Topic: It was 40 years ago today....
FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 08/09/09 12:51 PM

We were just wondering how long it would take you to find this thread, Fear?! laugh


I actually despise the fact that Manson is considered a serial killer, he didn't really kill anyone. Manson is a joke.

Mr_Music's photo
Sun 08/09/09 12:52 PM
Manson shot and killed Bernard Crowe.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 08/09/09 12:53 PM

Manson shot and killed Bernard Crowe.


Again, Manson is not a serial killer...murderer, yes, serial killer? No.

Mr_Music's photo
Sun 08/09/09 12:54 PM
Yes, but it was under his leadership and dictatorship that his followers carried out his orders/wishes.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 08/09/09 12:55 PM


do you don't you want me to make you? comin down fast but I'm miles above you. tell me tell me tell me the answer. you may be a lover but you ain't no dancer




scared


Everywhere there's piggies living their piggy lives
you can see them out to dinner with their piggy wives
clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon....

In their style with all their backing, they don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking, what they need's a damn good wacking

auburngirl's photo
Sun 08/09/09 12:56 PM
I saw a recent or relatively recent picture of Manson. He is a shriveled up old man. Even those eyes of his aren't as scary with age.

Peachiepoohie's photo
Sun 08/09/09 12:58 PM

Yes, but it was under his leadership and dictatorship that his followers carried out his orders/wishes.


By that reasoning Jim Jones would be a serial killler...which is SO not the case. His followers were more than happy to drink the Grape Flavor-Aid. They were more than happy to have thier kids drink it. Hundreds of people were killed that day... but Jim Jones ain't no serial killer.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 08/09/09 12:59 PM

Yes, but it was under his leadership and dictatorship that his followers carried out his orders/wishes.


But that doesn't stop the masses from saying Manson is the most notorious serial killer known...I personally don't really see any of the Manson Family as serial killers, impulsive murderers maybe, but far from serial killers. They had no organization in the killings, it was all an impulsive crime.

Now when you get into the likes of Dahmer, Bundy, Rader, and Gacy...they were serial killers, organized, cunning, and well thoughtout plans.

auburngirl's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:01 PM
I think Jim Jones and Manson would be considered Cult leaders. Able to convince people to do stupid and horrible acts. Jim Jones did order those people on that air strip killed however.

Mr_Music's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:01 PM
I never said anything about Manson or Jones being serial killers themselves. I only mentioned that there were others who were more than willing to do their bidding. All they had to do was tell them to do it. It's the equivalent of holding the gun while telling somebody else to pull the trigger.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:06 PM

I never said anything about Manson or Jones being serial killers themselves. I only mentioned that there were others who were more than willing to do their bidding. All they had to do was tell them to do it. It's the equivalent of holding the gun while telling somebody else to pull the trigger.


My personal opinion of the Manson Family is that they were hardly serial killers.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:08 PM

Yes, but it was under his leadership and dictatorship that his followers carried out his orders/wishes.


Is Hitler a serial killer then?

auburngirl's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:09 PM


I never said anything about Manson or Jones being serial killers themselves. I only mentioned that there were others who were more than willing to do their bidding. All they had to do was tell them to do it. It's the equivalent of holding the gun while telling somebody else to pull the trigger.


My personal opinion of the Manson Family is that they were hardly serial killers.


What constitutes a serial killer? I mean, by definition?

auburngirl's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:09 PM


Yes, but it was under his leadership and dictatorship that his followers carried out his orders/wishes.


Is Hitler a serial killer then?


Hitler was just the Devil incarnate!

Mr_Music's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:10 PM
Edited by Mr_Music on Sun 08/09/09 01:10 PM
Did you miss the part where I said that I never said anything about Manson or Jones being serial killers themselves?

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:10 PM
Serial killers commit their crimes in specific ways. There is a pattern to what they do.


Quietman_2009's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:14 PM
manson was more of a mass murderer than a serial killer

Richard Ramirez was a serial killer

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:15 PM



I never said anything about Manson or Jones being serial killers themselves. I only mentioned that there were others who were more than willing to do their bidding. All they had to do was tell them to do it. It's the equivalent of holding the gun while telling somebody else to pull the trigger.


My personal opinion of the Manson Family is that they were hardly serial killers.


What constitutes a serial killer? I mean, by definition?


A serial killer is a person who murders three or more people over a period of more than 30 days, with a 'cooling off' period between each murder, and whose motivation for killing is largely based on psychological gratification.

Manson was not a serial killer, his family was just told what to do by him thus they weren't really serial killers either.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:15 PM

Did you miss the part where I said that I never said anything about Manson or Jones being serial killers themselves?



(humbly bowing) yes I did.

prisoner's photo
Sun 08/09/09 01:24 PM



Yes, but it was under his leadership and dictatorship that his followers carried out his orders/wishes.


Is Hitler a serial killer then?


Hitler was just the Devil incarnate!
Hitler was a political leader who rose to power because of his charisma. After World War 1,Germany was 'down and out'. The German people followed a charismatic man to the gates of Hell and their own destruction. In 2009 America,it seems as if history is repeating itself. be seeing you