Alright, I'm going to say it. Middle aged women. I say hello to a middle aged woman that I find attractive and she becomes suspicious. So, I just move on and talk to someone else. Then when I hit it off with someone else, usually a woman in her 20s, the middle aged woman that snubbed me before calls me a cradle robber. I'm only talking to the 20 something because she snubbed me when I tried to talk to her.

So, because I'm giving people complements you assume it's not real? That I'm some kind of player? Why do you go to this conclusion? Why couldn't it be that I'm saying you are attractive because I think you are attractive?

This seems like low self esteem to me. "This guy just said I'm pretty. Why did he do that? He must have some other motive."

No. If I said it it's because I think it's true.

I can only go from what you post....and if you compliment all and sundry, by turn...it's not real...to me.

Do I think you are a player? no. if I did I would say it.

if you took the time to notice all of me....separate to every other human being around....it would be real....to me...the compliment would be real.

the rest is just gratuitous platitudes....to me.


and I was exactly the same at 20....it's called discernment.

Okay Jess642, so let's assume for a moment that you and I are both attending some social function. I see you and I think you're an attractive woman and I'd like to know more about you. So, I approach you, tap you on the arm, smile and say "I really like your hat. I'm Ray. What's your name?" Then I offer to shake your hand. (BTW I'm talking about the cowboy hat in the photo in your profile.) Why would this put you off? It never puts off old women, young women or men. Only middle aged women.

its not you, its the drool...

maybe they just suck?

Maybe.

Ooooo....

More sheeple.

Excellent.

I need some of those friends.

I wouldn't always be wrong that way.

by the time they are there, in their early 40's to late 50's, they've been through heck, and the games that they've had to endure......they are just over it.........when they are much older, they could care less, and enjoy the attention, for they are more at peace with themselves.......... and the younger ones SOMETIMES lack experience with all the facets of the players, but they are definitely on their way to experience this.....what a shame, to hurt someone for the sake of getting laid....

interesting.......for when a true comment is made, now it's looked at with suspicion, NOT low self esteem...... turn the tables.......put you in their place! NOW look at it! LOOKS DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER SIDE..........what do i know, i'm just another lesbian........

If you came up to me at a party or anywhere with, "Hi. You're so petite. Great smile." I would be polite as I inched myself 25 feet away from you. But, if you said something relevant and believable such as, "I saw how you tap danced across the foyer when you came in and that was wild!" OR "I have never seen anyone toss an olive in the air and catch it with a toothpick in their teeth like you did. Care to dance?" That just beats the heck out of, "Your nose is bitchen. I'm Ted"

Absolutely nothing wrong with that.







A very different scenario to the ones you had posted before that...

if you commented on the person next to me's shirt while saying the same thing, and the lady standing next to me's shoes and bright smile, and the waiter's cummerbund...

I'd be suspect.

I never said I do anything like that. I don't know where you get that from.

I said when I see a woman I'm interested in I approach her and say something like "Hi, you are too cute. I have to meet you. I'm Ray. What's your name?" Then I shake her hand.

So, why are so many middle aged women suspicious? Low self esteem perhaps?

Hahahaha Ray, I can't answer that...I'm not every middle aged woman...nor am I middle aged, but I will let you know when I get there, if I am insecure with low self esteem...

Phuque knows you, and she's been around the ridges....perhaps she could ask some of her older galfriends for you...

"I've been trying to understand why a certain group of women (don't want to point any fingers) appears to dislike me. I speak to this group the exact same way I speak to any woman. I say hello, give them some kind of complement and shake hands. But, this one group seems to view me with suspicion. "......................


that post alone gave the impression that it is complimenting every woman in the group...group meaning more than one.... as in a whole heap of them together in the one place..

I am starting to supect that you were implying this particular demographic age group of women...not a whole heap of them together...


that's where I got the idea from...a group is usually a collective of a few...

A band is a 'group' of musicians, all together at the same time...yeah?

Your profile says you are 45. That is middle aged. Middle age begins at 36 and lasts until the end of 64. That's according to the US Censis.

Glad I am Australian then....

Dagnabbit, Jess! Don't put me in the middle of this! I will be turning 48 this Friday & consider myself nothing more & nothing less than awesome! Middle-aged is a state of mind, IMO...

I've hung out & talked with Ray on the phone on several occasions & found him to be personable & entertaining (he plays a mean steel guitar)...& even a lil quiet at times. Of course, "I" have great self-esteem... ...so, I doubt that I'M one of the "middle-aged" women he's referring to!

Does his profile make him appear to be a lil brash? Yep! And I've told him that myself... Is this a thread that is gonna ruffle the feathers of some "middle-aged" women (like his last "popular" thread)? Undoubtedly! But hey! At least it's not another "nice guy" thread...! Words can only affect the ones who allow them to...& THAT'S the difference between a WOMAN...& a "middle-aged woman"...

See ya' this Saturday, Ray...& Jess...I sooooooo wish you could be there!

one question

are you a native born Texan?

in which case if so, you just do what you do and say what you say and the hell with anybody who dont like it

Oh hell! I don't know about Ray, but I don't have to be a native to do that!

you're a Texan who just happened to have been born somewhere else.