Topic: White Males Need Not Apply For Stimulus Package
MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:04 PM

So discrimmination can only happen when the majority population keeps the minority population from getting a job???
:smile: Its not the only way.:smile:

Delsoldamien's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:07 PM
so when affirmative action prevents a majority population from getting a job instead of a minority population..based purely on their race..it is ok...right.

willing2's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:07 PM
The only fair way to hire would be strictly on qualification and placing a bid on how much you were willing to accept to do the job.

That's why I Faxed Obama with that idea and the idea to abolish the obsolete Min. Wage. The Corps could get good, qualified labor at a cheaper rate. Mo' money fo' da' Man!

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:12 PM

so when affirmative action prevents a majority population from getting a job instead of a minority population..based purely on their race..it is ok...right.
bigsmile Good thing thats not what Affirmative Action doesbigsmile

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:13 PM

The only fair way to hire would be strictly on qualification and placing a bid on how much you were willing to accept to do the job.

That's why I Faxed Obama with that idea and the idea to abolish the obsolete Min. Wage. The Corps could get good, qualified labor at a cheaper rate. Mo' money fo' da' Man!
:smile: We had to have A.A. because people were NOT being hired based on qualifications.:smile:

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:16 PM
:smile: Im not going to discuss racial and sexual orientation issues with right wing republicans because it only serves to bring validation to their views.:smile: It makes people who dont know any better think they are espousing an alternative when actually they just want to undo hundreds of years of social advancement.:smile:

willing2's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:22 PM


The only fair way to hire would be strictly on qualification and placing a bid on how much you were willing to accept to do the job.

That's why I Faxed Obama with that idea and the idea to abolish the obsolete Min. Wage. The Corps could get good, qualified labor at a cheaper rate. Mo' money fo' da' Man!
:smile: We had to have A.A. because people were NOT being hired based on qualifications.:smile:

I don't dispute that.
As it is now, the Employer states the job, description, rate of pay, and benis.

To make it even more fair, Meet the qualifications. Delete what the salary would be and benis. Then, allow sealed bidding. Whoever gives the Employer the best deal, hire 'em. If they are willing to work for less than Min. Wage, let 'em. Supplement the income with your Social Programs.

Win, win.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:34 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Fri 04/10/09 02:36 PM



The only fair way to hire would be strictly on qualification and placing a bid on how much you were willing to accept to do the job.

That's why I Faxed Obama with that idea and the idea to abolish the obsolete Min. Wage. The Corps could get good, qualified labor at a cheaper rate. Mo' money fo' da' Man!
:smile: We had to have A.A. because people were NOT being hired based on qualifications.:smile:

I don't dispute that.
As it is now, the Employer states the job, description, rate of pay, and benis.

To make it even more fair, Meet the qualifications. Delete what the salary would be and benis. Then, allow sealed bidding. Whoever gives the Employer the best deal, hire 'em. If they are willing to work for less than Min. Wage, let 'em. Supplement the income with your Social Programs.

Win, win.

laugh You must be joking!laugh

laugh No freaking way!:smile: That's the way it was a long time ago and we had people working for pennys a day (and starving to death while doing so)and chaining kids to machines in factories.:cry: NO FREAKING WAY!:smile: That would turn our country into a hell on Earth.:smile: I dont think you really believe this:smile:

willing2's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:39 PM
Edited by willing2 on Fri 04/10/09 02:42 PM




The only fair way to hire would be strictly on qualification and placing a bid on how much you were willing to accept to do the job.

That's why I Faxed Obama with that idea and the idea to abolish the obsolete Min. Wage. The Corps could get good, qualified labor at a cheaper rate. Mo' money fo' da' Man!
:smile: We had to have A.A. because people were NOT being hired based on qualifications.:smile:

I don't dispute that.
As it is now, the Employer states the job, description, rate of pay, and benis.

To make it even more fair, Meet the qualifications. Delete what the salary would be and benis. Then, allow sealed bidding. Whoever gives the Employer the best deal, hire 'em. If they are willing to work for less than Min. Wage, let 'em. Supplement the income with your Social Programs.

Win, win.

laugh You must be joking!laugh

laugh No freaking way!:smile: That's the way it was a long time ago and we had people working for pennys a day (and starving to death while doing so)and chaining kids to machines in factories.:cry: NO FREAKING WAY!:smile: That would turn our country into a hell on Earth.:smile: I dont think you really believe this:smile:

No, seriously. This is the suggestion I Faxed on Thursday.
And I even signed my real name with real contact info and all.
I mean, if we're gonna' get Liberal, let's do it all the way.

Mr President

I humbly suggest abolish the minimum wage scale. In these hard economic times, I believe it to be obsolete.
Supply and demand. More unemployed and fewer jobs.
Adding 12 to 20 million new legal residents, all competing for jobs along with the millions of unemployed Americans, should be given the opportunity to bid, how much they would be willing to accept as as a wage on the jobs they seek. The lowest bid, matching the qualifications, should be awarded to that person.
Being Bi-lingual should be mandatory in the workplace, at least when working with the public.

