Topic: Congress & The President Kick Tobacco's Butts
FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 06/21/09 05:59 PM

Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".



Wait until the government starts meddling in fast food, soft drinks, and other odds and ends. This is just a portion, they're taking control slowly but surely and we are becoming a capitalist nation. Say goodbye to your democracy, voting? Yep, that will go as well. Eventually we will be no better off than any other dictatorship.

That's what your forefathers fought for, shed blood for...my freedom, and your freedom alike. They already attack those that speak out against them, Peace Fresno, common citizens off baseless charges. They are taking the power from the people and giving it to private corporations, taking power and giving it to people that do not know what to do with it. This will create problems in the long-run, I know you don't see it now, but you will...when they start taking things away from everyone.

We can't lead this nation segregated, hell, we can hardly lead it united which all but lasted about four years. We forget too easily, then we start enacting ridiculous laws to please the people that pay the most, give power to companies that paid the most. It's been happening for the last eight years with Bush, as far as I can see Obama is slowly doing the exact same thing.

Geckgo's photo
Sun 06/21/09 06:13 PM

For all those who continue to smoke:

The curtain is falling.




I hope you feel better about yourself for protecting the universe from all the dangerous smokers, you proselytizing, simple-minded sentient.

Keep chipping away at various freedoms and making laws until life no longer has any simple pleasures. Next thing you know they will take sugar and salt, saying that it kills cardiac victims.

suncandy25's photo
Sun 06/21/09 06:14 PM
Edited by suncandy25 on Sun 06/21/09 06:45 PM


Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".



Wait until the government starts meddling in fast food, soft drinks, and other odds and ends. This is just a portion, they're taking control slowly but surely and we are becoming a capitalist nation. Say goodbye to your democracy, voting? Yep, that will go as well. Eventually we will be no better off than any other dictatorship.

That's what your forefathers fought for, shed blood for...my freedom, and your freedom alike. They already attack those that speak out against them, Peace Fresno, common citizens off baseless charges. They are taking the power from the people and giving it to private corporations, taking power and giving it to people that do not know what to do with it. This will create problems in the long-run, I know you don't see it now, but you will...when they start taking things away from everyone.

We can't lead this nation segregated, hell, we can hardly lead it united which all but lasted about four years. We forget too easily, then we start enacting ridiculous laws to please the people that pay the most, give power to companies that paid the most. It's been happening for the last eight years with Bush, as far as I can see Obama is slowly doing the exact same thing.


It's been going on for alot longer than the Bush days, It's just more noticable as of late.
Money is the reason for the tougher drinking and driving laws also. It has nothing to do with saving us from outselves.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 06/21/09 06:22 PM

It's been going for alot longer than the Bush days, It's just more noticable as of late.
Money is the reason for the tougher drinking and driving laws also. It has nothing to do with saving us from outselves.


that I disagree with. no one should be drinking and driving and the laws NEED to be tougher to save lives from idiots that don't seem to care

no photo
Sun 06/21/09 06:25 PM


For all those who continue to smoke:

The curtain is falling.




I hope you feel better about yourself for protecting the universe from all the dangerous smokers, you proselytizing, simple-minded sentient.

Keep chipping away at various freedoms and making laws until life no longer has any simple pleasures. Next thing you know they will take sugar and salt, saying that it kills cardiac victims.


"proselytizing, simple-minded sentient".

Now that's good!


scttrbrain's photo
Sun 06/21/09 08:56 PM

Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".



Watch yer mouth gent. ALL OF THE ADDICTS??? Do you hear me whining about it? Addict here.........knowing the killing nature of the beast. Wishing to escape the reach of the poison.

Kat

no photo
Sun 06/21/09 08:58 PM
Gotcha Kat. Point well taken.

scttrbrain's photo
Sun 06/21/09 08:59 PM

Gotcha Kat. Point well taken.

flowerforyou

krupa's photo
Mon 06/22/09 05:02 AM

Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".



Why the hostility? Are you kidding?

Read back through what you write.....

How well do you take it when someone talks down to you?

Oh man...I would love to see the look on peoples faces if the Govt did the right thing and started taxing church tithes at the same ratess as tobbacco.....THAT would be a cash cow. Don't you think they should tax the church to use that money to help smokers quit Jim? I mean...they ARE all about saving the rest of us.

no photo
Mon 06/22/09 05:11 AM
yawwwwwwwn

first thing in the mornin and I got coffee AND cigarettes

mmm mmm mmm

DaveyB's photo
Mon 06/22/09 09:10 AM

I hope you feel better about yourself for protecting the universe from all the dangerous smokers, you proselytizing, simple-minded sentient.



There are things in this thread I do and don't agree with but that kind of name calling is uncalled for.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 06/22/09 10:53 AM
gotta say this....even though we may disagree and come to blows at times....at least we argue about good topics.

i love you guy tears

AdventureBegins's photo
Mon 06/22/09 11:55 AM

Oh...and I do believe it is all about the money...money that they would save trying to keep us alive by getting rid of them, they would save save save. Our smoking habits cost the government and non smoking citizens billions.

Kat

Not so... Our smoking habits earn the government millions (perhaps billions).

It is the only product in the united states of idiots that is taxed at more then the actual manufacture cost of the item.

Hi kat

franshade's photo
Mon 06/22/09 11:56 AM

gotta say this....even though we may disagree and come to blows at times....at least we argue about good topics.

i love you guy tears


cry baby tongue2

krupa's photo
Mon 06/22/09 08:15 PM
It is good to employ the "catch and release" program....want them to come back with better stuff next time.

Heads up kids....try harder...(but try being polite next time)

cabot's photo
Mon 06/22/09 08:24 PM


Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".



Why the hostility? Are you kidding?

Read back through what you write.....

How well do you take it when someone talks down to you?

Oh man...I would love to see the look on peoples faces if the Govt did the right thing and started taxing church tithes at the same ratess as tobbacco.....THAT would be a cash cow. Don't you think they should tax the church to use that money to help smokers quit Jim? I mean...they ARE all about saving the rest of us.


Don't worry Krupa, wait till they take away the bottled water. And Holy water.

scttrbrain's photo
Mon 06/22/09 08:43 PM
They can have my bottled water...I have already changed that. I have my reusable ones...it is sooo cool. They made a lot of money off me with all that bottled water. Not anymore.

Kat

krupa's photo
Mon 06/22/09 09:08 PM

They can have my bottled water...I have already changed that. I have my reusable ones...it is sooo cool. They made a lot of money off me with all that bottled water. Not anymore.

Kat




hahahahahahahahaha

Now THAT made me laugh!!!!! Exactly how much chlorinataed water do you believe can be filtered through half an ounce of carbon?

(more importantly, do you realize that the filtration process only happens under High levels of pressure?)

Sorry...I couldn't stop myself...( I operate and manage a hydrochemical containment unit)...enjoy that bottle...

no photo
Mon 06/22/09 09:12 PM
I have a water well that gives me great water (its all the sand out here that filters it really well)

I can't imagine people actually paying more for bottled water than they pay for gas. I dont get it

krupa's photo
Mon 06/22/09 09:26 PM
You would if you had the water I filter....

You would be suprized..

but, no matter...

as long as my friends are happy...I am good.