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When one leaves out purpose, reason, and intent 'God' goes away...
Yup. Pretty much everything goes away, except an unending cycle of deterministic cause-and-effect with no purpose or reason.
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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If God is energy, can you prove that God exists? YES. Can you define the energy ,pls ? If God is some super natural being whom nobody has ever actually seen who is rumored to have created the universe and everything in it, can you prove that God exists? NO! So , then who do you think created all above - universe and everything in it ? Can I define energy? Not really. I don't think anyone (or anything) 'created' the universe (and everything in it.) I believe (and this is my personal belief) that everything manifests, -- it is not created. To 'create' something is to imply that it is separate from you. To "manifest" is to change from one thing (that already exists) to another thing. An egg does not 'create' a chicken. It manifests into a chicken. |
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When one leaves out purpose, reason, and intent 'God' goes away...
I realize you put 'God' into semi-quotes (as if you admit you are not sure what 'God' is either)...? ... so I am not sure what your statement really means to say. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 09/16/09 08:57 AM
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Concerning Jess's statement that everything is as it should be...
"..should be.." is or sounds a bit harsh, as 'should be' sounds more like an opinion. And there are many opinions. But what this statement means is that everything is working. The law of cause and effect is working the way it was designed to work. That is as it "should be." Should you get hit by a train? No, but you will if you sit on the train track and a train comes by. That is the law. The law is as it should be. Should you die of lung cancer? No, but you might if you continue to smoke and lead an unhealthy life style. That is the law of cause and effect, and that is as it should be. "Everything is as it 'should be' is simply saying that the law is working. That is as it should be. 
If this law fails to work, there would be chaos. (That would be an awful place.... like Hell.) |
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Edited by
Locakiss
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Wed 09/16/09 10:25 AM
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If God is energy, can you prove that God exists? YES. Can you define the energy ,pls ? If God is some super natural being whom nobody has ever actually seen who is rumored to have created the universe and everything in it, can you prove that God exists? NO! So , then who do you think created all above - universe and everything in it ? We would have all our questions answered and would know without a doubt our species "place" in existence. I think this universe was created from another one, like this: Astronomy and Astral Pyhsics holds that the universe can end in several ways. One is that everything gets sucked into the numerous blackholes that will pervade the universe when all the stars finally die. These blackholes "evaporate" away (not sure why on this, sounds cool)and nothing is left. Really no room for a 'god' here. On the other hand, ALL the matter and energy in the universe is compressed....until, and here's where my point comes in  , it all explodes and 'creates' a new universe.
Is a "god" needed to give this little push? Is a "god" an energy form that can spark this new universe? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT I can't ever know, can you? 
Thank you for your post . I like when ppl explain their point of view without craziness or bigotry. So about black holes - It turned out that the process of absorbing matter is very complicated and strange. Following the investigating physical and mathematical model of the process, they received unexpected results, that matter has transformed, leaving a "record" as on the matrix and that at a later stage the entire record might suddenly appears / re-materialized. On the other hand, ALL the matter and energy in the universe is compressed....until, and here's where my point comes in
, it all explodes and 'creates' a new universe.ermm.... then god seems more like energy - accelerator than almighty god-creator 
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I think maybe the main difference between the scientific and religious viewpoints could be said to be that science assumes that “the universe and everything” was never “created”, but instead that “it always existed.” The scientific point of view is that universe and everything is created on the basis of chemical-physical bonds and combinations like an effect of the "big bang " |
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If God is energy, can you prove that God exists? YES. Can you define the energy ,pls ? If God is some super natural being whom nobody has ever actually seen who is rumored to have created the universe and everything in it, can you prove that God exists? NO! So , then who do you think created all above - universe and everything in it ? Can I define energy? Not really. I don't think anyone (or anything) 'created' the universe (and everything in it.) I believe (and this is my personal belief) that everything manifests, -- it is not created. To 'create' something is to imply that it is separate from you. To "manifest" is to change from one thing (that already exists) to another thing. An egg does not 'create' a chicken. It manifests into a chicken. But when you claim that God is energy then you know /have to know what is the energy , to define this category because of us , to understand it better your idea abt God-energy To "manifest" is to change from one thing (that already exists) to another thing.
manifest of existence includes matter, substance hence something which is temporary and when something manifest itself is a consequence not the basis and the reason of existence |
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Concerning Jess's statement that everything is as it should be... "..should be.." is or sounds a bit harsh, as 'should be' sounds more like an opinion. And there are many opinions. But what this statement means is that everything is working. The law of cause and effect is working the way it was designed to work. That is as it "should be." Should you get hit by a train? No, but you will if you sit on the train track and a train comes by. That is the law. The law is as it should be. Should you die of lung cancer? No, but you might if you continue to smoke and lead an unhealthy life style. That is the law of cause and effect, and that is as it should be. "Everything is as it 'should be' is simply saying that the law is working. That is as it should be.
