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Topic: QUESTION RE: CHILD SUPPORT
franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:26 AM
SCENARIO:

Man and woman have child, get married, get divorced. (simple right)

Woman and man go to court and settle on X amt to be paid by man per pay period.

Man pays for less than a year. (ya still with me)

Child is now 23 yrs old.

Man is in arrears for over $50K (for child support)

Man thinks his debt should be forgiven as child is over 21.

What are your opinions or experiences with cases like these???

no photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:28 AM
Not that I want to get into the whole scenario BUT ... He is STILL on the hook for back payments of Child support.. the LAW is the law ..
Cheers
flowerforyou

ledi180's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:31 AM
Man is stupid.

He still owes the $$$$$$$$

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:31 AM
I happen to agree, he still owes.

Just looking for input from others on either side of the fence.

*update*
Man is remarried and has 2 other children (which are minors), does that change the fact that he owes for 1st child?

TxsSun's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:33 AM
He does legally still owe the money.

However, I would let it go. I NEVER have gotten child support and didn't really care. Yes, it would have been nice to have, but I survive without it.

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:34 AM

He does legally still owe the money.

However, I would let it go. I NEVER have gotten child support and didn't really care. Yes, it would have been nice to have, but I survive without it.


so you'd forgive debt, ok

LordCole's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:35 AM
Owing a debt is owing a debt...

50k? this guy should be in prison working it off in my opinion.

that number seems awfully low to me anyway if this person only paid support for six to ten months...

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:38 AM

Owing a debt is owing a debt...

50k? this guy should be in prison working it off in my opinion.

that number seems awfully low to me anyway if this person only paid support for six to ten months...


they both agreed on an amt - much lower than the court ordered amount to enable man to pay w/o hardship.

Ques, how would he work it off if he's placed in prison?

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:39 AM

Man is stupid.

He still owes the $$$$$$$$


laugh trying to keep it all in the 3rd person - to avoid personal comments laugh


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Thu 05/28/09 07:40 AM
said man owes it
said woman will never see it

it will cost 5k(lawyers) to get get 15k....



my opinion

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Thu 05/28/09 07:42 AM


Owing a debt is owing a debt...

50k? this guy should be in prison working it off in my opinion.

that number seems awfully low to me anyway if this person only paid support for six to ten months...


they both agreed on an amt - much lower than the court ordered amount to enable man to pay w/o hardship.

Ques, how would he work it off if he's placed in prison?


my ex-wife's first husband was in the same position. She offered to forgive the entire debt since the kid was over 21 (she just wanted to move on and forget it)

The attorney representing the state told her that was not one of her choices because he was in contempt of court for not paying it in the first place

ledi180's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:42 AM
Yes, stupid man still owes debt even if he decided to have 2 more children. That fact doesnt make him any less responsible for his adult child. That 50k could provide them with a car, a college education, a huge portion of a home. Nope, he's not off the hook. Not in my mind anyway.

tanyaann's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:43 AM
When I worked at my aunt and uncle's party store, there was a older lady, whose child was grow and in his 30s. She was coming to cash child support checks, because the state had finally caught up with him.



You know, I am split on the matter. I don't receive child support. I am owed approx. $10,000. I don't ever expect to see it.

In my case, if he would just sign off parental rights and disappear, I would waive the $10,000 he owes me.

LordCole's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:44 AM

I happen to agree, he still owes.

Just looking for input from others on either side of the fence.

*update*
Man is remarried and has 2 other children (which are minors), does that change the fact that he owes for 1st child?


Wow... this guy makes hard working folks and stand up Fathers look bad...

NO it should not change the fact that he owes... but he can still go around planting more seeds of failure... And we wonder why people are so jaded about the Father figures in their lives.

Sure you should not have to rely on "support" to make your way or take care of your Child, but damn why take the responsibility to Father a Child and not have some sense of moral obligation to make sure your offspring never want for anything. At least stand up and be a role model and set the standard to which your Child views others.

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:45 AM

said man owes it
said woman will never see it

it will cost 5k(lawyers) to get get 15k....


my opinion


those are better odds than playing lotto :smile:

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:48 AM



Owing a debt is owing a debt...

50k? this guy should be in prison working it off in my opinion.

that number seems awfully low to me anyway if this person only paid support for six to ten months...


they both agreed on an amt - much lower than the court ordered amount to enable man to pay w/o hardship.

Ques, how would he work it off if he's placed in prison?


my ex-wife's first husband was in the same position. She offered to forgive the entire debt since the kid was over 21 (she just wanted to move on and forget it)

The attorney representing the state told her that was not one of her choices because he was in contempt of court for not paying it in the first place


any idea how this would play out??

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:49 AM

Yes, stupid man still owes debt even if he decided to have 2 more children. That fact doesnt make him any less responsible for his adult child. That 50k could provide them with a car, a college education, a huge portion of a home. Nope, he's not off the hook. Not in my mind anyway.
flowerforyou

adj4u's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:50 AM
it would depend on state statutes

each state has time limits on how long a debt is kept on the books


some also think since the child is now an adult the money should go to the child

wrong

it goes to the mother unless they were receiving public assistance if that is the case the state takes what they feel is owed them

and if there is any left then the mother get that amount

but i do not know if child support has a time of forgiveness or not

LordCole's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:54 AM


Owing a debt is owing a debt...

50k? this guy should be in prison working it off in my opinion.

that number seems awfully low to me anyway if this person only paid support for six to ten months...


they both agreed on an amt - much lower than the court ordered amount to enable man to pay w/o hardship.

Ques, how would he work it off if he's placed in prison?


Paying with out hardship is the same as enabling mediocrity... I do not believe we should reinforce failure with the reward, he should be working harder.

My Father and Mother worked themselves to the bone as I grew up staying together through think and thin. My Father worked as a Guard at a local jail and as a Deputy Sheriff while my Mother worked as a buyer for a local retailer.

Paying with out hardship...

There are such things as work programs and plenty of men whom owe much less that are currently working it off in prison now.

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 07:54 AM

When I worked at my aunt and uncle's party store, there was a older lady, whose child was grow and in his 30s. She was coming to cash child support checks, because the state had finally caught up with him.

You know, I am split on the matter. I don't receive child support. I am owed approx. $10,000. I don't ever expect to see it.

In my case, if he would just sign off parental rights and disappear, I would waive the $10,000 he owes me.

hey sunshine, but as Quiet mentioned, is the custodial parent allowed/able to forgive debt?

Are people aware that just because your name appears on a child birth certificate, does not give you parental right, but does give you financial obligation?

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