric interview as demonstrative of Sarah Palin's intellect. Or is there other evidence?

You know, I've seen Obama without a Teleprompter...He makes George Bush look articulate. He's all "ummms" and "ahhhs".

I think it comes down to this: Obama gets a pass, because he's "smart"...everyone "knows" he's smart. But Palin gets beaten on for every mistake. It's pure partisanship. I don't think Obama is dumb, even though he choose Biden as his running mate and said that he had campaigned in 57 states.


Hmm, interesting. You have seen Obama , a constitutional lawyer, unable to speak with intelligible english,,like Bush? I would love to know when and where, or see an example. OBama was a better candidate for many reasons to those who voted. For me, several of those reasons did relate to his intelligenc; his ability to be a leader, to handle himself, to SPEAK fluently in a way that wouldnt embarass us when he meets with other heads of states, his tendency to take his own responsibility for whatever weaknesses and not blame them on outside persons,,many things tied to intelligence made him a better choice FOR ME. Those were not the only things I considered though.

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Wed 10/07/09 12:29 PM


I didn't say I relied on on interview to base my thoughts on her, but thanks for calling me stupid. :thumbsup:

I gave you an example. There are many others out there for you to find, read and watch.


People like you really bother me. If I had called you stupid, it would be one thing, but to accuse me of a bannable offense, which I didn't commit is simply beyond the pale. I would ask you to apologize, but experience tells me that you would simply insist that I had called you stupid and you would refuse to see your mistake. I don't think you are stupid, but I think you are dishonest. And that is a far worse thing to be, since nobody chooses to be stupid and it takes requires an active decision to be dishonest.


I read back and see that I did misread what you wrote. I'm sorry. It was a mistake. It was not me being dishonest, so there is no need to get upset.

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Wed 10/07/09 12:30 PM
Edited by franshade on Wed 10/07/09 12:31 PM


I didn't say I relied on on interview to base my thoughts on her, but thanks for calling me stupid. :thumbsup:

I gave you an example. There are many others out there for you to find, read and watch.


People like you really bother me. If I had called you stupid, it would be one thing, but to accuse me of a bannable offense, which I didn't commit is simply beyond the pale. I would ask you to apologize, but experience tells me that you would simply insist that I had called you stupid and you would refuse to see your mistake. I don't think you are stupid, but I think you are dishonest. And that is a far worse thing to be, since nobody chooses to be stupid and it
takes requires an active decision to be dishonest.


Spider, you questioned Sings, she replied, albeit not to your liking but to go this route is not real cool.

Now everyone back in their corners for time out.... :banana:


*edit*
and she did apologize, now everyone back in the pool :thumbsup: