Topic: Saved
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Mon 05/21/07 09:20 AM
invisible,

If you ever feel that God's law is unfair or too difficult to live by,
that's because it is. It is impossible for mankind to please the
perfect and holy Father. It is because God loves us, regardless of our
flaws, that he sent his only Son to forgive us our sins. The Law is
meant to break you, to humble you, so that you will accept Jesus as your
savior.

Jacob (aka Israel) was strong, smart and determined. He didn't rely on
God. God blessed (that's right, blessed) Jacob with a bad hip. So that
Jacob HAD to depend on God, rather than himself. When compared to
eternity, mortal suffering is as nothing. Jacob praised God for the
blessing of his bad hip, because he had survived things he couldn't have
survived otherwise, if he had only relied on himself.

If you humble yourself before God and submit your will to Jesus, Jesus
will heal what is broken and give you strength, fullfillment and peace
like you have never known.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:22 AM
We do not all have it adenture. Can somebody help here? I don't remember
where it is written except that it's i the new testament-We are all his
creation, be we are not all his children.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:23 AM
AdventureBegins,

The Holy Spirit was only given to select people in the Old Testament.
When Samson was filled with the Holy Spirit, he was the strongest man to
ever live. When Elijah was filled with the Holy Spirit, he was
incredibly fast. It wasn't until Jesus's sacrifice for us, that God has
poured out his Holy Spirit onto all who accept Jesus as their savior.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:25 AM
rproman,

I think this is the scripture you are thinking of.

John 8:44
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Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will
do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of
his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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Mon 05/21/07 09:28 AM
Thank you spider, no that's not it. It does come to the same result, but
the way i wrote it was almost word for word
Thank you brother.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:30 AM
I submit my will to God.

He does not humble me he lifts me up.

Why would I need to submitt to the son when I am of the father?

In glory I walk. By glory my life moves.

I do not need to be 'saved'.

For the glory of God is in my life.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:30 AM
I do understand all this, but can really ANYBODY claim that his
interpretation of the bible is the only right one?
If there are so many out there reading the bible, all of them
belief in Christ, but so many of them interpreting different what they
read, is there really only one right interpretation?
And who can claim his is the only right one?

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Mon 05/21/07 09:30 AM
Abracadabra your view points are very unsual to me.

"If they are being saved from a life of sin then why are there so many
sinless people out there who have never been saved? Note: By ‘sinless’ I
simply mean that sin is not negatively affecting their lives, they are
happy and content and have done thing that burdens them with serious
feelings of guilt. (i.e. they have no need to have any burdens ‘lifted’)

Sinless means completely WITHOUT sin. Everyone sins! Even you. *The only
sinless person was Christ.* Regardless if you say you're affected or
not, everyone sins. You confess, repent as a believer.

Where did you get that information from? O_o

Christ redeems us from an eternal and spiritual death (hell). If it
wasn't for Christ we wouldn't have a chance to receive eternal life and
reconciliation with God. Sin started with Adam but ended with Christ.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:33 AM
Invisble you are so true when you say there are many interpretations of
the Bible. So many drastic ones that it is truly confusing.

That's what the Holy Spirit is for, aka the "counselor." Basically the
Holy Spirit can be a spiritual guide.

The BEST thing for anyone who wants to read the word is to pray for
spiritual guidance then read the Bible yourself. Another options is go
to someone of the church you trusts.

God is all about faith and love. To experience him you have to want to
believe in your heart.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:34 AM
What you will find invisible is that many of us are in perfect harmony
with our interpretation. Yes, sometimes there are minor differences in
belief of what the ible says. That is the small stuff. The big stuff is
Christ our savior from eternal damnation period. all the rest will be
settled later.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:35 AM
John 3:5

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born of
water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That
which is born of flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is
spirit.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:35 AM
The holy spirit is in us all.

When a person becomes 'filled' with it is the point at which they allow
it to move them.

All have it. Few allow it to move them.

As we are in the Image of God His spirit is within us for it is a part
of his Image.

and spider I am not of the children of god. No I am proud to say I am
the son of man.

As god created me so Iam.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:36 AM
pagrby has excellent posts. Thankyou so much for everything you say. You
to Spider :)

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Mon 05/21/07 09:37 AM
Adventure, if you truly submit your will to God,than what is the problem
with submitting to Christ? God said audibly to the crowd when John
Baptised Jesus, This is my beloved son with whom i am well pleased. If
God the father was well pleased, then that means what Jesus taught, to
follow him and submit to him IS GOD"S WILL.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:37 AM
rproman great posts and so true lol.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:38 AM
Isn't it God who has the final say on who is "saved" and who is not? At
least that is what it says in the Bible...

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Mon 05/21/07 09:41 AM
Thank you bored, see invisible? we are not known to each other, people
from all over and we are in harmony. That is only acheived through the
Holy Spirit.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:41 AM
Yes Suzy, that is what I think, too.
So anybody telling me I'm not saved because I am who I am would be
prejudiced?

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Mon 05/21/07 09:43 AM
Adventure I, and i'm sure many of us here "respectfully" disagree.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:44 AM
invisible,

boredchick07 has given you very good advice, I couldn't say it better
and I wouldn't try.

rproman is absolutely right. Most differences between Christian
churches are minor. We do have our cults, but we have the Word and Holy
Spirit to help us decern the truth.

The best person to interpret the Word for you, is you. With the
guidance of the Holy Spirit, you will find truths that aren't in mere
words. Scriptures will convey ideas that the words don't contain. You
will be moved to tears at the shear love that God has for you, because
as you read about it in the Bible, the Holy Spirit will confirm it in
your heart. Please, give it a chance. Humble yourself and ask for God
to reveal the truth to you.