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For one, he sold us out to the European bankers. Europe now has a say in how the country is to be run. Unconstitutional. Secondly, he wants to strip our right to assemble. Thirdly, he wants to add 12 to 18 million more Illegals to our already stressed Social system and job market. If that's not enough to be fed up with his BS, more can be listed. He's using our Constitution to wipe his a$$ with. Oh and just a reminder< we don't live in a dictatorship, therefore it is rather misleading to say "he". I say he, because the Dems will give him what he wants and with pork, the Reps will sell out also. In the news. Don't know if you're any kind of activist but, he's attempting to take the right to demonstrate and/or speak out against the Gov |
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Don't know if you have been asleep for the past 9 years when the last president was taking away your right to privacy? Please supply the information you are siting and make sure it does not come from Fox, Limbaugh or any other right leaning organization. Maybe from a European, a more neutral party
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You go ahead, live in the past and argue your right to be enslaved.
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This is a prefect example of how much in the dark Americans are about their government.
There is no such thing as the past in government. Laws and policies that W enacted will effect us and the government years into the future. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Wed 04/15/09 06:08 AM
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Oops.
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Wed 04/15/09 06:26 AM
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Texas is 1 of the 9 states currently running a budget surplus...they must be doing something right...add to that list of 9 Alaska...  and did it with no state income tax Texans do pay taxes. In fact they are ranked 4th in the nation in total state taxes. (4 Texas….. 32,784,942) What Rose keeps referring to is they rank 49th in per capita tax, but there really isn't that much difference in those ranked along beside them. 46 Missouri….. 1,645.49 47 Colorado….. 1,639.54 48 New Hampshire….. 1,534.94 49 Texas….. 1,434.16 50 South Dakota….. 1,430.46 People have a bad habit at looking at statistics individually without seeing the total picture. Like Lynann's posting. A lot of those statistics can be attributed to the fact that Texas is a Southern State and more importantly a border state. Southern States, particularly border states, have a better look at the illegal immigration problem the US faces, and a larger struggle dealing with the costs. For example lets take the HS dropout rate, literacy, and the population growth in Texas schools. Adult illegal immigrants resist learning to speak English but they do bring their children with them who also can not speak English and therefore they struggle in school for the first few years and their HS dropout rate among their children is around 70%. Northern States see some illegal immigrants, but they are usually illegals who have been in America for quite a few years. Most of them have migrated, for one reason or other, from another more Southern State where the illegal problems are much greater. Southern, and particularly border, states are flooded with illegal immigrants. The Northern States can not and do not fully understand the problem and can not fully understand the problems associated with illegal immigration as we do. Now with that said I have one more thing. Don't get y'alls panties and shorts all bunched up Texas. You are not special and you owe your independence and allegiance to the US. Everyone knows North Carolina is No. 1... |
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adj4u
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Wed 04/15/09 06:41 AM
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http://www.jbs.org/index.php/action/campaign-tools/4564
for those that wanted the list of other states that jhave an issue with 10th amendment abuses by the federal govt you might be a lil surprised if i counted correctly there are 26 of them Ohio * House: HCR11 "[T]he State of Ohio hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States." * Senate: |
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If the southern states could get over the past civil war enough to start being a positive influence on themselves, the discourse and ineffective care provided their constituents might change.
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You know adj.
