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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Fri 05/15/09 09:57 PM
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Lee I don't really care what others think so you can repeat yourself as much as you like about how people don't like the answers you give. Everyone to their own I say. Fortunately I personally can choose to believe them or not and I don't believe your conclusions are logical at all.  People dont like a lot of the answers they get that dont suit them,doesn't have anything to do with me.Everyone has their own say but most people are wrong. Somethings are self evident.
You are pretty much in agreement with Christianity. Which denomination is uncertain but it doesn't matter to me anyway. They all have one of the same idealogy in principle. So what?You seem to have an agenda with your questions in this thread,which is uncharacteristic of you.
As for me personally I don't think a God had anything to do with the creation of this universe. ok
Do I have answers? No I don't, but I don't follow manmade written documents to be valid either or inspired by a God. I also am probably one of the few in the world that will also say that if we are honest with ourselves and with others then we don't know the answers to such hard questions philosophers have been asking for thousands of years. We can only speculate and that would be a good answer. Just because you or I don't have "the answers" does not mean that someone else does not. Some things are self evident. Some things are obvious.
We don't know how it all started and why because it is beyond our knowledge at the moment to know. It is way before our time to know and beyond our intelligence, although scientists are getting closer to understanding some of the occurrences our galaxy endures such as how planets may form after a sun explodes and perhaps how the big bang occurs. ok
I would rather believe in evolution then creationism also. It is hard to believe that people actually agree that the Earth is only a few thousand years old. Evolution seems to be logical to me and I agree that Earth is probably more than a few thousand years old
and last but not least I don't think we are much significance to any beginning if we look at how huge the many milky ways there are scattered throughout the many universes. Good point. We probably arn't as important as we think we are
So good luck on whatever you believe 
 You too Smiless
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I have no agenda besides sharing today a agnostic view from a author that I found interesting that came to his conclusions on what he thought about the bible and its works. I pretty much share his views on them and enjoyed sharing it on the thread.
My characteristic is the same. When you mention everyone has their own say and most people are wrong then you have to realize that you could be wrong also even if you are so certain you are correct and it seems evident to you personally. Of course being a Christian you will have a large following of what you believe in. As for me I have a different view and find it logical and self evident, but I do hold doors open if more can be discovered in the future. |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Fri 05/15/09 10:06 PM
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I have no agenda besides sharing today a agnostic view from a author that I found interesting that came to his conclusions on what he thought about the bible and its works. I pretty much share his views on them and enjoyed sharing it on the thread. Yeah, your thread is cool I have enjoyed it as well
My characteristic is the same. When you mention everyone has their own say and most people are wrong then you have to realize that you could be wrong also even if you are so certain you are correct and it seems evident to you personally. Of course being a Christian you will have a large following of what you believe in. Good point but I also realize "the answers" don't and won't always suit me but that is irrellevant.Yes, most people are wrong about most things that they believe,whatever they call themselves. The truth hurts Not sure about how much of a "Christian" I am. I think a lot of the "Christians" would dispute what I have to say.
As for me I have a different view and find it logical and self evident, but I do hold doors open if more can be discovered in the future. Im not looking for my truth ,I am looking for the truth. My beliefs are crap and don't matter a bit.Most people can;t understand thatAnd yes, you are a pretty logical guy from what I have seen over the past year. I try to be as well
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Edited by
creativesoul
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Fri 05/15/09 10:19 PM
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Mirror...
A little help for you hopefully... To quote only parts of another's response... Hit reply to topic icon... Scroll down to the response and left click/drag to highlight the entire response... Scroll back up and left click in the reply box... Right click and paste... Go through and add this manually - (left bracket)quote(right bracket) - at the beginning of where you want to begin a quote box and - (left bracket)/quote(right bracket) - where you want it to end... When you actually type it disregard the parenthesis and actually hit the left and right bracket keys with the word quote in between to begin a quote box... or /quote in between to end the quote box. I wrote out the bracket function because if I would have used the actual symbol it would have placed everything inside those commands into a quote box. Do that everywhere you wish to quote something, then delete the rest and place your responses in between the quote boxes... |
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Mirror... A little help for you hopefully... To quote only parts of another's response... Hit reply to topic icon... Scroll down to the response and left click/drag to highlight the entire response... Scroll back up and left click in the reply box... Right click and paste... Go through and add this manually - (left bracket)quote(right bracket) - at the beginning of where you want to begin a quote box and - I wrote out the first bracket function because if I would have used the actual symbol it would have placed everything inside those commands into a quote box. Do that everywhere you wish to quote something, then delete the rest and place your responses in between the quote boxes...  Thanks Creative, I basically know how to do that but am too busy trying to think of how to phrase my replies to mess with it
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Okee Dokee Mirror...
