I hate to say this but the reality is that most of you that post in this forum are ten times more informed then your neighbors. Now just think of all the people who do not watch the news because most of its bad news. I say this because out of all my friends their is about 10% that actualy grasp what is going on in the wold today and the other 90% just dont give a fck as long as its not on their actual front door.

And the news being fed in to this nation is biased selective and at best politically inclined
watch BBC for most up to date and truly international daily occurrences of the world

You meant to say "news"! the problem with this country is we let liberals have a say.

Well if that isn't unconstitutional, unpatriotic, etc... Although I would agree that right wingers should have no say, I realize that there needs to be a balance in this country. Neither shoulod have ultimate power. It is as it should be.

This isn't the problem with our nation, it a normal state of things. People do not care. Even when they say they do care, they do not care to find out what is really taking place.

But, this is normal. If it wasn't so, it would not make sense to fool around and lie or scam. One who is lying would be immediately seen as such, if everyone paid attention.

People are designed to be ruled.

That actually kind of hurts to hear, people are designed to be ruled? So your saying basically, the people who go out on a binge, and go open up thier own company, such as the creator of McDonalds, or Walmart, Or that Local Car Dealership near your house, the entrepeneurs of today's world, Are destined to be ruled? I disagree with this statement, because... The fact that these guys can just get up and split if they really want to. They can say "**** The US" and leave, they have the money, that ability, and that power. I wouldn't call that being ruled, would you? What happens when they finally do leave btw? Haha.

America Love it or leave it

You're hilarious.

Well at least that is what the right wingers say...lol

All the rest of us say America love it or fix it...lol

You have your chance. Let's see what you do with it. I'm not impressed so far.

obviously not just one side says it

They dont much like it when you say that back to them

US THEM

Everyone saying that is what the problem is.

What ever happened to

WE

The great divide and conquer.

We sure do have the divide
Hope there will be no conquer

Somewhere down the road we lost our way. What used to be us against them (them meant something different to everyone) became us against us.

As a lifelong Independent I would say No!

The problem is the Republican Party needs to be gone from our political landscape and replaced by a new second party who realizes the People are more important to America than their rich, power hungry friends!

8 years of the great decider!

I don't think the Republicans have a monopoly on that. You don't think trial lawyers and unions are power hungry?

I often wonder if people have forgotten the Clinton/ Gore years.. Republicans get linked with companies like ENRON and Halliburton. Let's remember that Clinton bent over backwards to push ENRON contracts overseas. Ron Browns fateful trip to Croatia was to push a deal for ENRON.

Lets not forget:

"One such project, a power plant in India, played a big part in Enron’s demise. The company had trouble selling the power to local officials, adding to its huge $618 million loss for the third quarter of 2001. Former President Clinton worked hard to secure the India deal for Enron in the mid-90s; not surprisingly, his 1996 campaign received $100,000 from the company. Yet the media makes no mention of this favoritism. Clinton may claim he was "protecting" tax dollars, but those tax dollars should never have been sent to India in the first place."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul499.html

Both parties are in the tank for the companies and people that can send them money to get themselves re elected. That is all this is about. Ill do this for you, and you do this for me..

John Murtha is probably the most corrupt man or woman to ever serve a lifetime in congress.. Almost every day I read another article listing people and companies that he has directed huge sums of dollars in appropriations. They have in turn donated millions to his 16 or so re election campaigns.

John Murtha and people like him are the problem. If one day, we all can't get past this party line blame game BS, we are all going to pay a huge price, and it wont matter one damn bit what party you belong to.

Thomas Paine said in his parchment "Common Sense" that it is immoral to have people ruled over (not those exact words but close).

When mankind began to become civilized there were no kings, dukes, presidents, etc. They are just products of "divine right" that humans placed upon ourselves.