Topic: QUESTION RE: CHILD SUPPORT
LordCole's photo
Thu 05/28/09 08:47 AM


I'm sorry I don't follow. What is the work program? How does placing man in jail bring her financial relief and reduce his debt? Does the state pay her for his incarceration?

Keep in mind - financial assistance was not used by woman/child.


While in prison the subject is charged a certain amount for each day they are incarcerated. (Three hots and a Cot lets say $60/day)

While in Prison subject joins a work program(oft times cleaning the highway at lets say $10/hr for 12 hours 6 days a week)

$720 /week then after deductions it comes out to $300/week in support repayment.

at $15600 per year the subject spends 40 months incarcerated and repays debt.


LordCole's photo
Thu 05/28/09 08:48 AM


meh... this subject got me fired up a little.

I'm sorry, not my intent flowerforyou


Nothing to apologize for... Dead Beats erk my nerves...

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 09:01 AM

well the govt is slow that is for sure

but i am not sure she can stop it

best thing i could suggest if she wants to would be to go to the district attorney and ask how to stop it

or even the attorney general of the state the order is based in


thanks smitten


franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 09:03 AM



I'm sorry I don't follow. What is the work program? How does placing man in jail bring her financial relief and reduce his debt? Does the state pay her for his incarceration?

Keep in mind - financial assistance was not used by woman/child.


While in prison the subject is charged a certain amount for each day they are incarcerated. (Three hots and a Cot lets say $60/day)

While in Prison subject joins a work program(oft times cleaning the highway at lets say $10/hr for 12 hours 6 days a week)

$720 /week then after deductions it comes out to $300/week in support repayment.

at $15600 per year the subject spends 40 months incarcerated and repays debt.




ahh now it makes sense - thanks

woman is paid by govt a portion of his earnings while incarcerated.

thanks

Citizen_Joe's photo
Thu 05/28/09 09:06 AM

SCENARIO:

Man and woman have child, get married, get divorced. (simple right)

Woman and man go to court and settle on X amt to be paid by man per pay period.

Man pays for less than a year. (ya still with me)



It's partially your fault. You tolerated it, and your kid probably suffered because of it. Yes, he still owes.

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 09:10 AM


SCENARIO:

Man and woman have child, get married, get divorced. (simple right)

Woman and man go to court and settle on X amt to be paid by man per pay period.

Man pays for less than a year. (ya still with me)



It's partially your fault. You tolerated it, and your kid probably suffered because of it. Yes, he still owes.


rofl rofl You are too muchrofl rofl

rofl please explain to me how it's partially my fault??? rofl

Scenario - is not mine rofl see what happens when one assumes rofl but it's ok :thumbsup: good try waving

FETTS61's photo
Thu 05/28/09 10:34 AM
i pay 500 a month. its my kid no problem. my problem is this scenario..... woman cheats, woman was granted custodial parent, man still pays 500 a month

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 10:36 AM

i pay 500 a month. its my kid no problem. my problem is this scenario..... woman cheats, woman was granted custodial parent, man still pays 500 a month


scenario does suck, I'm sorry, she cheated, not cool by any means.

but thought you were ok with paying child support? Does her cheating make you less apt to pay?

FETTS61's photo
Thu 05/28/09 10:39 AM


i pay 500 a month. its my kid no problem. my problem is this scenario..... woman cheats, woman was granted custodial parent, man still pays 500 a month


scenario does suck, I'm sorry, she cheated, not cool by any means.

but thought you were ok with paying child support? Does her cheating make you less apt to pay?
no she should not have been awarded custodial parent and she should be paying me child support, but the system is the systemflowerforyou

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 10:42 AM



i pay 500 a month. its my kid no problem. my problem is this scenario..... woman cheats, woman was granted custodial parent, man still pays 500 a month


scenario does suck, I'm sorry, she cheated, not cool by any means.

but thought you were ok with paying child support? Does her cheating make you less apt to pay?
no she should not have been awarded custodial parent and she should be paying me child support, but the system is the systemflowerforyou


Have heard and learned of horror stories regarding the family court system.

Can't comment as she was awarded primary custody, but you can always take her back to court and fight for custody - not sure how it would affect your child(ren).

lilith401's photo
Thu 05/28/09 10:42 AM
Edited by lilith401 on Thu 05/28/09 10:43 AM
Here is my opinion.