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I believe in GOD the Father ALMIGHTY
creator of heaven and of earth and in JESUS CHRIST his only begotten son Conceived of the HOLY SPIRIT born of the Virgin Mary suffered under Pontious Pilate crucified, died and was buried he descended and on the third day he arose & ascended into heaven he now sits at the right hand of GOD and from thence he shall come to judge the living and the dead I believe in the Holy Spirit the holy "C" church the communion of saints the forgiveness of sins the resurrection of the body and life everlasting AMEN I respectfully maintain that You are ALL missing the point. It's about JESUS. He is our LORD and our Savior you have only to open your hearts to him and he will receive you and deliver you (show you the way) from evil if you ask him to. Anything and I do mean ANYTHING that speaks other wise and takes you from his path is the work of satan and that goes double for EPICURIS. Please remember doubt is the work of the devil...he doesn't want you to succeed. He wants you working for him wallowing in misery. But, JESUS does want you to succeed simply because he loves you, he gave his life to prove that point. Tell me what exactly has satan done for ya? Jesus was and remains the perfect example of righteousness we can never be fully like him. We are not perfect, nor does he expect us to be but he built in a plan that saves us anyway, it is HIS PERFECT FORGIVING LOVE. I'm sticking with JESUS, he's got my back and he'll have yours too STOP NOW and ask him and you'll see...something miraculous will happen in your life and it will be his way of letting you know your message was received loud and clear...now STOP and listen and let him show you the way, the truth, the light. It will shine upon you if you invite it too. Have FAITH my friends GOD IS LOVE and LOVE IS REAL :-) I'll leave you with this........... ALL designed by our heavenly Father and illustrated by our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST. Excellence of the Gift of Love Now I will show you the way which surpasses all the others If I speak with human tongues and angelic as well, but do not have love, I am a noisy gong, a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and with full knowledge, comprehend all mysteries, if I have faith great enough to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give everything I have to feed the poor and hand over my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing. Love is patient, love is kind. Love is not jealous, it does not put on airs, it is not snobbish. Love is never rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not prone to anger, neither does it brood over injuries. Love does not rejoice in what is wrong but rejoices with the truth. There is no limit to love's forbearance, to its trust, its hope, its power to endure. Love never fails. Prophecies will cease, tongues will be silent. knowledge will pass away. Our knowledge is imperfect and our prophesying is imperfect. When the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away. When I was a child I used to talk like a child, think like a child, reason like a child. When I became a man I put childish ways aside. Now we see indistinctly, as in a mirror, then we shall see face to face. My knowledge is imperfect now; then I shall know even as I am known. There are in the end three things that last; faith, hope, and love and the greatest of these is love. Book of 1 Corinthians 12:31 - 13:13 GOD BLESS YOU in Jesus Holy name I pray AMEN |
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No matter what faith you subscribe to, if you believe in one all mighty power that be, answer me this: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god? - Epicurus. I'm sure some of you have seen this quote before, and I'm not posting it to be a smart alec or rub you up the wrong way or anything of such nature. I am having a lapse in what was once a strong personal belief in god, for personal reasons I would rather not go into. However, this quote really struck something in me, and has made me question faith in general (not just my own), as I really cannot find an answer to the questions posed in this verse. Anyone willing to clarify how it can be disproven using logic are welcome to reply. I would welcome anyone to try and help out, because I'm pretty much lost for an answer... If we be truly in that image... and we be both evil and good. (in the moment). it stands that the image we are rumored to be from is ALSO both. and therefore has no reason to prevent evil (it sometimes being necessary for balance). If the first premise to the treatise be wrong... the logic is flawed and therefore suspect. |
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No matter what faith you subscribe to, if you believe in one all mighty power that be, answer me this: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god? - Epicurus. I'm sure some of you have seen this quote before, and I'm not posting it to be a smart alec or rub you up the wrong way or anything of such nature. I am having a lapse in what was once a strong personal belief in god, for personal reasons I would rather not go into. However, this quote really struck something in me, and has made me question faith in general (not just my own), as I really cannot find an answer to the questions posed in this verse. Anyone willing to clarify how it can be disproven using logic are welcome to reply. I would welcome anyone to try and help out, because I'm pretty much lost for an answer... Thats it. |
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It doesn't matter in what you believe, when you truly believe you will find the answers you are looking for.
If you disbelieve, same process you will find your truth. Faith in whatever makes everything seem right and all that is not your faith seem wrong. Look at this planet, nothing is perfect on it so how can a perfect entity make such an unperfect world. |
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