That stuff has been going on for years, so why is it that all of a sudden is it projected on the Internet as something new and astounding? It really means nothing. A reaffirmation? So what. No one is taking away any more state sovereignty since Obama became President than at any other time in history. Anyone who falls for the hype as if it is something new or has any real impact is being duped by the Republicans and Ron Paul, and riled into unnecessary fear. Sheep! |
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This is a prefect example of how much in the dark Americans are about their government. There is no such thing as the past in government. Laws and policies that W enacted will effect us and the government years into the future. i do agree. Problem is, Clinton started taking away our rights after the Oklahoma city bombings. Push continued with his patriot act. Now it seems Obama voted to reinstate this act, and his administration now wants to push for the "Fairness Doctrine" which overrides our first amendment, and he wants strict gun control (see HR 45) which overrides our second. You are so right about there being no past in politics, as we are still living with consequences of Bush, Carter, Nixon, FDR, Wilson, etc. These things are really starting to add up... |
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You know adj. That stuff has been going on for years, so why is it that all of a sudden is it projected on the Internet as something new and astounding? It really means nothing. A reaffirmation? So what. No one is taking away any more state sovereignty since Obama became President than at any other time in history. Anyone who falls for the hype as if it is something new or has any real impact is being duped by the Republicans and Ron Paul, and riled into unnecessary fear. Sheep! Politics over the internet is a relatively new thing. Never you mind, Obama is bound to wanna' touch that to. Ya' think Amnesty will pass? Are you still Pro-Illegal? |
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This is a prefect example of how much in the dark Americans are about their government. There is no such thing as the past in government. Laws and policies that W enacted will effect us and the government years into the future. i do agree. Problem is, Clinton started taking away our rights after the Oklahoma city bombings. Push continued with his patriot act. Now it seems Obama voted to reinstate this act, and his administration now wants to push for the "Fairness Doctrine" which overrides our first amendment, and he wants strict gun control (see HR 45) which overrides our second. You are so right about there being no past in politics, as we are still living with consequences of Bush, Carter, Nixon, FDR, Wilson, etc. These things are really starting to add up... It's the living in the past, I have issue with. It offers no solution. Obamanites use it when they have no original statement to make. |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Wed 04/15/09 07:28 AM
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So I guess texans find no conflict with the feds when they want money or when spending my tax dollars while asking for more and more financial and real support at the same time they call for secession? Why should they feel conflicted when they are sending the federal government more than their fair share, and why wouldn't they favor secession whey they support other states. Were not that far from them in that issue here in Ca. In 2007, Texas ranked third in the country in Federal aid! 28,104,228 dollars! http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/fas-07.pdf |
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Texas is 1 of the 9 states currently running a budget surplus...they must be doing something right...add to that list of 9 Alaska... and did it with no state income tax Texans do pay taxes. In fact they are ranked 4th in the nation in total state taxes. (4 Texas….. 32,784,942) What Rose keeps referring to is they rank 49th in per capita tax, but there really isn't that much difference in those ranked along beside them. 46 Missouri….. 1,645.49 47 Colorado….. 1,639.54 48 New Hampshire….. 1,534.94 49 Texas….. 1,434.16 50 South Dakota….. 1,430.46 People have a bad habit at looking at statistics individually without seeing the total picture. Like Lynann's posting. A lot of those statistics can be attributed to the fact that Texas is a Southern State and more importantly a border state. Southern States, particularly border states, have a better look at the illegal immigration problem the US faces, and a larger struggle dealing with the costs. For example lets take the HS dropout rate, literacy, and the population growth in Texas schools. Adult illegal immigrants resist learning to speak English but they do bring their children with them who also can not speak English and therefore they struggle in school for the first few years and their HS dropout rate among their children is around 70%. Northern States see some illegal immigrants, but they are usually illegals who have been in America for quite a few years. Most of them have migrated, for one reason or other, from another more Southern State where the illegal problems are much greater. Southern, and particularly border, states are flooded with illegal immigrants. The Northern States can not and do not fully understand the problem and can not fully understand the problems associated with illegal immigration as we do. Now with that said I have one more thing. Don't get y'alls panties and shorts all bunched up Texas. You are not special and you owe your independence and allegiance to the US. Everyone knows North Carolina is No. 1... Huh, what's funny is my family, middle class, paid twice that just for property tax...lol Then you have income tax, not sure how much that was, but you are usually looking at atleast 25% of the income. Then you have vehicle registration which adds up to about the numbers you mentioned. Then you have sales tax.... So, up here in maine, our taxes paid this year is about $21,000 total. This is our of about $65,000. And Maine isn't even in the top 5 amoung most taxed states acoording to your info... I'm sure when you factor in all the lower class that doesn't pay taxes and gets their money back it all averages out. That's probably where the small numbers come from. Maine has just about the highest number of welfare recipiants as we have no term limits. |