Your servant,

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:42 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Fri 04/10/09 02:46 PM





The only fair way to hire would be strictly on qualification and placing a bid on how much you were willing to accept to do the job.

That's why I Faxed Obama with that idea and the idea to abolish the obsolete Min. Wage. The Corps could get good, qualified labor at a cheaper rate. Mo' money fo' da' Man!
:smile: We had to have A.A. because people were NOT being hired based on qualifications.:smile:

I don't dispute that.
As it is now, the Employer states the job, description, rate of pay, and benis.

To make it even more fair, Meet the qualifications. Delete what the salary would be and benis. Then, allow sealed bidding. Whoever gives the Employer the best deal, hire 'em. If they are willing to work for less than Min. Wage, let 'em. Supplement the income with your Social Programs.

Win, win.

laugh You must be joking!laugh

laugh No freaking way!:smile: That's the way it was a long time ago and we had people working for pennys a day (and starving to death while doing so)and chaining kids to machines in factories.:cry: NO FREAKING WAY!:smile: That would turn our country into a hell on Earth.:smile: I dont think you really believe this:smile:

No, seriously. This is the suggestion I Faxed on Thursday.
And I even signed my real name with real contact info and all.

Mr President

I humbly suggest abolish the minimum wage scale. In these hard economic times, I believe it to be obsolete.
Supply and demand. More unemployed and fewer jobs.
Adding 12 to 20 million new legal residents, all competing for jobs along with the millions of unemployed Americans, should be given the opportunity to bid, how much they would be willing to accept as as a wage on the jobs they seek. The lowest bid, matching the qualifications, should be awarded to that person.
Being Bi-lingual should be mandatory in the workplace, at least when working with the public.

Your servant,



laugh Im speechless.laughI really ambigsmileFor your sake, I just hope you are meaning that in a satirical sense.bigsmile




laugh That is just beyond right wing or ultra conservative.laugh Its a category all its own.:smile:

willing2's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:45 PM






The only fair way to hire would be strictly on qualification and placing a bid on how much you were willing to accept to do the job.

That's why I Faxed Obama with that idea and the idea to abolish the obsolete Min. Wage. The Corps could get good, qualified labor at a cheaper rate. Mo' money fo' da' Man!
:smile: We had to have A.A. because people were NOT being hired based on qualifications.:smile:

I don't dispute that.
As it is now, the Employer states the job, description, rate of pay, and benis.

To make it even more fair, Meet the qualifications. Delete what the salary would be and benis. Then, allow sealed bidding. Whoever gives the Employer the best deal, hire 'em. If they are willing to work for less than Min. Wage, let 'em. Supplement the income with your Social Programs.

Win, win.

laugh You must be joking!laugh

laugh No freaking way!:smile: That's the way it was a long time ago and we had people working for pennys a day (and starving to death while doing so)and chaining kids to machines in factories.:cry: NO FREAKING WAY!:smile: That would turn our country into a hell on Earth.:smile: I dont think you really believe this:smile:

No, seriously. This is the suggestion I Faxed on Thursday.
And I even signed my real name with real contact info and all.

Mr President

I humbly suggest abolish the minimum wage scale. In these hard economic times, I believe it to be obsolete.
Supply and demand. More unemployed and fewer jobs.
Adding 12 to 20 million new legal residents, all competing for jobs along with the millions of unemployed Americans, should be given the opportunity to bid, how much they would be willing to accept as as a wage on the jobs they seek. The lowest bid, matching the qualifications, should be awarded to that person.
Being Bi-lingual should be mandatory in the workplace, at least when working with the public.

Your servant,



laugh Im speechless.laughI really ambigsmileFor your sake, I just hope you are meaning that in a satirical sense.bigsmile

Read my lips.
I sent it Fax on Thursday.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:49 PM







The only fair way to hire would be strictly on qualification and placing a bid on how much you were willing to accept to do the job.

That's why I Faxed Obama with that idea and the idea to abolish the obsolete Min. Wage. The Corps could get good, qualified labor at a cheaper rate. Mo' money fo' da' Man!
:smile: We had to have A.A. because people were NOT being hired based on qualifications.:smile:

I don't dispute that.
As it is now, the Employer states the job, description, rate of pay, and benis.

To make it even more fair, Meet the qualifications. Delete what the salary would be and benis. Then, allow sealed bidding. Whoever gives the Employer the best deal, hire 'em. If they are willing to work for less than Min. Wage, let 'em. Supplement the income with your Social Programs.

