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Many people will not even read a post that is all caps.
I KNOW I DIDN'T!!! 
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Anyway, the main reason for this thread is because I am tired of people talking to me about 'God' when we don't even have an understanding about what that is. Shall I assume that they mean the God within? Or shall I assume they are talking about some character in the Bible who wants people to worship him? |
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Or shall I assume they are talking about some character in the Bible who wants people to worship him? I'd like to support you here Jeanniebean I seriously doubt that God needs a bible/holy books or someone to worship him .. lol |
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Or shall I assume they are talking about some character in the Bible who wants people to worship him? I'd like to support you here Jeanniebean I seriously doubt that God needs a bible/holy books or someone to worship him .. lol Thanks. I do suspect that there are some entities in this universe that do attempt to pass themselves off as "Gods" and demand worship. I see this trait even in humans like rock stars and famous people. So if it can happen in Humans, the it surely can happen in aliens, or other spiritual entities that might exist. |
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My closest definition of the physical "God", is an unconscious entity that creates and destroys without being aware.
There is no good/bad to "Its" actions, just actions, that will lead to consequences. Is this entity "alive"? Well, it depends, what we call life, then I think it's beyond that. The closest term "energy" but it's not uncontrolled. Intelligent? . I would rather call it "logical and with a purpose." Is there a physical form to It ? Not really, maybe a somehow measurable flow of energy, that recycles and creates new from old. something like this: 
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Everybody eventually gets around to using the term "God" in philosophical discussions, either with reverence or disdain, but how often in a discussion do people actually define what they mean by that term? If you don't define it how can you talk about it when everyone probably has a different idea what that word represents? If God is energy, can you prove that God exists? YES. Are we energy? Yes we are. We exist. We can prove it. If God is the universe, can you prove that God exists? YES. If God is consciousness, can you prove that God exists? YES. If God is Nature, can you prove that God exists? YES. If God is some super natural being whom nobody has ever actually seen who is rumored to have created the universe and everything in it, can you prove that God exists? NO! Mathematically it can be determined that there is a higher probability that the universe was created from the time of the big bang by "god", then the probability that it was a totally random event. The main issue that cannot be agreed upon is "what is god", Oprah says we are all gods within ourselves, Atheism states that there is no god, Most other major faiths say that god is a celestial being or beings with the power to create, control or destroy at a whim, some cultures believe that god is the end result of nature allowing the proper conditions for their survival. It's hard to argue the existence or non existence of an entity or entities that cannot be properly defined. |
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The main issue that cannot be agreed upon is "what is god",
Exactly. |
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The main issue that cannot be agreed upon is "what is god",
*************** Exactly. ***************** Has it really taken 12 pages of discussion to arrive to such a simple, yet ingenious conclusion ? ? ?
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The main issue that cannot be agreed upon is "what is god",
*************** Exactly. ***************** Has it really taken 12 pages of discussion to arrive to such a simple, yet ingenious conclusion ? ? ?
LOL, yup. Everyone has their own individual representation of who/what god is and no one will ever be able prove or disprove god's existence until they die and either go to be with their god or not. I have to admit though that it is kind of fun watching the philosophical debate constantly degrade into personal attacks :) |
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One can always determine what God IS by showing what God ISN'T.
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Edited by
firedude1971
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Sat 10/24/09 12:06 AM
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One can always determine what God IS by showing what God ISN'T. Yeah, but by time you get into the list of what god isn't - you're already dead and have found the answer out for yourself. 1) God isn't a Platypus 2)God isn't a potato 3)God isn't rain 4)God isn't a Buick etc. Pretty much anything other then physical representations can't be proved or disproved. Saying to a religious person that they did not "feel", gods presence is like telling an amputee that they did not feel a phantom pain or telling a smiling person that they don't feel happy. The person who is "feeling", has no physical way to prove to others what they felt but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's psychosomatic and not real to at least that person. |
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The main issue that cannot be agreed upon is "what is god",
*************** Exactly. ***************** Has it really taken 12 pages of discussion to arrive to such a simple, yet ingenious conclusion ? ? ?
LOL, yup. Everyone has their own individual representation of who/what god is and no one will ever be able prove or disprove god's existence until they die and either go to be with their god or not. I have to admit though that it is kind of fun watching the philosophical debate constantly degrade into personal attacks :) Until they die? I seriously doubt it. What makes you think that when you die you will know any more than you know now? If there is a great deity or an infinite God what makes you think you will be taken to his presence when you die and how would you know if anything you see after death, if you see anything, is God? |
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Edited by
JaneStar1
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Sun 10/25/09 01:29 AM
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The main issue that cannot be agreed upon is "what is god",
*************** Exactly. ***************** Has it really taken 12 pages of discussion to arrive to such a simple, yet ingenious conclusion ? ? ?
LOL, yup. Everyone has their own individual representation of who/what god is and no one will ever be able prove or disprove god's existence until they die and either go to be with their god or not. I have to admit though that it is kind of fun watching the philosophical debate constantly degrade into personal attacks :) It seems, the reason "everyone has their own individual representation of who/what god is" is because the "real" God appears to have many manifestations -- about as many as there are people... and all of those spirits are wandering the after life, pondering the idea of the missed opportunity: ..All of that time I've been praying to some deity was a waste of time because, it appears, the deity has always been inside of me!!! What a waste! -- that, actually, what _HELL is!
* If eternal spirit is to be taken for granted, then DEATH rezembles a SENSORY DEPRIVATION TANK -- No light, No sound... just those strange memories floating around... The spirit would have nothing but past experiences to recount... |
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Is there a physical form to It ? Not really, maybe a somehow measurable flow of energy, that recycles and creates new from old. something like this:
At 1st sight this is a good idea but ... "flow of energy, that recycles and creates new from old" means also a beginning and an end , transformations and time .. So non of those enumerated parameters define the idea abt " God" And maybe there is /exist something more than we know ... who knows .. maybe only god ..lol  
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My closest definition of the physical "God", is an unconscious entity that creates and destroys without being aware. There is no good/bad to "Its" actions, just actions, that will lead to consequences. Is this entity "alive"? Well, it depends, what we call life, then I think it's beyond that. The closest term "energy" but it's not uncontrolled. Intelligent? . I would rather call it "logical and with a purpose." Is there a physical form to It ? Not really, maybe a somehow measurable flow of energy, that recycles and creates new from old. something like this:
I don't believe Prime source has physical form at its core. I do believe that it manifested form and that in inhabits form and that its consciousness flows through that form. So it has a body, and that body is form. |
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