May i ask of you please ?

How much of what the media tells us,

do you Really & truly believe?

I have been told by Soldiers & Veterans also ,

to not watch or read or listen to the news basically

& that the media only tell us what they want us to hear


So i don't believe everything i hear or read & never really have


I read between the lines, observe people

& see if their actions ,match up with their words

The media has an agenda. This was my struggle. While I am against today's version of war, we have done much good and much damage.

The media, will speak only to your hearts, which, in turn, polutes the mind.

Logically i am against the war, mainly because i see no benefit in it for us. But i have seen people pleased with the amount of freedom we have provided.

thank you ..i appreciate you & your honest opinions very much

"If i were to choose between a government without newspapers, and newspapers without government, i would nto hesitate to choose the latter." - Thomas Jefferson

Amen ..thank you ...that is soo good & very appropriate



Ahhh Our awesome Founding Father <<< Thomas Jefferson >>>

I specifically addressed this request


to Our Brave Military & to our Awesome Veterans


because if Anyone knows what Really is going on ,


< it is You > , :


not the civilians & not politicians




Dare Greatly



It is not the critic who counts;

nor the man who points out how the strong man stumbled,

or where the doer of deeds could have done better.

The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena;

whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood;

who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again

because there is no effort without error and shortcomings;

who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions;

who spends himself in a worthy cause;

who at best knows in the end,

the triumph of high achievement;

and who at worst, if he fails,

at least fails while daring greatly;

so that his place shall never be

with those cold and timid souls

who know neither victory nor defeat.

~ Theodore Roosevelt (1858–1919)

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/firemansam/552/eagle.html



WHERE IS THE EAGLE GONE ?

A letter written by Chief Seattle

The Great Chief in Washington sends word
that he wishes to buy our land.
How can you buy or sell the sky,
the warmth of the land. The idea is strange to us.
Yet we do not own the freshness of the air
or the sparkle of the water.
How can you buy from us?
Every part of this earth is sacred to my people.
We know that white man does not understand our ways.
One portion of the land is the same to him as the next,
for he is a stranger who comes in the night
and takes from the land whatever he needs.
The earth is not his brother but his enemy,
and when he has conquered it he moves on.
He leaves his fathers' graves
and his children's birthright is forgotten.


There is no quiet place in the white man's cities.
No place to hear the leaves of spring
or the rustle of insects wings.

But perhaps because I am savage and do not understand...
the clatter only seems to insult the ears.
And what is there to life,
if a man cannot hear the lovely cry of the whippoorwill
or the argument of the frog around the pond at night?

The whites too, shall pass..perhaps sooner than other tribes.

Continue to contaminate your bed and you will one night suffocate
in your own waste.
When the buffalo are all slaughtered,
the wild horses all tamed,
the secret corners of the forest heavy with the scent of many men,

and the view of the ripe hills blotted by talking wires.
Where is the thicket gone? Where is the eagle gone?
And what is it to say goodbye to the swift and the hunt,
the end of living and the beginning of survival?


Letter written by Chief Seattle to President Franklin Pierce, 1855.

As a U.S.Navy Vietnam Veteran and true AMERICAN, I believe absolutely NOTHING that is on the TV news or the newspapers.
There was a time when I was very PROUD of being an American but in just a few short months it has become an embarrasment ands not just to me, but to millions of Americans.

I gave up TV and newspapers months ago. It feels great. I learn daily more than I ever could have by some talking head on TV. Or Propaganda by politically biased news print.

Am Talk radio sometimes.

No more cell phone either..that feels friggin great. Freedom

I use the Internet as I choose...that is why I still have it. I do my own research.

Thank you sooo soo much ah you are sooo cool


I see so many people being led like sheep to the slaughter

they believe everything they hear & see on the news

they all are identical brainless clones of one another

just spouting only what they hear & see


& Nothing of what they think or feel deep inside


if they Even think or feel or see something

other than what they are told to think or see or feel


and very few of us are even capable, it seems

of looking outside of the box < so to speak >

& to see things in a different light & from a different perspective

Being in a war is different things for different people.
Some see it one way others see it another.
Don't believe everything the
media tells ya, don't believe
everything the generals tell ya.
Read all you can and
form your own opinion.

