Topic: 'Gay' groups: We have rights to your children!
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Wed 05/13/09 12:17 PM






It still comes down to the fact that people really need to mind their business.

Two consenting adults of age and mental capability should be allowed to marry if they want to. It doesn't hurt anyone but them if their marriage fails.


So why do married couples get a bigger tax-break than unmarried people?


Because marriage was intended for the rearing and raising of children. Back in the day, one partner stayed home with kids, and the other supported the family, but that goes back to tradition, which seems to be a dirty word to gays. Point being, the breaks were created to help those raising kids, no other reason. Gays to not have kids, outside of medical intervention of some sort.


Many gay couples have families. They adopt.


True and gay female couples often have their own. A number of different ways that can be made to happen.


Most gays children come from the contradiction.
A previous heterosexual relationship..

Most States and adoption agency (run by christian groups) wont allow homosexuals to adopt, and it is really, really hard to find an infant or toddler available for adoption.

Imagine the problems associated with gays adopting a 12 yr old heterosexual child.
The problems created in that child's mind are far greater than the benefit of having an adoptive parent!


Where have you been for the last 30 years, FAnta? You really are uninformed.

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Wed 05/13/09 12:18 PM


Most gays children come from the contradiction.
A previous heterosexual relationship..

Most States and adoption agency (run by christian groups) wont allow homosexuals to adopt, and it is really, really hard to find an infant or toddler available for adoption.

Imagine the problems associated with gays adopting a 12 yr old heterosexual child.
The problems created in that child's mind are far greater than the benefit of having an adoptive parent!


These way of thinking really makes me go hmmmm. slaphead

A persons sexual preference does not in one way or another diminish his/her character, personality, ability to love and nurture others.

The problems associated with raising a teenager are the same be it that the parents are straight or gay.




Exactly, thanks Fran, it appears some folks are living in the current times.

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Wed 05/13/09 12:21 PM



or maybe they just wanted children, OMG no way, a human being wanting children, that can't happen.

:thumbsup:


They should think about their wish for children before they make their life choice to be gay!

Homosexual relationships dont propogate children.


Firm believer sexual orientation/preference not a choice.

Homosexual/straight relationships, both can provide the same essential values to have healthy, well adjusted and productive members of society.

Who a person sleeps with (be it same/diff gender) with does not mean they are more suited for parental roles.

Fear on the other hand - that can deter growth.

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Wed 05/13/09 12:26 PM


I know a lesbian couple that are great parents to adopted sisters.
Funny - they even have the girls in a Christian school. They want the girls to get a good education. Those girls have spent the night at my house before. I know them. They are doing great.


You do not know what goes on in anyones private life.
You only know what they show in public!
This mistake happens constantly! When private things become public you hear people say all the time, "I would never have guessed, on the surface everything looked good."

I could show you a thousand examples of this fact.

Take Phillip Markoffs girlfriend, family, and friends for instance.

None of them thought the shy med student was capable of the craigs list killings.
His girlfriend still thinks he is innocent!

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Wed 05/13/09 12:28 PM

The Unmarried Couple Adoption Ban is a citizen-initiated state statute that was on the November 4, 2008 ballot in Arkansas. It was approved, making it illegal for any individuals cohabiting outside of a valid marriage to adopt or provide foster care to minors.
While the measure was proposed primarily to prohibit same-sex couples from being adoptive or foster parents, this measure also applies to all otherwise qualified couples who are not legally married.

Citizens? Hmmm.

Majority wins. More states should adopt this law!


It was proposed 'SOLEY' to prohibit same-sex couples from Adopting, Not primarily unless you believe that bs. Nothing like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Either way are we to be suprised by it in 'ARKANSAS'.. LMAO

Majority we always win until the Marjority is no longer the majority and that is already happening. What goes around comes around in more ways than one it appears. I'd love to see how well that Ban is being inforced.

You'd make a great dictator, Fanta.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 05/13/09 12:28 PM
I dont make decisions based on a bleeding heart.
I look at facts, not popular propaganda!

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Wed 05/13/09 12:30 PM



I know a lesbian couple that are great parents to adopted sisters.
Funny - they even have the girls in a Christian school. They want the girls to get a good education. Those girls have spent the night at my house before. I know them. They are doing great.


You do not know what goes on in anyones private life.
You only know what they show in public!
This mistake happens constantly! When private things become public you hear people say all the time, "I would never have guessed, on the surface everything looked good."

I could show you a thousand examples of this fact.

Take Phillip Markoffs girlfriend, family, and friends for instance.

