Topic: God created Mankind first.. Then Adam and Eve.
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Tue 07/10/07 10:58 PM
sweetie u have a lot of time to dig on these threads

laugh

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Tue 07/10/07 11:39 PM
Thanx Wench;

AB - though Jean's post was an ocean to wade through, I suggest you read through it again.

Spider has the right idea - though he sort of mislabeled it.
The first chapter of the book of Genesis is the account of the Creation. That's it. God created in 6 days - rested on the 7th. In Genesis 2:4 we are told this has been an "account of the heavens and the earth when they were created."

From this point on the account that follows is that of Man. More detail of HOW man was created - not simply the fact that he was created. Here too - it is detailed how woman was formed from Adam's rib. Genesis then continues to follow the account of man through Adam - Eve, and their offspring. Genesis 2 overlaps the account of Genesis 1:27. How do we know this? Because in Genesis 2:2 it says "By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work."

So - he was finished by the 7th day. The heavens and the earth were completed in ALL of their vast array. So if he had completed all of his work where is this "8th day" coming from?

lj

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Tue 07/10/07 11:54 PM
laugh laugh I know TLW. I can't help it. I'm reading and comparing and figuring out what I believe and what I don't believe. Its as if I'm consumed with an unbelievable need to compare and find the similarities and get to the bottom of the God truth. My whole being rebelled against all I was told was God when I was very young. 30 years I've spent making a very large and interesting circle back to where I came from. Only now, its not force fed to me nor is it covered with metaphoric onions (onions have always made me gag profusely and I had to bolt them down with a lot of milk, as we had to eat everything on our plates. The theory was you ate it or you wore it. Almost drowning in a bowl of oatmeal was the only lesson I needed regarding food.) Too much information, I know, but at least now you know I seriously meant force fed an inaccurate description of God.

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Wed 07/11/07 09:16 AM
Eljay,

"Spider has the right idea - though he sort of mislabeled it. "

Can you tell me how I mislabeled it?

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Wed 07/11/07 09:20 AM
Wow, this thread brings back memories of how mean-spirited some of the people here are.

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Wed 07/11/07 01:26 PM
Spider, that was most definitely not my intent. I had referred to this thread and Eljay wanted to know where I got the 8th day creation idea from. That's why I brought it back up. Yup, I know, you were just making an observation. Just in one of my need to clarify moods.....:tongue:

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Wed 07/11/07 07:58 PM


I studied religion growing up and some theology in later years.
The one question that comes to my mind constantly is, "Couldn't
God have created A Garden of Eden for every nationality or race and made an Adam & Eve for each one?"

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Wed 07/11/07 08:16 PM
I'm not a Bible Buff by any means, but that would get shot down with that tower of Babel story, which is where the different languages seems to have come in.

The theory though makes a lot of sense to me. Prophets of different nationalities also makes sense to me.

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Wed 07/11/07 08:27 PM


Sometimes I think I am in a tower of Babel here on earth.
Babel means a bedlam of sounds. So were they different
languages or a bunch of prattle that a person couldn't make
out what anyone was saying in relation to the tower of Babel?ohwell

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Wed 07/11/07 09:06 PM
Spider;

In one of your original post on page 1 you wrote:

Genesis 1:1-2:3 is Creation from God's perspective
Genesis 2:4-25 is Creation from Adam's perspective

while the breakdown is accurate, I think the idea of Genesis 2:4-25 as creation from Adam's persective is misleading. It gives the impression that Adam is giving the account - rather than the accound being about him. My understanding is that Gen 1:1-2:3 is the account of the Creation of the heavens and the Earth, while Genesis 2:4-25 is the account of Man (already created in the 6th day of the 1st account)

But I believe that your explination is basically in agreement with this - unless I'm wrong on that.

lj

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Thu 07/12/07 06:21 AM
Eljay,

I understand what you are saying. I guess I should have been specific that all of Genesis was written by Moses through divine inspiration. It has to be from Adam's perspective, because he was the first human created and Eve wouldn't have witnessed the events that Adam described.

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Thu 07/12/07 07:56 AM
heres something interesting about adam and eve. when they finished mapping the dna of humans a few years back a scientist noticed that women have dna structure that men dont have he ran a program that took a month and tried to see were it would fit in that mans dna structure and when it was done instead of looking like a spiral the dna was a perfect curve.. in the bible it says God took the curve out of adam, poor and bad tranlastion say god took the rib but thats not acruate neither is my spelling. but on the liter side if its true god used a rib then that proves adam wasnt black cause I have never seen a black man give up a rib.j/p
phill

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Thu 07/12/07 12:17 PM
huh

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Thu 07/12/07 12:22 PM
mckeach, please tell me that was a joke?

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Thu 07/12/07 12:27 PM
Even as a joke it was in poor taste, at the very least.

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Thu 07/12/07 03:53 PM
:tongue: maybe the rib thingy.. but no not about the dna structrue of a man turning into a perfect curve. or the translation of the bible saying God took the rib being a a poor translation older more acrute translations say curve out of adam. I am sure if you research there will be something on the internet about it if you need anyhelp let me know phill plmckeachie@hotmail.com

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Thu 07/12/07 04:31 PM
Shalom

To start with AB's topic. The creation story is told clearly in Gen 2:4

Gen 2:4-7

4 This is the HISTORY of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that Yahweh Elohim made the earth and the heavens, 5 before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For Yahweh Elohim had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.

7 And Yahweh Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
NKJV


This is going into deeper detail of creation. This is what also happened during creation. Put the watering of the earth after the creation had been finished. The 8th day. The 8th day in prphecy is when Yahweh himself will dwell with us.


Rev 22:1-5

And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding from the throne of Elohim and of the Lamb. 2 In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3 And there shall be no more curse, but the throne of Yahweh and of the Lamb shall be in it, and His servants shall serve Him. 4 They shall see His face, and His name shall be on their foreheads.
NKJV

The 8th day refered to is very profetic. On the Last Great day of the Feast of Tabernacles.The FOT teaches us what it will be like in the Millinium. The completetion of 7th day Sabbath. a day is as a 1000 years. But this last great day Yahweh comes to the earth and living waters flow from him. When true Shalom is with us.Then the tree of life is given us.

Yahshua spoke of this last great day of the feast..

John 7:37-39

On the last day , that great day of the feast, Yahshua stood and cried out, saying, "If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. 38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."
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The true last day will be when Yahweh himself comes to earth. Thier will be no need of light because he will light up the world.

Thanks everyone the more i read and post the more prophecy comes to light. May Yahweh of Hosts Give You His true Shalom.... Blessings... Miles

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Fri 07/13/07 11:32 AM
actually adventure it depends which genesis you look at genesis 1 they are created on a different day than in genesis 2, in one version they are created in " our" image and he creates them tgoether in gen 1, then in gen 2 ... adam is first then eve from adam's rib...

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Sat 07/14/07 12:25 PM
created from adams rib is a modern english interpation.. God took the curve out of adam is the orignal..I do believe the writer of genesis could of said rib if he wanted to..noway

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Sat 07/14/07 01:07 PM
the word rib is from the hebrew word tesla. tesla is translated rib 2 times and chamber around 10 times. to me chamber is a more correct translation. it also agrees with the 2 will become 1 as it was in the beginng. Why would Yahweh have to " close Adam up". If Adam was both sexes then closing him up would make since. Also the 2 becoming 1 as in the beginning would also. The Angels Yahshua spoke of when talking about the women who had 7 husbands would also make perfect since.. Blessings of Shalom... Miles