Topic: Saved
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Mon 05/21/07 09:44 AM
I am back and barbie you are right jesus says many will come in my name
and I will say I know you not Jesus does decide who is saved and who is
not.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:46 AM
If you say to the world Invisible,"I don't believe in or accept Christ
as my Lord and savior and surrender my life to him, Then i can say with
sureness thatyou wouldn't be saved. Christ said, not me, "No man comes
to the father except by me"

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Mon 05/21/07 09:46 AM
Kens_Barbie,

Jesus is the Judge. Jesus will decide who is saved and who isn't.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:48 AM
Adventure, read John 5:19-45

John 5:23 says That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour
the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father
which has sent Him.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:48 AM
Gods will for you perhaps.

As He moves me so will I walk.

As He tells me so shall I speak.

Why would I go back upon my trail and accept the lesser branch of the
tree of life when I am already part of the Most Great Branch.

God also is pleased with me. He has not asked me to follow upon the
word of the Son. He fills my being with the word of the father.

My cup was clensed inside and out when I went to him. He has filled it
to the measure it can be filled. I see the truth that is Christ. I see
the Glory that is The Father. With the Truth is the Father made
manifest. By the Father is my life lived. From the Father comes my
lessons and through the Father have I become greater than I was.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:48 AM
*To key to salvation is to be born again and accepting Christ as your
savior. Then comes your walk where you basically cut out sin daily. It's
a daily battle because no one is perfect

Without that..well you know the rest.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:51 AM
Good luck to you adventure.....

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Mon 05/21/07 09:54 AM
exactly border

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 05/21/07 09:55 AM
I have full honor for the Son.

I have faith in the father.

Because I do not take up the cross of the Son does not mean I do not
honor him and his word.

As he was so I am.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:58 AM
Adventure, Gods will for us is ultimately the same. It is to be saved
and to live eternally with Him. When man sinned we lost our one on one
connection to God. Since we do have sin in us we are unable to look
directly at the face of God. We had to have someone that we could look
at and God sent Him. Jesus is the only way to God. I do truly hope
that you will explore this through your Bible and see the truth.

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Mon 05/21/07 09:59 AM
If you told your son to die for "me" and i didn't accept him at his word
and for his sacrifice, how would you feel towards me in not giving your
son the credit due him?

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Mon 05/21/07 09:59 AM
There are so many different kinds of faith, and I do believe that
accepting the faith of others is one of the traits that everybody should
show. At the end of the day, there is only one God, so why is it so
difficult for some to accept that we all have to find our own ways?

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Mon 05/21/07 10:01 AM
Invisible that I can't answer lol. Why people don't accept others to
find their own ways. That's an individual thing.

I will say there is ONE God. The serious point is which God will you
choose?

I respect others beliefs and religious affiliations but I know who my
God is!

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Mon 05/21/07 10:03 AM
Because dear, The "other" faiths don't accept Christ as who he claims
himself to be, so, having said that, There are only 2 ways to view
Christ. One, he is raving lunatic, or, He is exactly who he claims to
be.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:04 AM
There is only one God, only the paths to him are different for all of
us, mostly due to experiences we have made during out life.
I do not believe that there is only one right way and that is where my
problem is. There are too many people telling me that their way is the
only one.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:04 AM
In the end invisible all of us who are Christians and do believe know
that you do have to find your own way. I pray as I'm sure all the
others do that you find what will ultimately lead you to the Truth.
None of us mean any harm to anyone searching for their own way. We are
lead though to gently lead you to the Truth.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:05 AM
Boredchick wrote:
“Sinless means completely WITHOUT sin. Everyone sins! Even you. *The
only sinless person was Christ.* Regardless if you say you're affected
or not, everyone sins. You confess, repent as a believer.”

You miss my point Boredchick. I’m saying that there are many people who
do not feel ‘burdened’ by sin. So they feel no need to be saved from
this ‘burden’.

You’re looking at it solely from the point of view of what the Bible
says is required to be ‘saved’.

I’m looking at it from the point of view of why a person would even
bother to care about being ‘saved’.

What are they being saved from?

Death? That’s not big deal. Only people who fear death would need to
be saved. People who don’t mind the thought of dying wouldn’t be
concerned about it then.

I’m asking why people feel they need to be ‘saved’ from.

I mean, I hear some people praising Jesus and how they have come into
their lives and lifted the burden of their sins and have made their
lives so much better. Well, I think it’s obvious that those people were
very miserable before they were ‘saved’. They were burdened with sin
and somehow felt ‘unworthy’.

However, everyone who has not been saved doesn’t feel that way. I don’t
feel burdened by sin or that I am unworthy of anything. On the contrary
I feel very lighthearted, and free from any guilt, and I also feel that
god loves me. I feel completely at peace with god. I can’t imagine any
need to be ‘saved’. What would I be ‘saved’ from? Death?

I personally don’t believe that god will abandon me just because I don’t
believe in an ancient archaic superstitious religion. God gave me a
rational mind. Why would god require me to believe in archaic
irrational superstitions to be ‘saved’?

That makes absolutely no sense to me at all. Why would God give me a
rational mind and then require that I believe in an ancient irrational
superstitious religion in order to be ‘saved’?

What’s the rationale behind that. I simple don’t believe that God is
irrational. Surely god is rational.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:07 AM
Pagrby, Thank you for your softness.Yes there are many paths invisible
because of life, except that eventually all those paths funnel down to
Christ. He is the one last road to take.

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Mon 05/21/07 10:07 AM
I understand you Invisible. LOL it can be very confusing.

Sorry.

I do know when I was seeking God in salvation that He guided me through
the Holy Spirit. I personally grew up in the church but had no
relationship and not yet born again until my freshman year in college.

There were people and churches telling me by water baptism alone I would
be saved. There is another church that emphasizes speaking in tongues
will send you to your highest fulmillment with the father.

You see God delivered me from confusion and lies to the ultimate truth.

Look

Truth------> Jesus Sacrifice --> reconciles man with God and redeems.

Note: LOL I thought it was a cute drawing

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Mon 05/21/07 10:08 AM
I have seen the truth.

Gods will for you is that you be saved aye then Christ saved you.

Gods will for me is different. Gods will for me is that I speak as he
says speak.

If you don't understand this it is quite simple.

When God says speak thus I speak. His will is the greater.

If he says jump I jump for his will I accept.

Therefore I speak though some of you say to me 'lier' and 'evil' and 'I
rebuke thee' as He has told me you will. Still He says speak and I
speak as he has told me.

What you think of me matters not. That I do as God wills me do must BE.

Peace must BE or none will survive. Even though peace BE still will
some perish.