Yes, Ruth all of us at who met her at the KC Meet at Sherry's and here at my house that weekend at the BBQ will miss her greatly. She was truly an angel among us.

hey man you took a chance.you went outside your comfort zone.good for you.it didnt work out quite as you planned but you'll never say what if..

Friend at a meeting wife's stepfather passed away last night. Went through the bawling myself a few years back with my wife's passing. It is hard on the survivors. One lady at the meeting has a pacemaker and has to take prescriptions. She has 13 months sober. Hard to replace the friendship of others who have been through similar circumstances. Glad the program still works for me and others. Hoping comfort for you, Karen and your significant others.

Yes Robin, she was indeed an angel among us!



Thank you Amber for the prayers

Mbcasey, thank you

Mommy, I am so sorry for your loss and her family's. That is why I tell anyone involved in domestic violence situations to get out. I spent 10 years in a nightmare situation and was lucky enough to get out. I am so glad that you got to spend some good time with her over Labor Day, you will always have those memories to cherish, and now you will also have a guardian angel watching over you. Try to concentrate on the good memories, it is not easy, but hopefully will get easier with time.

sorry for your loss.thats tough..

I've got kid issues going on right now that it is putting me in a deep depression. I won't go into details but i'm at that point i have no clue what to do anymore and i'm close to cancelling christmas. I hate that because I always love Christmas and watching the boys open their presents. This year they haven't been good enought to even get coal in their stocking

You got mail...

i know

Sorry Kater, I think everyone has issues this year. Money is tight everywhere. The gas companies are robbing us at the pumps, because of the high prices, the grocery prices are high and it just goes on and on. People are having trouble paying their bills. I think it is widespread. I type for doctors who are treating older people who are depressed because their businesses are not doing well or their kids businesses are failing and they are depressed because of that, some suicidal, or some have had their kids commit suicide because their business was failing. It is just awful.

I understand about Christmas, no matter how I work the bills, I can't figure it out so I can go see my grandkids, haven't seen them since February or so, and don't have money for presents either this year, so believe me, I understand where everyone is coming from. Working on a refinance on the house, bank says yes then no, now a new bank says yes, but who knows, I don't count on anyone anymore.

Be happy you have your family and Jesse, boys will act out, it is normal, maybe it is a transition thing with Jesse being there. I wouldn't cancel Christmas, just make the best of things and I hope things go well. Take care.

I can't stop drinking. I don't want to live in reality anymore. I am so sad.

Are you drinking now...if so, are you binging?

Come back and post again if you want to talk Onegoofydame...alot of people here have experience with what you are going through.

If noone is here, just make a post and someone will be on later to help. Or you can send mails to people you know in this thread. I hope it works out for you.

Goofy - sorry you are going through a hard time right now. I know you talked about relapse before. Like MB said, there are people here to talk to if you want to, in e-mail or on here.
I hate to see you suffering like this. I hope you find someone to talk to. Take care.

goof, what's wrong?????????????

I just got back from a NA meeting. Since I am dually addicted I find I need both NA and AA. I find dually addicted people in both groups but some prefer one or the other. The wonderful thing about 12 steps programs I have found is that I can share or just listen. With the new ones just coming in just to get there court paper signed sometimes there is just dead air space but the old timers usually take care of the dead air space. Nice to know that new meetings are always springing up. Really felt like I needed a meeting tonight and I couldn't get there fast enough. Felt okay just a soon as I got there. Tonight's topic was from the Just For Today handbook about people pleasing and laziness and how they go together. One lady shared with how she felt getting the food on the table was her role as a mother and it helped me because I felt my role as a father was just making a living. I get along well with her whole family especially her son and daughter. Her husband is a good friend. Went to Walmart afterwards and had a nice conversation with the guy who took my money for the Deli. Finding out that I don't have to isolate any more and the only who keeps me from meeting other people is me.

i like being isolated.. cause the people who are 'closest' to me usually are the ones who fark me over. My fmaily hates me. my older bro is a drop out and a loser and only got a job cause he knocked his gf up and well i guess m 8 years of college and 4 degrees don't mean squat to them. im honestly tired of trying to trying anymore. I just dont care wether i get a good job or not cause no one frankly will ever give me any credit and i smile and take it up the az cause im a moron.

I used to could handle being isolated when my wife was with me. As long as I had her with me the rest of the world could just kiss my ass. Whole life until my wife passed away I was pretty much antisocial but when she passed away something just snapped inside of me. The flood of new emotions and feelings were almost like when I went through rehab. Just couldn't be the hermit any more. That was my answer when they asked us when we were kids what we wanted to be when we grew up; a hermit. Grief can do some really weird things to a person. I am not really close to family but friends who I have met in the meetings I attend I find myself being really close to. It is because we share a common bond. Just like me for the most part their life is screwed up and they didn't do it right the first time, either. Got to dig yourself out of the depression you are in, Jeff. Went to college myself but I wouldn't trade my job at the nursing home for about anything now. Helping others helps me a lot. It ain't the money or prestige that really helps one it is the friends one can make that can make a person's life worthwhile.

Wish i could say it was all just about money. It's my kids behavior that has me almost being a grinch this year. Not sure what is going on inside of them but they won't talk to me..just show thier negative attitudes and do stuff they know what is wrong.

I am learning how to use vanity as an asset. This one man I have to deal with each night who is almost always grumpy just lights up when this new aide comes into his room. He told me that he hates seeing me coming because I am too slow; not built for the job and that I scare him. The new aide likes watching the video Girls Gone Wild. Since she started and the other new aide started things with the old man are different. I heard a rumor that one of them liked other women. I asked the one who has children how her and her old man were doing. She said that her and her old man split up but her and her old lady were doing fine. I have found that moral support can be helpful but so can immoral support can work, too. It is interesting to see moral support and immoral support working together. I have found it to be very interesting. Now when I come in with the two girls I don't have a bit of trouble with the old man. He is so busy watching them that he doesn't give me a bit of trouble changing him. The girls aren't afraid to be with him as long as I am in the room with them. But for some reason I feel like a pimp now.