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This is a prefect example of how much in the dark Americans are about their government. There is no such thing as the past in government. Laws and policies that W enacted will effect us and the government years into the future. i do agree. Problem is, Clinton started taking away our rights after the Oklahoma city bombings. Push continued with his patriot act. Now it seems Obama voted to reinstate this act, and his administration now wants to push for the "Fairness Doctrine" which overrides our first amendment, and he wants strict gun control (see HR 45) which overrides our second. You are so right about there being no past in politics, as we are still living with consequences of Bush, Carter, Nixon, FDR, Wilson, etc. These things are really starting to add up... It's the living in the past, I have issue with. It offers no solution. Obamanites use it when they have no original statement to make. This is true as well... |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Wed 04/15/09 07:41 AM
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You know adj. That stuff has been going on for years, so why is it that all of a sudden is it projected on the Internet as something new and astounding? It really means nothing. A reaffirmation? So what. No one is taking away any more state sovereignty since Obama became President than at any other time in history. Anyone who falls for the hype as if it is something new or has any real impact is being duped by the Republicans and Ron Paul, and riled into unnecessary fear. Sheep! Politics over the internet is a relatively new thing. Never you mind, Obama is bound to wanna' touch that to. Ya' think Amnesty will pass? Are you still Pro-Illegal? Pro-illegal? LMAO You really dont know me do you? You say, Never you mind, Obama is bound to wanna' touch that to. Obama has been a pioneer to informing Americans about Gov over the internet! You really dont know much about this either. do ya? LOL Amnesty? Your definition and mine are totally different. Im about reality and humanity! You look at it from an "I am better than they" point, and dont use any rationality at all! As far as Obama and illegal immigration. You really need to open your eyes and look at what has been happening. Obama has done more to address the problem than all the Republicans put together and oodles more than Bush did in all his 8 yrs of dictatorship! |
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This is a prefect example of how much in the dark Americans are about their government. There is no such thing as the past in government. Laws and policies that W enacted will effect us and the government years into the future. i do agree. Problem is, Clinton started taking away our rights after the Oklahoma city bombings. Push continued with his patriot act. Now it seems Obama voted to reinstate this act, and his administration now wants to push for the "Fairness Doctrine" which overrides our first amendment, and he wants strict gun control (see HR 45) which overrides our second. You are so right about there being no past in politics, as we are still living with consequences of Bush, Carter, Nixon, FDR, Wilson, etc. These things are really starting to add up... UG! I so disliked Clinton! Almost as much as Bush! Almost,,, |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Wed 04/15/09 07:53 AM
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You know adj. That stuff has been going on for years, so why is it that all of a sudden is it projected on the Internet as something new and astounding? It really means nothing. A reaffirmation? So what. No one is taking away any more state sovereignty since Obama became President than at any other time in history. Anyone who falls for the hype as if it is something new or has any real impact is being duped by the Republicans and Ron Paul, and riled into unnecessary fear. Sheep! your point is and why ask me and did you read the constitution i provided the link and maybe the bailouts were the turning point do you feel that govt would never do anything that would take away the rights of their people |
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You know adj. That stuff has been going on for years, so why is it that all of a sudden is it projected on the Internet as something new and astounding? It really means nothing. A reaffirmation? So what. No one is taking away any more state sovereignty since Obama became President than at any other time in history. Anyone who falls for the hype as if it is something new or has any real impact is being duped by the Republicans and Ron Paul, and riled into unnecessary fear. Sheep! Politics over the internet is a relatively new thing. Never you mind, Obama is bound to wanna' touch that to. Ya' think Amnesty will pass? Are you still Pro-Illegal? Pro-illegal? LMAO You really dont know me do you? You say, Never you mind, Obama is bound to wanna' touch that to. Obama has been a pioneer to informing Americans about Gov over the internet! You really dont know much about this either. do ya? LOL Your definition and mine are totally different. Im about reality and humanity! You look at it from a I am better than they point, and dont use any rationality at all! As far as Obama and illegal immigration. You really need to open your eyes and look at what has been happening. Obama has done more to address the problem than all the Republicans put together and oodles more than Bush did in all his 8 yrs of dictatorship! Yep, his extremists are all over spreading the propaganda. He sure has done more. He's wanting to give 'em Amnesty. I am about not allowing Illegals taking jobs from Americans. My stance on Illegal Invaders is; No Amnesty, including the Dream Act. Prosecute those who, aide, abet, transport, house or hire the Illegal. Prosecute those who have knowledge of the above and fail to report it. Report the Illegal Deport the Illegal Where do you stand? |
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Edited by
Winx
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Wed 04/15/09 07:51 AM
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Obama sent people to the border to help fight the drug wars.
That's a positive thing. |
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