Really that's not one I've heard... Not saying I doubt you but do you have something we can look at on that? I've never actually seen the treaty

whether we become our own state or not....i'm up in the air about. but as far as federal help....if we contribute to the taxes as well...guess what...we have the rights as other states to use it

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/texas.asp

Sorry I did have to check, that 87% seemed a bit inflated. I knew was incorrect in number but thought maybe volume. Texas capacity is about 4900,000 bbl per day, California is around 2100,000 per day even that is nearly half, and Louisiana has quite a few refineries too. I do understand your point and I know Texas is the biggest state as far as refining but let's keep it reasonable.

As of, February 16, 2009

Nine state legislatures have either passed or introduced bills intended to reaffirm their state's sovereignty as laid out in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments of the Constitution. Another twenty states are expected to introduce similar measures this year. While the ramifications of these resolutions are still uncertain, one thing is clear. People are sick and tired of the federal government's usurpation of power not granted to it by the Constitution. They have had enough of fear based economic terrorism and underhanded promotion of policies and procedures that bypass public scrutiny and the will of the people.

According to the Missouri resolution, "Whereas, the Federal Freedom of Choice Act would nullify any federal or state law enacted, adopted or implemented before, on, or after the date of enactment and would effectively prevent the State of Missouri from enacting similar protective measures in the future...the members of the House of Representatives of the Ninety-fifth General Assembly, hereby declare our sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all power and hereby declare our sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States."

The Arizona bill is a broad statement of the right to sovereignty and its ability to supersede any other action, claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment "over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States. That this Resolution serves as notice and demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers. That all compulsory federal legislation that directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed."

New Hampshire Concurrent Resolution 6 is a direct statement of the desire for sweeping change, stating "any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive order of the President...which assumes a power not delegated to the government of the United States of America by the Constitution...shall constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the [Federal] government." This resolution goes on to state several cases, including further infringement on the right to bear arms, which would cause the state to invoke these measures.

The resolution from the state of Washington's House Joint Memorial 4009 is less aggressive but as broad in scope, taking the form of a cease and desist warning that serves as a "Notice and Demand to the federal government to maintain the balance of powers where the Constitution of the United States established it and to cease and desist, effective immediately, any and all mandates that are beyond the scope of its constitutionally delegated powers."

Still, the fact that two states, California and Georgia, have already passed their versions of state sovereignty may be setting the stage for secession down the road if the federal government continues to show its scorn for the Constitution. The Oklahoma resolution has already passed in the House and is awaiting vote in the state Senate to be codified.

Absolutely! And those saying you should be limited in anyway are just looking to be supported by others.

like i said...i get to rule the top half of texas

we've been trying to split Ca in to two states for years, if you get the top half of Texas I get the bottom half of Cali

i'll allow that

Great so it's settled, you're on top and I'm on the bottom.

Wow I didn't realized we'd managed to get that far in Ca, thanks.

I got the bottom half.

I cannot take credit for this. A fellow farker posted it on a thread there. It is right on though so I thought I would post it here for your consideration.

mactobain [TotalFark] Quote 2009-04-14 03:17:41 PM

Rick Perry is sweating his ass off right now.

Not only did he throw his name behind Guilliani who crashed and burned in the last Primary, he will be facing Kay Bailey Hutchison in HIS next primary who is more intelligent and overall more of a Republican that he will ever be. (History lesson: Perry started his career as a Democrat until Carl Rove talked him into switching sides)

Long story short, Perry will do everything in his power to show people how 'conservative' and 'Republican" he really is.

I expect his anti-Washington /anti-Obama Administration rants to intensify in the next year.

Kinky Friedman is going to run again. Id like to see a Kinky vs Larry Kilgore matchup. That would be something to watch.

Yes, that is a rational idea. Let's have every state secede. Then just watch as each state decides, "well I don't think we need to pay for the up keep our part of the interstate." or, "let's kick everyone that gets social services out of our state." maybe you would like to of course make abortion, homosexuality, oral sex, the practice of any religion besides yours and so on illegal and then sell gun at the corner liquor store.

Please, could someone list clearly and with some rational thought, tell us what exactly they think their state should not be responsible for that the "government" is forcing on them? What rights exactly are they being denied. It all comes down to money and I am sorry to say, each state has representatives that have been voting for whatever it is you are complaining about. People of this country are behaving like either crabs in a barrel or rats on a sinking ship.

PITIFUL PITIFUL PITIFUL

For one, he sold us out to the European bankers. Europe now has a say in how the country is to be run. Unconstitutional.
Secondly, he wants to strip our right to assemble.
Thirdly, he wants to add 12 to 18 million more Illegals to our already stressed Social system and job market.
If that's not enough to be fed up with his BS, more can be listed.
He's using our Constitution to wipe his a$$ with.

maybe you can go ask W and his cronies for some of the trillions of dollars they sole in their little war. I think he is actually from Texass

Oh and just a reminder< we don't live in a dictatorship, therefore it is rather misleading to say "he".

Bush has been gone for a while. I didn't vote for either Bushes.

We are in the present. Hussein is attempting to enslave you.

If you've been blinded, I can't help you. You will just have to wait until his policy affects you on a personal level.

Why have you no argument against what I just posted?