If this law fails to work, there would be chaos. (That would be an awful place.... like Hell.) It's warming to recognise that another has an understanding of my words, my thoughts, my impressions... thankyou. 
Ironically....in this jumbled up human world and views on what is, what isn't, what could be, what should be.... Everything continues doing what it's doing....regardless.
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If God is energy, can you prove that God exists? YES. Can you define the energy ,pls ? If God is some super natural being whom nobody has ever actually seen who is rumored to have created the universe and everything in it, can you prove that God exists? NO! So , then who do you think created all above - universe and everything in it ? Can I define energy? Not really. I don't think anyone (or anything) 'created' the universe (and everything in it.) I believe (and this is my personal belief) that everything manifests, -- it is not created. To 'create' something is to imply that it is separate from you. To "manifest" is to change from one thing (that already exists) to another thing. An egg does not 'create' a chicken. It manifests into a chicken. But when you claim that God is energy then you know /have to know what is the energy , to define this category because of us , to understand it better your idea abt God-energy To "manifest" is to change from one thing (that already exists) to another thing.
manifest of existence includes matter, substance hence something which is temporary and when something manifest itself is a consequence not the basis and the reason of existence I only asked the question: Is God energy? I did not claim that God was energy. I have no definition for God or energy. As for your last statement: It does not apply. While "manifestations: (of matter) are 'temporary' (because everything changes)... energy never ceases to exist. Matter only changes form or manifests into something else. I only said that I do not believe that some supreme humanoid being called "God," "created" the world. If 'he' did, I would like to know how 'he' did it. If God is a 'he' I would like to know what makes him male. If he is of humanoid form or body or appearance, I would like to know other things about this being. I am not claiming anything. I am questioning the common concept of "God." I am not claiming it is not true. I am just saying that if it is true, I have questions. |
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If God is energy, can you prove that God exists? YES. Can you define the energy ,pls ? If God is some super natural being whom nobody has ever actually seen who is rumored to have created the universe and everything in it, can you prove that God exists? NO! So , then who do you think created all above - universe and everything in it ? We would have all our questions answered and would know without a doubt our species "place" in existence. I think this universe was created from another one, like this: Astronomy and Astral Pyhsics holds that the universe can end in several ways. One is that everything gets sucked into the numerous blackholes that will pervade the universe when all the stars finally die. These blackholes "evaporate" away (not sure why on this, sounds cool)and nothing is left. Really no room for a 'god' here. On the other hand, ALL the matter and energy in the universe is compressed....until, and here's where my point comes in , it all explodes and 'creates' a new universe.
Is a "god" needed to give this little push? Is a "god" an energy form that can spark this new universe? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT I can't ever know, can you?
Thank you for your post . I like when ppl explain their point of view without craziness or bigotry. So about black holes - It turned out that the process of absorbing matter is very complicated and strange. Following the investigating physical and mathematical model of the process, they received unexpected results, that matter has transformed, leaving a "record" as on the matrix and that at a later stage the entire record might suddenly appears / re-materialized. On the other hand, ALL the matter and energy in the universe is compressed....until, and here's where my point comes in
, it all explodes and 'creates' a new universe.ermm.... then god seems more like energy - accelerator than almighty god-creator
But I dont believe that there is a god, seems kinda silly to me in this day and age when we have advanced so far into the realms of physics and mathematics. I cant prove that there is or isnt a "super entity", I'll just say that I have faith that there isnt one
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If God is energy, can you prove that God exists? YES. Can you define the energy ,pls ? If God is some super natural being whom nobody has ever actually seen who is rumored to have created the universe and everything in it, can you prove that God exists? NO! So , then who do you think created all above - universe and everything in it ? Can I define energy? Not really. I don't think anyone (or anything) 'created' the universe (and everything in it.) I believe (and this is my personal belief) that everything manifests, -- it is not created. To 'create' something is to imply that it is separate from you. To "manifest" is to change from one thing (that already exists) to another thing. An egg does not 'create' a chicken. It manifests into a chicken. But when you claim that God is energy then you know /have to know what is the energy , to define this category because of us , to understand it better your idea abt God-energy To "manifest" is to change from one thing (that already exists) to another thing.
