Topic: Congress & The President Kick Tobacco's Butts
Tone_11's photo
Sun 06/21/09 06:52 AM
Alcohol kills just about as many people as cigarettes yet it's on bilboards and tv commercials. Here in NY they have a policy of raising the price of cigarettes until smoking impoverishes them. The problem with that is that if you charge more for something will people really do it less. I remember gas 4 dollars a gallon. I didn't see a million people riding bikes to the grocery store. Yes cigarettes need more warnings...despite the fact that currently on every pack of cigarettes the surgeon general says all the bad stuff that can happen. If you think this will make a difference it's silly. If I told you the sandwich your about to eat has 40grams of fat....200 mg of cholesteral....I doubt you'd put it down and not eat and go make a tuna sandwich on wheat toast now would you. If you thought cigarettes weren't bad for you before this bill passed then you're clueless. Why doesn't the government stay focused on **** they can actually affect. Or if it's health stuff there worried about, why do we seem to have the laziest most out of shape kids and adults in the world.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 06/21/09 09:10 AM
again...it's just another way to get more tax money....nothing more.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sun 06/21/09 09:50 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Sun 06/21/09 10:16 AM
This is great and all, and while i do agree with them needing to report all chemicals to the FDA, i disagree that labeling them differently would make any difference. Nor would making "flavored" products illegal.

All you can do in a free society is inform and educate the population. This is all that should be done. If people want to self-destruct that is their problem, and their responsibility.

Then again, we don't really live in a free society do we?...

Anyhow, i must side with Rose on this as there are many way arounds these minor laws given to these companies. The government does love it's taxes though...

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 06/21/09 09:51 AM

This is great and all, and while i do agree with them needing to report al chemicals to the FDA, i disagree that labeling them differently would make any difference. Nor would making "flavored" products illegal.

All you can do in a free society is inform and educate the population. This is all that should be done. If people want to self-destruct that is their problem, and their responsibility.

Then again, we don't really live in a free society do we?...

Anyhow, i must side with Rose on this as there are many way arounds these minor laws given to these companies. The government does love it's taxes though...


drinks

how ya doing sunshine?

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sun 06/21/09 10:01 AM


This is great and all, and while i do agree with them needing to report al chemicals to the FDA, i disagree that labeling them differently would make any difference. Nor would making "flavored" products illegal.

All you can do in a free society is inform and educate the population. This is all that should be done. If people want to self-destruct that is their problem, and their responsibility.

Then again, we don't really live in a free society do we?...

Anyhow, i must side with Rose on this as there are many way arounds these minor laws given to these companies. The government does love it's taxes though...


drinks

how ya doing sunshine?


Doing rather well thank you.flowerforyou How you been?

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 06/21/09 10:02 AM
hanging in the. I was wondering what happened to my little bro on here

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sun 06/21/09 10:16 AM

hanging in the. I was wondering what happened to my little bro on here


Been trying to rack up my hospital hours. BTW I'm not little!:tongue:

I see you've been busy in these forums...

flowerforyou

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 06/21/09 10:24 AM


hanging in the. I was wondering what happened to my little bro on here


Been trying to rack up my hospital hours. BTW I'm not little!:tongue:

I see you've been busy in these forums...

flowerforyou


pfft..I call my son my baby boy and he is 18...6'0....almost 200 lbs and size 13 shoes. but I'm still mom...and you are still my little bro :tongue:

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 06/21/09 03:22 PM

This is great and all, and while i do agree with them needing to report all chemicals to the FDA, i disagree that labeling them differently would make any difference. Nor would making "flavored" products illegal.

All you can do in a free society is inform and educate the population. This is all that should be done. If people want to self-destruct that is their problem, and their responsibility.

Then again, we don't really live in a free society do we?...

Anyhow, i must side with Rose on this as there are many way arounds these minor laws given to these companies. The government does love it's taxes though...


Ahhh, Drivin, nice to see you again bro!drinker

krupa's photo
Sun 06/21/09 04:11 PM
Still boils down to a minority of society (the zealots)..trying to impose thier will on another small section of society (the ones who don't do things "thier" way)

Stinks like religion to me.

Atlantis75's photo
Sun 06/21/09 04:30 PM

Still boils down to a minority of society (the zealots)..trying to impose thier will on another small section of society (the ones who don't do things "thier" way)

Stinks like religion to me.


or a smell of profit.

The government doesn't do things that aren't profitable. If there is a new regulation, somebody is about to make big bucks.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 06/21/09 05:10 PM
frustrated been saying that this whole time

suncandy25's photo
Sun 06/21/09 05:41 PM

Still boils down to a minority of society (the zealots)..trying to impose thier will on another small section of society (the ones who don't do things "thier" way)

Stinks like religion to me.


I'm right there with ya on the taxing of fast food and junk food. If I remember correctly Bill Clinton did empose what was known as the twinkie tax when he was the govenor of AK. He got alot of sh*t for that.

no photo
Sun 06/21/09 05:48 PM
Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 06/21/09 05:49 PM

Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".



ummmmm yes there is a new tax under BHO....it goes to SCHIP. the new bill is nothing but a waste of time

Winx's photo
Sun 06/21/09 05:50 PM

My dad smoked a pack a day for years. My brother hounded him to quit because he thought it would kill him. I never really payed much attention to it frankly.


We hounded my Dad to quit. Now he's slowly dying from COPD.

Winx's photo
Sun 06/21/09 05:52 PM

Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".



This addict wishes that nicotine was an illegal drug.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 06/21/09 05:53 PM


Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".



This addict wishes that nicotine was an illegal drug.


brb

no photo
Sun 06/21/09 05:56 PM


Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".



ummmmm yes there is a new tax under BHO....it goes to SCHIP. the new bill is nothing but a waste of time


We got you for 62 cents/pack back in Feb. That has nothing to do with this bill.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 06/21/09 05:59 PM



Interesting. All the addicts are united-and angry. And no one's taken away their smokes. This is not even a new tax. Tobacco will just be regulated like any other product that currently falls under FDA's domain. Why all the hostility? You can each still continue with your "suicide on the installment plan".



ummmmm yes there is a new tax under BHO....it goes to SCHIP. the new bill is nothing but a waste of time


We got you for 62 cents/pack back in Feb. That has nothing to do with this bill.



that was a separate bill...didn't say it was part of this one. just more money on research and package crap that is useless

now get me a beer laugh