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Topic: Create/Evolve Why Should It Matter?
AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 05/11/07 09:57 AM
This question is for everybody?

We can debate the finer points of faith and science till the cows come
waltzing in.

What is the point. Dig through the past for clues to something that has
no bearing on the reality of today. Is this not a waste of time.

After all the diggin and point/counter point only one fact is crystal
clear and indusputable.

WE ARE HERE.

Rather than pointing to the past and questioning why we are here point
instead towards the future and decide what we are going to do to get
there.

I am sure that we were not created/evolved to carry our civilization
backwards. So why not work towards carring our civilization Forwards
and leave the past to our ancestors.

One of our ancestors showed us the way.

Since we can not determine with our best knowledge which is true in the
knot of creation vs evolution.

CUT THE KNOT AND BE DONE WITH IT.

scttrbrain's photo
Fri 05/11/07 10:25 AM
AB, you are such a doll. If it were only so easy. We have our beliefs,
and mine are solid. Cannot, will not change it. I'm happy. That's what
matters to me. As it does to you.

As for going forward, yes: let's do that. We have created technology
that has thrust us forward yet backwards. We must take the initiative to
fix what we have tested. That has in fact hurt us. It is hard to change
what we have done, but it can be done. I'm all for going forward I'm
trying.flowerforyou
Kat

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Fri 05/11/07 10:27 AM
If you believe in Darwinism, it doesn't matter.
If you believe in Creation, it doesn't matter.
If you believe in OEC, it doesn't matter.

If you are a Christian who is trying to rectify an existing belief in
evolution with the belief that the Bible is the infallible Word of God,
it matters.

If you are a Christian who already believes in Creation and you are
trying to offset the constant repetition of evolution science, it
matters.

I think it would be great if there was a stickyed post on Creation and a
stickyed post on Evolution, both of which would only be posted in by
proponents. So they could be used as resources rather than debating.

Duffy's photo
Fri 05/11/07 11:12 AM
to ADbegins....it is "til the cows come waltzing home" in the West.
Everyone has their own take on the subject, but I will give my famous
bugel cry, GO MONKEYS,....and they are still ahead.:wink: :wink: :wink:
:wink: :wink: noway :tongue:

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 05/11/07 11:18 AM
You ask, “Should it matter?”

I like to know where I came from and how I got here.

AB wrote:
“Since we can not determine with our best knowledge which is true in the
knot of creation vs evolution.”

I disagree with your sentiment. Evolution is not even considered a
legitimate debate by mainstream science anymore. That’s purely a
sociological debate.

From my perspective, the observation that evolution is how we got here
is historical water over the dam. It’s just a matter of time before the
masses finally accept it. The acceptance of evolution is no longer a
matter of science, it’s now just simple a matter of sociology.

no photo
Fri 05/11/07 11:22 AM
I think we have to know our roots to know which way we are growing. The
problem is that we define our roots and growth
differently. I believe in evolution with a fair share of
mutation in between. Other people believe different, so it
is a matter of finding our way, each by his own choice.

Jess642's photo
Fri 05/11/07 02:52 PM
What time is it?

I might be late for something..


Where did I come from?

Who cares!!!

I am here now...

Where I am going is the question..

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Fri 05/11/07 02:55 PM
Don't take me wrong, I'm living very much in the now, I love it here. I
just look into the past sometimes for mistakes that I don't want to
repeat

RainbowTrout's photo
Fri 05/11/07 02:57 PM
If you got one leg in the past and one leg in the future then you are
pissing on today. The here and now is important to. In our griefshare
meetings we have discussed that. Let the dead bury the dead.

wonderman37's photo
Fri 05/11/07 02:57 PM
it matters jess the true question is you have 2 choices accept jesus
christ as your saviorr and live or go to hell when you die it is your
choice

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Fri 05/11/07 02:58 PM
I love history,i find it interesting to know and learn about things.i
live in the here and now everyday .Nice to escape and wonder sometimes.

no photo
Fri 05/11/07 02:58 PM
Oh cripes, another onefrown

RainbowTrout's photo
Fri 05/11/07 03:00 PM
laugh They're everywhere. They're everywhere. You try washing them
out. You try scrubbing them out. laugh

Jess642's photo
Fri 05/11/07 03:10 PM
bigsmile Hope hell has a barbeque, for my sweet potatoes..

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 05/11/07 03:41 PM
I don’t think that studying history is the same as living in the past.

But dwelling too much on an afterlife could be the same as living in the
future.

What’s wrong with this life?

I’ve often thought about going to a ‘perfect’ heaven.

The problem is that if it really is ‘perfect’ then it wouldn’t be
desirable at all.

What would there be to do?

If you *have* to do anything then it wouldn’t be perfect because if it
requires work to sustain it then it’s not perfect. And if you don’t
*need* to do anything then what’s the point of existing?

I think reality is about as close to heaven as anyone needs to get.

The important thing to realize is that no one really dies!

It’s a never-ending process of reincarnation.

A perfect eternal heaven would be BORING!

Life *is* the eternal heaven, and the POINT to it is to LIVE IT!

Those are my answers, and from that point of view I have all the
answers. What more is there to know?

The universe is eternal, and I’m part of it. Period. The philosophy is
done. All that’s left to do now is life the life. That’s the
NEVER-ENDING adventure!

Just because I understand the point to it doesn’t diminish the mystery
or excitement of it.

Differentkindofwench's photo
Fri 05/11/07 03:52 PM
Wonderman,

You may choose to have two choices, which is your right. Me - my
choices are infinite.........

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Fri 05/11/07 04:17 PM
There are infinite choices, but only one is right.

There are infinite choices, but only two destinations.

elyspears's photo
Fri 05/11/07 04:24 PM
The only reason why it matters is that my tax dollars have to go for
paying for something I don't believe in.

Differentkindofwench's photo
Fri 05/11/07 04:34 PM
Spidercmb,

Interesting to meet you. For you, one is right. For me, one will be
right. After all, I am only one person, although as I have many
aspects, my choice more than likely will too. My choice is between me
and the Great Mystery. Your personal dictate of choices does not enter
my equation. It may or may not ripple effect mine, but it does not
dictate it.

no photo
Fri 05/11/07 05:26 PM
I wonder why certain Christians feel the need to attempt to convert any
of us who do not believe what they do..and I wonder why they always play
the goin to hell trump card....

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