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Topic: SPECIAL ED STUDENTS SUBJECTED TO RESTRAINTS???
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Thu 05/21/09 12:31 PM

only a restraining order keep me out of the gutter lollaugh


heyyyyyy all this time I thought they were restraining you in da gutta not outta da gutta... laugh

keep telling you mud doesn't agree with my hair pitchfork

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Thu 05/21/09 12:34 PM
Fran I had to got back and reread this...

Miller said restraint can be viewed as a form of torture.

"When you start to think here, you're losing your breath you're losing your ability to breath .. .so you're creating that same physiological impact on that child that they're going to suffocate, and in fact, in cases they suffocated, they died," he said.


Is this his interpretation of restraint or actual cases of restraint used???

What were the reasons for using restraints?

What about restraing
a child to keep them from harming themselves? Other kids? Who is to decide? Just asking...

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Thu 05/21/09 12:48 PM

Fran I had to got back and reread this...

Miller said restraint can be viewed as a form of torture.

"When you start to think here, you're losing your breath you're losing your ability to breath .. .so you're creating that same physiological impact on that child that they're going to suffocate, and in fact, in cases they suffocated, they died," he said.


Is this his interpretation of restraint or actual cases of restraint used???

What were the reasons for using restraints?

What about restraing
a child to keep them from harming themselves? Other kids? Who is to decide? Just asking...


Actual restraints - they physically restrain the child while he's lying face down. (hence the smothering/suffocating/death of child) - barbaric (jmo)

A person dealing with children with special needs would and/or should have the appropriate training, experience, and/or education to not resort to such a barbaric means of control. This is all my opinion.


Here's another example:
Claire Lester's behavior was a challenge. She yelled and repeated phrases from movies. When upset, the 12-year-old girl with autism sometimes shoved papers off her desk or waved her arms and kicked her legs toward approaching teachers.

The staff at her Orange County public school responded to her behavior, her father said, by grabbing his 80-pound daughter, forcing her to the ground and then holding her there. This happened 44 times during the 2006-07 school year, according to school records the family shared with the Orlando Sentinel.

She was held once for an hour and, on average, 22 minutes at a time, the records show. At least one incident in her class for children with autism left her back badly bruised, her father, Steve Lester, said.


http://www.100ideas.org/news/articles/parents-special-needs-students-physically-restrained-too-often



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Thu 05/21/09 01:23 PM
Edited by Unknow on Thu 05/21/09 01:37 PM


Fran I had to got back and reread this...

Miller said restraint can be viewed as a form of torture.

"When you start to think here, you're losing your breath you're losing your ability to breath .. .so you're creating that same physiological impact on that child that they're going to suffocate, and in fact, in cases they suffocated, they died," he said.


Is this his interpretation of restraint or actual cases of restraint used???

What were the reasons for using restraints?

What about restraing
a child to keep them from harming themselves? Other kids? Who is to decide? Just asking...


Actual restraints - they physically restrain the child while he's lying face down. (hence the smothering/suffocating/death of child) - barbaric (jmo)

A person dealing with children with special needs would and/or should have the appropriate training, experience, and/or education to not resort to such a barbaric means of control. This is all my opinion.


Here's another example:
Claire Lester's behavior was a challenge. She yelled and repeated phrases from movies. When upset, the 12-year-old girl with autism sometimes shoved papers off her desk or waved her arms and kicked her legs toward approaching teachers.

The staff at her Orange County public school responded to her behavior, her father said, by grabbing his 80-pound daughter, forcing her to the ground and then holding her there. This happened 44 times during the 2006-07 school year, according to school records the family shared with the Orlando Sentinel.

She was held once for an hour and, on average, 22 minutes at a time, the records show. At least one incident in her class for children with autism left her back badly bruised, her father, Steve Lester, said.


http://www.100ideas.org/news/articles/parents-special-needs-students-physically-restrained-too-often



Im just asking questions and I agree with you....

What about restraing
a child to keep them from harming themselves? Other kids? Who is to decide? Just asking... ANY KID

Im not just talking about the extreme measures they used..Any measures of restraints..

I can restrain a child without such extreem measures..I have seen measures uesd in prisons not that extreem..


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Thu 05/21/09 01:26 PM
it would be safer for the teachers to have tasers. that way when the kids act up the teacher doesnt have to put themselves in harms way and just tase em

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Thu 05/21/09 01:40 PM



Fran I had to got back and reread this...

Miller said restraint can be viewed as a form of torture.

"When you start to think here, you're losing your breath you're losing your ability to breath .. .so you're creating that same physiological impact on that child that they're going to suffocate, and in fact, in cases they suffocated, they died," he said.


