Abra your outlook on things are sick, and perverted

To top it off if you love and believe in God so much then WHY WOULD YOU
WANT TO BE SEPARATED FROM HIM? *

Abra this is one of those times I'm just going to wipe me feet at the
doorpost and walk away.

Yes, I see. You are all good Christians, but if somebody tells you he
has found his own way you can't stop at that. You just have to push and
push, claiming that your way is the right one.
AB has his own way, so has Abra, so have I, and so have others, but for
you it is just not enough, we are all wrong, because you have another
way. We are all very comfortable with our own way, so why do you try to
push us?
Is that really necessary?
Be happy that you have your way and leave us ours.
If you can't talk about belief without claiming yours is the only right
one, where is your tolerance?
Why do you have to pick on anybody that has a different way?

pagrby like it says in matthews dust those sandals off and keep moving
as sheep among wolves!

To all of you here today that are in Christ. I love you and look forward
to seeing you at the wedding supper. To those here that do not accept
Christ and are doomed to eternal damnation, I love you too and pray that
the truth will come upon you and you will be saved. Have a great day
everyone.

Invisible it applogize if it seems we're picking. That's not just and
not Godly.

Instead of us answering the question repeatedly can you tell us what is
your way?

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What do you believe God wants? Also do you believe in salvation with out
the savior, Jesus Christ?

Sorry, not all of you of course, but still a good number.
I have seen some that have been very tolerant and to them I
apologize

It's out of our love for you invisible. W don't want for you to perish
into eternal hell. WE LOVE YOU!!!! that's our only agenda.

So I appologize if it seems like we are picking. This is a vital part of
the faith and is essential for a believer.

i SEE NO ONE TRYING TO FORCE ANYTHING ON YOU, INVISIBLE YOU DO ALOT
TWISTING OF THINGS.
I walk away last week of talking to you.

Wonderman wrote:
“Abra the reason you do not feel remorse because you do not know Christ
that simple”

But I thought that by your own testimony were felt miserable before you
accepted Christ as your savior. Many of your poems state how totally
unworthy you felt before you found Christ. In fact, all of your poems
are a testimony to how great you feel now that Christ is a part of your
life.

Those kinds of testimonies aren’t very attractive to people who already
feel good about life and feel that they already are filled with the love
of god.

I’m totally confident in the love of god. There is no doubt in my mind
whatsoever that god loves me unconditionally and totally accepts me.

So from that point of view I have nothing to be ‘saved’ from.

Also, the reason I don’t feel remorse is because I don’t do things that
I need to feel remorse about. I’m not about to feel remorse merely
because I’m a human being and I’m less than PERFECT. That would be
absurd for me to feel remorse about that. It’s not my fault I’m a human
being. Why should feel remorse about something that I’m not even
responsible for? I didn’t create myself!

KariZman?
Label him a fool and ignore the jems with his lessons.
You would judge one of the greatest amoung you because you can not see
his lessons?

If the question keeps being asked it is not because he did not
understand your answers. Nay he knows the answer! It is because your
answer was unsufficient. An answer of words alone is an answer with no
substance.

My future is assured. I will not be in the 1st heaven for I have seen
it and beyond. I will be in the heaven of the Father in the power of
the Glory that is his. Until I am there I will continue in this life to
speak as he has instructed me to speak.

Wonderman move on to another topic.

Abra just because wonderman voices how he feels in his poems that does
not reflect everyone. I will say that he loves the Lord.

Let him express his inviduality

Goodbye everyone I'm done. LOL we can go on for years

Wonderman, your intolerance is incredible, you can't accept that people
have their own ways of doing things.

This salvation is not so clear cut.

I notice people have said you don't have to understand or explain God to
be saved, just believe. That's good because as people get older they
forget certain things. It would be terrible to be saved and then go to
hell because you forgot some detail.

I notice conflict about the question homoiousios vs homousios as being
important here. Either God and the Son are the same, or they are like
one another yet not the same essense. now if you are mistaken and you
pledge all your faith to the incorrect one, what can you expect in the
way of salvation?

I am ordinarily distrustful of any religion that dictates my behavior
should be a certain way and that if it is not that there will or might
be eternal hell or perdition waiting at the end of the road.

I like the bright side of religion, that heaven beckons to those with
faith. I have the feeling that if you are looking for salvation and
living your life in such a manner as to gain salvation, that somehow in
that endeavor you will find your desire.

Pride in salvation? Is that anything like scorn for those who are not
saved? Hypocrisy is in there somewhere I think. Piety is ordinarily
considered to be closely associated with humility. So there goes the
pride in salvation if you are following the trend.

It has nothing to do with that believe what you want , it had to do with
twisting my words red has her and we talk off and on she will vouch for
that it just I do not like my words twisted.

Thank you philosopher, I think that sums it up

You would call us wolves?

As you flash your teeth of damnation and hell at us and nip at our heels
to herd us in to the fold.

I am not a lamb.

I am not a wolf.

I am the son of man.

Nor am I your adversary. Your adversary is amoung you and you see it
not.

Peace be with you all. Thank you for the thread Invisible it was a qood
question.

For those of you that decided to leave this thread Peace go with you.