Topic: Saved
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Mon 05/21/07 10:08 AM
I just wanted to share my testimony with you. I can relate to different
people telling me things.

What I see in this post that there are many users that agree that Jesus
is the way to the Father in Heaven and essentially gave us our
salavation in the power of God.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:11 AM
Good job bored. Praise God!!

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Mon 05/21/07 10:11 AM
This is so awesome, we have 4 pages on this now!!

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Mon 05/21/07 10:11 AM
Abadabra are you saying that you are not saved? Therefore, you are
clearly stating that you deny Christ as savior.

Let's communicate WITHOUT the word "religion" right now. That is the
easiest thing to do. I believe that word is a worldy term to categorize
believers. I don't use that word.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:14 AM
I heard it described this way bored. Religion is mans way of reaching
out and up to God. God's way is reaching out and down to us through
Christ. AMEN?

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Mon 05/21/07 10:15 AM
Abra the reason you do not feel remorse because you do not know christ
that simple
Another I appreciate what Christ has done for me, no shame.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:18 AM
I agree rproman. Normally people perceive the term religon alone as a
word to describe ALL beliefs (buddhists, taoism, jewish, muslim,
catholic) They categorize all of that in one.

I want to separate what we believe from that categorizing.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:20 AM
Well, I think that before I can accept Christ as my ‘savoir’ it makes
sense to ask what I’m being saved from?

It’s a simple question I think.

How can I be ‘saved’ if I don’t even know what it is that I’m being
‘saved’ from?

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Mon 05/21/07 10:24 AM
SIN, It doesn't mean that we stop sinning either, but to love Christ in
this form of submission causes us to sin less and then his sacrifice
takes affect nd washes us from the continuing sin. But i get the feeling
you really don't want what is offered so good luck to you also.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:26 AM
For me being saved means that I get to spend the rest of my life in a
relationship with God. When I die I will spend eternity with Jesus and
God.
Death without being saved is separation from Christ and God. He is the
creator and He is the one that I want to spend eternity with.
Some of the last statements in the Bible are that Satan and all of the
ones who did not believe are thrown into a lake of fire. I personally
believe I am being "saved" from that and a life of separation from God.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:29 AM
rproman wrote:
“But i get the feeling you really don't want what is offered so good
luck to you also.”

I already feel confident in god’s love. And I already believe that I’m
immortal through reincarnation. I believe that this is everyone’s fate
no matter how they believe.

But since Christianity seems to DOMINATE these forums, then it only
makes sense to asks questions about why people feel so compelled to
believe in it.

I still never got an answer to what we are being ‘saved’ from?

It’s is just the free ticket to everlasting life that everyone is
shooting for here?

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Mon 05/21/07 10:30 AM
Abra not only once but multiple times we answered this question on how
to be saved and what you are being saved from.

If you go back to right when you came on later. There were tons of posts
that already answered that.

So many posts that indeed a new reader will be lost because this
question is repeated.

KariZman anyone? That's what he does. He burns the question out and
stumps into the ground without reading answers and understanding. Not
everyone has to be in CONSENSUS for this to happen.

I will say that in this thread it is fortunate that majority believers
support the same claim. Jesus is the KEY to the father in heaven.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:31 AM
So there's no need to repeat and beat it into the ground. We answered
that.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:31 AM
Gods way of reaching man is with the holy spirit.

He does not need to reach down. Though some see him not he is IN you.
All of you.

Religion is the ritualist practice of worship. If you follow a church
that has doctrine and ritual you are following a religion.

Faith is reaching out to God and being as he wants you to be, everyting
that you are.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:32 AM
Good one pagrby, Also id like to add before someone says, how could God
do such a terrible thing. God didn't do it as much as you would have
done it to yourself, in fact ifyou go to hell it's because you chose it.
You refused Christ so, if you refuse Chrit,how can yu expect to be with
him and God in the hereafter? After all Isn't Gd only honoring YOUR
desicion not to fellowship with him?

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Mon 05/21/07 10:34 AM
rproman good point lol

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Mon 05/21/07 10:34 AM
exactly rproman

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Mon 05/21/07 10:35 AM
Pagrby wrote:
“I am being "saved" from that and a life of separation from God.”

According to John 3:16 a person won’t have everlasting life if they
don’t believe in Jesus.

So it would be impossible to have a life of separation from God.

Instead you would just ‘perish’ and not have everlasting life.

The idea of perishing does not bother me personally. In fact, in some
ways it’s more inviting than having to live for eternity. I wonder if
there is an option to chose to perish at some later date if you decide
that you don’t like heaven all that much.

If there isn’t is seems to me that it would be a huge gamble to go
there. What if you get there and then decide you don't like it? You
might then be stuck there for all eternity!

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Mon 05/21/07 10:37 AM
One can only hope LOL

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Mon 05/21/07 10:38 AM
abra do you not understand if you perish. That means HELL for eternity?

Do you not see that? You think being in agony with the enemy for
eternally is a picnic?