None of them thought the shy med student was capable of the craigs list killings.
His girlfriend still thinks he is innocent!


rofl gotta give you credit you're like a Timex rofl

same can be said for any homosexual/hetero couples - no one knows what goes on in their homes, where the wife/husband is abused? where there is drug use? where the children are being abused?


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Wed 05/13/09 12:31 PM

thought marriage became official once logged in the local registry - once ceremony was performed or officiated.


I believe they are talking about consumating the marriage (which has been used to get anulments)


for everyone else...I think it's safe to say that people disagree on the issue...therefore (back to the OP) it should be the parents choice

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Wed 05/13/09 12:33 PM

I dont make decisions based on a bleeding heart.
I look at facts, not popular propaganda!


There is nothing to decide on Fanta.

The facts are you believe one way and I believe otherwise.

"The heart will seek what the mind cannot".

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Wed 05/13/09 12:34 PM


thought marriage became official once logged in the local registry - once ceremony was performed or officiated.


I believe they are talking about consumating the marriage (which has been used to get anulments)


for everyone else...I think it's safe to say that people disagree on the issue...therefore (back to the OP) it should be the parents choice


thought that was just a tradition or old wives tale - :wink:

back to the OP

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Wed 05/13/09 12:36 PM
gotta give you credit you're like a Timex

same can be said for any homosexual/hetero couples - no one knows what goes on in their homes, where the wife/husband is abused? where there is drug use? where the children are being abused?


But they are able to propagate naturally!

There is nothing natural about homosexuality!

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Wed 05/13/09 12:39 PM

gotta give you credit you're like a Timex

same can be said for any homosexual/hetero couples - no one knows what goes on in their homes, where the wife/husband is abused? where there is drug use? where the children are being abused?


But they are able to propagate naturally!

There is nothing natural about homosexuality!


so as long as they have sex to have a child, anything else they do is ok?


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Wed 05/13/09 12:40 PM



thought marriage became official once logged in the local registry - once ceremony was performed or officiated.


I believe they are talking about consumating the marriage (which has been used to get anulments)


for everyone else...I think it's safe to say that people disagree on the issue...therefore (back to the OP) it should be the parents choice


thought that was just a tradition or old wives tale - :wink:

back to the OP


well I do know people have gotten an anulment because they didn't consumate the marriage....but i believe it's just an excuse to get out of a marriage (whether they had sex or not)

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Wed 05/13/09 12:42 PM

well I do know people have gotten an anulment because they didn't consumate the marriage....but i believe it's just an excuse to get out of a marriage (whether they had sex or not)


in this day and age, it would be his word vs her word unless the cosumation was to take place in public laugh


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Wed 05/13/09 12:44 PM


gotta give you credit you're like a Timex

same can be said for any homosexual/hetero couples - no one knows what goes on in their homes, where the wife/husband is abused? where there is drug use? where the children are being abused?


But they are able to propagate naturally!

There is nothing natural about homosexuality!


so as long as they have sex to have a child, anything else they do is ok?




Nobody said that! nowayslaphead

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Wed 05/13/09 12:47 PM


well I do know people have gotten an anulment because they didn't consumate the marriage....but i believe it's just an excuse to get out of a marriage (whether they had sex or not)


in this day and age, it would be his word vs her word unless the cosumation was to take place in public laugh




in this day and age...that has happened and ended up on the internet laugh

franshade's photo
Wed 05/13/09 12:48 PM

gotta give you credit you're like a Timex

same can be said for any homosexual/hetero couples - no one knows what goes on in their homes, where the wife/husband is abused? where there is drug use? where the children are being abused?


But they are able to propagate naturally!

There is nothing natural about homosexuality!


there is no need for natural conception anymore - with all the facts and scientific data available - bearing a child is possible even for same gendered couples.

many straight couples who cannot bear children - should they go without or find other means?

Why does it scare you that 2 men or 2 women can love themselves wholeheartedly and can be responsible parents and productive members of society?

Love is natural - love is a natural occurence - who one falls in love is lucky regarless of gender.

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Wed 05/13/09 12:49 PM

gotta give you credit you're like a Timex

same can be said for any homosexual/hetero couples - no one knows what goes on in their homes, where the wife/husband is abused? where there is drug use? where the children are being abused?


But they are able to propagate naturally!


so can gay women if they so choose.


There is nothing natural about homosexuality!


If it's unnatural then why does it occur though-out nature?

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Wed 05/13/09 12:51 PM
single women get artificially insiminated. they don't want a marriage or relationship, but want a child. how is it any different??? spock

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Wed 05/13/09 12:51 PM

I dont make decisions based on a bleeding heart.
I look at facts, not popular propaganda!


No actually you tend ignore fact that do not fall into what you want to believe is true.