Is this his interpretation of restraint or actual cases of restraint used???

What were the reasons for using restraints?

What about restraing
a child to keep them from harming themselves? Other kids? Who is to decide? Just asking...


Actual restraints - they physically restrain the child while he's lying face down. (hence the smothering/suffocating/death of child) - barbaric (jmo)

A person dealing with children with special needs would and/or should have the appropriate training, experience, and/or education to not resort to such a barbaric means of control. This is all my opinion.


Here's another example:
Claire Lester's behavior was a challenge. She yelled and repeated phrases from movies. When upset, the 12-year-old girl with autism sometimes shoved papers off her desk or waved her arms and kicked her legs toward approaching teachers.

The staff at her Orange County public school responded to her behavior, her father said, by grabbing his 80-pound daughter, forcing her to the ground and then holding her there. This happened 44 times during the 2006-07 school year, according to school records the family shared with the Orlando Sentinel.

She was held once for an hour and, on average, 22 minutes at a time, the records show. At least one incident in her class for children with autism left her back badly bruised, her father, Steve Lester, said.


http://www.100ideas.org/news/articles/parents-special-needs-students-physically-restrained-too-often



Im just asking questions and I agree with you....

What about restraing
a child to keep them from harming themselves? Other kids? Who is to decide? Just asking...


I know I just enjoy the banter :wink:

Who is to decide? the local school board/community tongue2

Granted there is always the exception, the chance that restraining a child may be the only means that work. But these examples do not fit that mold - I would go insane being restrained (not in control of my own body) for 10 minutes much less a child (22 mins and some over an hour seems excessive to me).


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Thu 05/21/09 01:44 PM
Edited by Unknow on Thu 05/21/09 01:45 PM
Here's another example:
Claire Lester's behavior was a challenge. She yelled and repeated phrases from movies. When upset, the 12-year-old girl with autism sometimes shoved papers off her desk or waved her arms and kicked her legs toward approaching teachers.

The staff at her Orange County public school responded to her behavior, her father said, by grabbing his 80-pound daughter, forcing her to the ground and then holding her there. This happened 44 times during the 2006-07 school year, according to school records the family shared with the Orlando Sentinel.

She was held once for an hour and, on average, 22 minutes at a time, the records show. At least one incident in her class for children with autism left her back badly bruised, her father, Steve Lester, said.



I think I would question the parents who let it happen 44 times...It would only happen once to my kid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HMMMMMMMMMMMMm


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Thu 05/21/09 01:48 PM

Here's another example:
Claire Lester's behavior was a challenge. She yelled and repeated phrases from movies. When upset, the 12-year-old girl with autism sometimes shoved papers off her desk or waved her arms and kicked her legs toward approaching teachers.

The staff at her Orange County public school responded to her behavior, her father said, by grabbing his 80-pound daughter, forcing her to the ground and then holding her there. This happened 44 times during the 2006-07 school year, according to school records the family shared with the Orlando Sentinel.

She was held once for an hour and, on average, 22 minutes at a time, the records show. At least one incident in her class for children with autism left her back badly bruised, her father, Steve Lester, said.



I think I would question the parents who let it happen 44 times...It would only happen once to my kid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HMMMMMMMMMMMMm




If you new this was being done to my child - at a different community, would you allow it to happen? to continue? would you alert me to it? just asking flowerforyou

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Thu 05/21/09 01:53 PM
Edited by Unknow on Thu 05/21/09 02:00 PM


Here's another example:
Claire Lester's behavior was a challenge. She yelled and repeated phrases from movies. When upset, the 12-year-old girl with autism sometimes shoved papers off her desk or waved her arms and kicked her legs toward approaching teachers.

The staff at her Orange County public school responded to her behavior, her father said, by grabbing his 80-pound daughter, forcing her to the ground and then holding her there. This happened 44 times during the 2006-07 school year, according to school records the family shared with the Orlando Sentinel.

She was held once for an hour and, on average, 22 minutes at a time, the records show. At least one incident in her class for children with autism left her back badly bruised, her father, Steve Lester, said.



I think I would question the parents who let it happen 44 times...It would only happen once to my kid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HMMMMMMMMMMMMm




If you new this was being done to my child - at a different community, would you allow it to happen? to continue? would you alert me to it? just asking flowerforyou

Yes I would alert you and a good post.. Im just exporing the topic...

How many parents know what the policies of their school board are? I would hope this post would encourage parents to find out...Our school borad meetings are on the boob tube here..

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Thu 05/21/09 01:55 PM
Edited by Unknow on Thu 05/21/09 01:57 PM

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Thu 05/21/09 01:55 PM
Edited by Unknow on Thu 05/21/09 01:57 PM


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