I have never owned a cell phone

although on rare occasion one would come in handy


& I have not had a TV for much of my life

it is so corrupt & filthy & sooo demonic

from much of the sick programming to the sick commercials

& I feel that it is like big brother in that book 1984


keeping tabs on us & trying to make us all conform

they want us all to grow like boxwood hedges

you can't grow too tall or too full no we must not have that

because then they wouldn't know what to do with us


so they want us young & old to be on their antidepressants


or whatever they have on the market now to suppress us

but i refuse to give in to that mentality


they don't want us to grow any taller or any fuller than they can control

and woe to the people who have the intestinal fortitude

to be original & stand alone & break away from their mold

Ohh thank you soo much Dear Man for stopping by

i need to constantly remember that not all those who are in the Military

& not all who were in the Military are truthful or have the same code of ethics

but for the most part i feel that i can trust the majority of Military Men & Women

& the kind & wise messages you leave are engraved deeply upon my heart


& i will hold them near & very dear to my heart


to serve as a compass & a gauge for truth always

Rapunzel, this is a serious question, not a dig. You said some military live by a code of ethics, did you mean the rest do not, or what? Who's version of ethics are you referring to?

I believe soldiers and vets are not the only ones that have contributed to our freedoms. I think when you elevate one group over another it can be dangerous and short sighted, despite the fact that soldiers and vets of course deserve our respect for their service.

Many many civilians contribute to our freedoms in many ways, the military is only one. Even everyday people contribute in their own ways.

I also believe truth is everywhere including in the media, you just have to dig for it a bit more now.

We seem to vilify everything these days. We are suspicious to the point we stop listening.

Yes media is bias. Of course it is because it represents what each group wants and cares about. And as human nature would have it, some will manipulate the message to gain points for their agenda, and some may go so far as to distort the message to prevent what may very well be good for our communities. It's when one group wants it all with no compromise that it gets ugly.

Driven, I don't know what you watch on TV, but not all media speaks only to our hearts, though I do know what you mean. I am actually more fascinated by logic and mental stimulation. I too am logically against the war, but because of 'who' benefits. But there's another side of me that isn't quite clear if it's not justified in other ways. Of course as someone else said today war is big business as well and that disturbs me frankly.

I also have my days where nothing makes much sense, and I have to take a break from all of it.

There are plenty of examples where the media gets is right, but we can't know about them if we have turned off and tuned out.

But even with the bias and the insanity we can still consider what is being said and decide for ourselves.

Put the criticle eye on the news... Ratings pay their salary as do commercials.

When you see 'commercials' that are about a current national or world situation...

See them for what they are. A deliberate attempt to sway public opinion... Cause WE are the ACTUAL defenders of the constitution and they know it.

During the early stages of the 'bailouts' I actually saw congress persons showing fear at the public response.

I agree with watching everything with a critical eye. And I understand about ratings etc. But the public also can demand what they want to see as well, and the media does respond. Why do we have all the programming that is mindless? Because people demand it, so if media gives people what they want, they get their ratings that way too. Again I don't' know what you guys watch specifically but I do see a lot of great things on TV. I might not agree with all of it but many things are informative and critical as well.

I guess I just don't see as much negative because I don't watch long when it's negative and mind numbingly divisive and shallow.

Oh well I am tired now and starting to doze off. Night all.

Hi there Adventure Begins

Thanks so much for coming by
and for saying the things you did
...I really really appreciate that ///

Cause my hope is to be able to really see things better
through the eyes of a person who has been in the Service
& has been exposed to the way things are in the Military
& what it takes to keep war at bay and do what they can
to insure that wars stay on foreign shores

& a chance to view a little bit of life with new eyes
from a completely different much more realistic perspective
much clearer than most civilians have ///


and basically that is all i need to know

I get weary listening to the endless news & talk show channels
& everybody's take on everything
I have soo many Other other things
that i want & need to to do
Certain things are obvious to me
& there's N need to keep rehashing it