manifest of existence includes matter, substance hence something which is temporary and when something manifest itself is a consequence not the basis and the reason of existence I only asked the question: Is God energy? I did not claim that God was energy. I have no definition for God or energy. As for your last statement: It does not apply. While "manifestations: (of matter) are 'temporary' (because everything changes)... energy never ceases to exist. Matter only changes form or manifests into something else. The matter exists in a temporary form , and this existence we get through manifestation of its qualities . If God is a 'he' I would like to know what makes him male. hahaha .. this we can suppose and discuss only somewhere in girly forums 
I am questioning the common concept of "God." I am not claiming it is not true. I am just saying that if it is true, I have questions. Oh , the same here. Sorry if my questions seems to you sharp ...I just provoke and challenge your logic and creativity 
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If God is energy, can you prove that God exists? YES. Can you define the energy ,pls ? If God is some super natural being whom nobody has ever actually seen who is rumored to have created the universe and everything in it, can you prove that God exists? NO! So , then who do you think created all above - universe and everything in it ? We would have all our questions answered and would know without a doubt our species "place" in existence. I think this universe was created from another one, like this: Astronomy and Astral Pyhsics holds that the universe can end in several ways. One is that everything gets sucked into the numerous blackholes that will pervade the universe when all the stars finally die. These blackholes "evaporate" away (not sure why on this, sounds cool)and nothing is left. Really no room for a 'god' here. On the other hand, ALL the matter and energy in the universe is compressed....until, and here's where my point comes in , it all explodes and 'creates' a new universe.
Is a "god" needed to give this little push? Is a "god" an energy form that can spark this new universe? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT I can't ever know, can you?
Thank you for your post . I like when ppl explain their point of view without craziness or bigotry. So about black holes - It turned out that the process of absorbing matter is very complicated and strange. Following the investigating physical and mathematical model of the process, they received unexpected results, that matter has transformed, leaving a "record" as on the matrix and that at a later stage the entire record might suddenly appears / re-materialized. On the other hand, ALL the matter and energy in the universe is compressed....until, and here's where my point comes in
, it all explodes and 'creates' a new universe.ermm.... then god seems more like energy - accelerator than almighty god-creator
But I dont believe that there is a god, seems kinda silly to me in this day and age when we have advanced so far into the realms of physics and mathematics. I cant prove that there is or isnt a "super entity", I'll just say that I have faith that there isnt one
I've read this from your profile ......I'm a senior at UT in Nuclear Engineering,....... so I'm waiting from you to know more about them. 
so ... the first step is to get better the idea about matter and anti-matter. Now scientists found out the real proofs of "creation" and "end " of everything which is the balance and interaction of these 2 substance - matter and anti-matter as they called "around the edges of the universe" The process is similar like the process of fry around the edges of that what we put into hot oil. in the same time matter is created and sucked . oooooh I hope that you get the idea of it ... there are many theories abt the creation and end of the world / our universe /, about singular existence ,about crystal structure of universe , and ... but I think you know them better than I 
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Hey Locakiss,
I'm afraid you are under a misconception
In the broadest sense, my degree just deals with the fission process and the use of the heat released to generate electricity. Later 
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Hey Locakiss, I'm afraid you are under a misconception
In the broadest sense, my degree just deals with the fission process and the use of the heat released to generate electricity. Later
Hey Fusion , sorry that I late with my comments but I find hardly few mins lately .. I'm very busy and I hope in few weeks all this to back again into the normal frames ... oh .. forgive my ignorance abt your degree but the true is that it respect me serious ...lol
and I'm sure that you know the theory of resonance of united fields from micro to macro cosmos and because of this or according this theory your " fission process" is as much important as the greatest one :) and right now comes an idea in my mind .. then is it possible the that god could be like us ppl and we ppl to be like god ... ? huh / by theory of resonance of interactions ? / ... 
see you |
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Edited by
JaneStar1
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Sat 09/26/09 08:54 PM
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-Jeannibean:
I only said that I do not believe that some supreme humanoid being called "God," "created" the world.
- If 'he' did, I would like to know how 'he' did it. - If God is a 'he' I would like to know what makes him male. - If he is of humanoid form or body or appearance, I would like to know other things about this being. Yes, wouldn't we all like to know the answers to at least some of those questions??? Unfortunately, I guess, we never will! For, if we ever come close to answering any of them, we might as well become gods ourselves!!! But, regarding the appearances and sexual belonging: I DOUBT THEY'RE ATTRIBUTABLE TO GOD -- just as they aren't attributable to an INTELLECT, or an ENERGY, or an ENERGY POSSESSING the INTELLECT... |
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EVERYTHING IS ENERGY, the BIGGEST ENERGY IS THE SUN that is what is the real GOD that gives life to everything
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EVERYTHING IS ENERGY, the BIGGEST ENERGY IS THE SUN that is what is the real GOD that gives life to everything I beg your pardon, but what particular solar system are you referring to? Which particular gallaxy? (Frankly, I feel silly even asking those trivial questions...) |
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Edited by
JaneStar1
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Sun 09/27/09 08:26 PM
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EVERYTHING IS ENERGY, the BIGGEST ENERGY IS THE SUN that is what is the real GOD that gives life to everything Sure seems like some people tend to choose the wong topic for publishing their comments -- a pseudo-intellectual stin_king BS!!! |
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Using scientific theory as fact? Interesting. What will be said when a new theory...uhm, fact is hypothesized? Not static, dynamic! Just saying...
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BELIEFS ARE DANGEROUS!
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