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Globalization! K Car! Jimmy "the waste" Carter! The Pacer, Pinto, Vega, etc. etc. etc. When you have no competition you get crap.Try this: build a better car than the Japanese are and more people will buy it. You can shovel the sh!t cars to the people but for now they have a choice and they are clearly choosing quality. What a concept. American cars didn't get cheap until after the gas crisis and the tariffs were lifted during the 70's. They had to cheap down some gas efficient cars just to compete with the cheap ass foreign cars prices and gas mileage. That was then. Now Toyota's cost as much as a Chevy or Ford, and American cars are better quality. They still arent the quality of a 68 Camaro. How many 70 Model Toyotas or Datsuns do you see? |
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What were the Japs selling when GM and Ford came out with the Pinto and Vega?
A Datsun??? 
Good thing the Datsun was good on gas because it sure was cheap as hell. |
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What were the Japs selling when GM and Ford came out with the Pinto and Vega? A Datsun???
Good thing the Datsun was good on gas because it sure was cheap as hell. The fact is: The Japanese cars created competition where there wasn't any. Without competition you get crap.Do you honestly think that American cars would even come close to the quality you see today without competition in their market? |
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What were the Japs selling when GM and Ford came out with the Pinto and Vega? A Datsun???
Good thing the Datsun was good on gas because it sure was cheap as hell. I think your crystal ball is a little foggy. Debate the topic not the poster! |
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http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/04/cars-from-the-7/
Check this out Glenn, you'll get a kick out of it. Many of these cars are long forgotten.
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http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/04/cars-from-the-7/ Check this out Glenn, you'll get a kick out of it. Many of these cars are long forgotten.
Wow! They just erased part of my post! 
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Zapchaser
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Mon 05/11/09 04:23 PM
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http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/04/cars-from-the-7/ Check this out Glenn, you'll get a kick out of it. Many of these cars are long forgotten.
Wow! They just erased part of my post!
It's OK, they got all of mine! 
Seriously! Check that site. I bet you have forgotten half of those wonderful machines! 
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Mon 05/11/09 04:30 PM
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http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/04/cars-from-the-7/ Check this out Glenn, you'll get a kick out of it. Many of these cars are long forgotten.
LOL Was this any better? 
1970 Datsun 510 Cheaper. Better gas mileage. Not better though. |
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http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/04/cars-from-the-7/ Check this out Glenn, you'll get a kick out of it. Many of these cars are long forgotten.
LOL Was this any better?
1970 Datsun 510 Cheaper. Better gas mileage. Not better though. Your trump cards are: 1. Cheaper 2. Better gas mileage Given two vehicles of equal quality, the sale goes to...... |
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We have more corporate loop holes for them to jump out of paying taxes. Then there is no reason the producers are running away for such a welcome place. We could lower corporate tax by supplementing it with the tariffs collected on Chinese Made products at the docks! Not really. (I am not supporting the spending of liberals, but for the sake of this argument:) If you remove taxes and install tariffs, then the manufacture (as you insist) will move back in. So, you will have no tax revenues, and no tariffs to replace them. Then you will try to grab people's money again, by returning the taxation. How else are you going to fund the socialism? |
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Globalization! K Car! Jimmy "the waste" Carter! The Pacer, Pinto, Vega, etc. etc. etc. When you have no competition you get crap.Try this: build a better car than the Japanese are and more people will buy it. You can shovel the sh!t cars to the people but for now they have a choice and they are clearly choosing quality. What a concept. American cars didn't get cheap until after the gas crisis and the tariffs were lifted during the 70's. They had to cheap down some gas efficient cars just to compete with the cheap ass foreign cars prices and gas mileage. That was then. Now Toyota's cost as much as a Chevy or Ford, and American cars are better quality. They still arent the quality of a 68 Camaro. How many 70 Model Toyotas or Datsuns do you see? That is a fallacy. The real question is why fix a cheap car? If you buy a cheap import and the engine takes a dump, it is often more economical to replace the entire car. With a domestic, that was not always the case. That is the primary reason. At the time, the domestic offerings were far more expensive. It cost a lot more to replace that camaro than just the engine. A honda cvcc did not offer nearly the dilemma. Once the 80s hit, you see far more Hondas and Toyotas in fair shape while around here, all the domestics are falling apart at similar mileages. |
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Go to a junk yard, and pay attention to the mileage. On the American side, you will see 70 to 95 thousand miles. On the foreign side you will see numbers ranging from 150 to 300 thousand.
Of course, you can simply invent an excuse. But my old boss (an auto shop), told me to do this and to not be stupid. I did, and bought a foreign. Never looked with desire at this horrifying evidence of a complete lack of brains: 
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