Child support is court ordered. No one can forgive the debt, other than the court. If he's not paying it, go ahead and send him to prison. He's not paying anyhow, what's the difference?

Child support is not about the ex, it is about the child. Infidelity is not a reason for divorce in most states, nor is it a reason why a parent should not get custody. IMO

tanyaann's photo
Thu 05/28/09 10:42 AM

My father split b4 i was born.Never met him or recieved a dime.Are you telling me I have monies owed?


I think you are past statue to limitations and possibly not included under new laws. (Also, it would be owed to your mother.)

franshade's photo
Thu 05/28/09 10:57 AM

Here is my opinion.

Child support is court ordered. No one can forgive the debt, other than the court. If he's not paying it, go ahead and send him to prison. He's not paying anyhow, what's the difference?

Child support is not about the ex, it is about the child. Infidelity is not a reason for divorce in most states, nor is it a reason why a parent should not get custody. IMO


hey sunshine. Agreed debt is owed, but if woman decides not to seek monies does the court on their own seek arrears?

lilith401's photo
Thu 05/28/09 10:59 AM
Oh yes.

It is a felony, and folks are prosecuted in Ohio for this all the time. There is a sign here in the county I work in.... it is filled with photos and under each it says their name and how much they owe, and when the warrant was issued.

It is a court order. The courts will persue it. There aer the occassional prosecutors who will call the parent and ask, and let it go if they don't cooperate. But why anyone would forgive the debt is beyond me, as they have no right to do so.

FETTS61's photo
Thu 05/28/09 11:01 AM


Here is my opinion.

Child support is court ordered. No one can forgive the debt, other than the court. If he's not paying it, go ahead and send him to prison. He's not paying anyhow, what's the difference?

Child support is not about the ex, it is about the child. Infidelity is not a reason for divorce in most states, nor is it a reason why a parent should not get custody. IMO


hey sunshine. Agreed debt is owed, but if woman decides not to seek monies does the court on their own seek arrears?


ive got a co worker that paid til his son was 30 because of arrears. he owed it and paid it.he didnt work for like 10 yrs so they waited.....LOL

no photo
Thu 05/28/09 11:25 AM


My father split b4 i was born.Never met him or recieved a dime.Are you telling me I have monies owed?


I think you are past statue to limitations and possibly not included under new laws. (Also, it would be owed to your mother.)
Thank you for taking the time to respond to that!flowerforyou

no photo
Thu 05/28/09 11:29 AM

Here is my opinion.

Child support is court ordered. No one can forgive the debt, other than the court. If he's not paying it, go ahead and send him to prison. He's not paying anyhow, what's the difference?

Child support is not about the ex, it is about the child. Infidelity is not a reason for divorce in most states, nor is it a reason why a parent should not get custody. IMO


that was what the state lawyer (New Mexico) told my ex. that the money was to compensate her for the time and money she provided under hardship to cover his missing half

they suspended his drivers license and put liens against everything he owned. he couldn't buy or sell anything without the state taking the money

Mr_Music's photo
Thu 05/28/09 11:34 AM
It's funny to me when "scenarios" like this get written out, or even spoken about....the sterotypical assumption that it's going to be the man (father) who pays.

It's as bad as watching cop shows, and the the cops are always trying to "get the guy who (insert crime here)".

no photo
Thu 05/28/09 11:42 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Thu 05/28/09 11:42 AM

It's funny to me when "scenarios" like this get written out, or even spoken about....the sterotypical assumption that it's going to be the man (father) who pays.

It's as bad as watching cop shows, and the the cops are always trying to "get the guy who (insert crime here)".



well, in me ex's case. she raised three kids in diapers (one with Down Syndrome), worked 40 hrs a week, AND carried a full load in college to get a degree

and everytime the court ordered him to pay child support he quit his job and moved so they couldn't find him or garnish his wages

LordCole's photo
Thu 05/28/09 11:43 AM
Edited by LordCole on Thu 05/28/09 11:44 AM

It's funny to me when "scenarios" like this get written out, or even spoken about....the sterotypical assumption that it's going to be the man (father) who pays.

It's as bad as watching cop shows, and the the cops are always trying to "get the guy who (insert crime here)".



It, in fact not funny, but the facts are that it is MOSTLY men that are doing this anyway. Not being stereotypical... just typical.

This can easily apply to Dead Beat Mothers as well... just so happens that there are fewer of those from what I see.