Win, win.

laugh You must be joking!laugh

laugh No freaking way!:smile: That's the way it was a long time ago and we had people working for pennys a day (and starving to death while doing so)and chaining kids to machines in factories.:cry: NO FREAKING WAY!:smile: That would turn our country into a hell on Earth.:smile: I dont think you really believe this:smile:

No, seriously. This is the suggestion I Faxed on Thursday.
And I even signed my real name with real contact info and all.

Mr President

I humbly suggest abolish the minimum wage scale. In these hard economic times, I believe it to be obsolete.
Supply and demand. More unemployed and fewer jobs.
Adding 12 to 20 million new legal residents, all competing for jobs along with the millions of unemployed Americans, should be given the opportunity to bid, how much they would be willing to accept as as a wage on the jobs they seek. The lowest bid, matching the qualifications, should be awarded to that person.
Being Bi-lingual should be mandatory in the workplace, at least when working with the public.

Your servant,



laugh Im speechless.laughI really ambigsmileFor your sake, I just hope you are meaning that in a satirical sense.bigsmile

Read my lips.
I sent it Fax on Thursday.



drinks I know ,and I believe you ,and I can appreciate the sarcastic sense of humor.biggrin And its certainly is your right to do that.biggrinI dont think you meant that idea seriously.biggrin You seem to mean it as a statement and I can appreciate that.biggrin

adj4u's photo
Fri 04/10/09 02:56 PM
here is a novel idea (and i do mean novel)

go read it

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1

no photo
Fri 04/10/09 03:01 PM

Can you make up for past bad behavior by using bad behavior today?? You say that in order to rectify past racism you need to be racist aginst people now..that doesn't make sense..


Wish you would use quotes so we know who you are referring to, if it was me then you didn't get what I said. Let's not pretend that if affirmative action was gone tommorow that the white race would'nt go right back to hiring according to race. I'd like to think that we have evolved but it's clear we aren't done with race issues completely yet.

willing2's photo
Fri 04/10/09 03:03 PM








The only fair way to hire would be strictly on qualification and placing a bid on how much you were willing to accept to do the job.

That's why I Faxed Obama with that idea and the idea to abolish the obsolete Min. Wage. The Corps could get good, qualified labor at a cheaper rate. Mo' money fo' da' Man!
:smile: We had to have A.A. because people were NOT being hired based on qualifications.:smile:

I don't dispute that.
As it is now, the Employer states the job, description, rate of pay, and benis.

To make it even more fair, Meet the qualifications. Delete what the salary would be and benis. Then, allow sealed bidding. Whoever gives the Employer the best deal, hire 'em. If they are willing to work for less than Min. Wage, let 'em. Supplement the income with your Social Programs.

Win, win.

laugh You must be joking!laugh

laugh No freaking way!:smile: That's the way it was a long time ago and we had people working for pennys a day (and starving to death while doing so)and chaining kids to machines in factories.:cry: NO FREAKING WAY!:smile: That would turn our country into a hell on Earth.:smile: I dont think you really believe this:smile:

No, seriously. This is the suggestion I Faxed on Thursday.
And I even signed my real name with real contact info and all.

Mr President

I humbly suggest abolish the minimum wage scale. In these hard economic times, I believe it to be obsolete.
Supply and demand. More unemployed and fewer jobs.
Adding 12 to 20 million new legal residents, all competing for jobs along with the millions of unemployed Americans, should be given the opportunity to bid, how much they would be willing to accept as as a wage on the jobs they seek. The lowest bid, matching the qualifications, should be awarded to that person.
Being Bi-lingual should be mandatory in the workplace, at least when working with the public.

Your servant,



laugh Im speechless.laughI really ambigsmileFor your sake, I just hope you are meaning that in a satirical sense.bigsmile

Read my lips.
I sent it Fax on Thursday.



drinks I know ,and I believe you ,and I can appreciate the sarcastic sense of humor.biggrin And its certainly is your right to do that.biggrinI dont think you meant that idea seriously.biggrin You seem to mean it as a statement and I can appreciate that.biggrin

No Sir,
I meant it as it is written. No sarcasm, at least I hope they don't read it that way.
You see, all this time I've been bucking the Liberal system. Trying to input what I feel, is in the best interests of the American and Legal Immigrant.
Now, I will act in my own interest.
As I explained to Fanta, I am a business man and also a disabled vet. When I hire Part-Time hourly people, it cost an arm and a leg just to get them hired. I want more bang for my buck, just like a Major Corporations.
As it is now, I am forced to pay a Min Scale. This plan would put more in my pocket and more into the pockets of the Big Boys.
I am moving back to the border in a couple weeks.
I not only will restart a bus. there, I rented a couple buildings in Mexico and will open 2 Hamburger joints there. I will also, legally, purchase, name brand cigarettes and resell them through my Pay-Pal Account. Just checking to see how much shipping will be from Mexico.
Like I said before, if we're gonna' get Liberal, let's not do it half-a$$ed.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 04/10/09 03:18 PM









The only fair way to hire would be strictly on qualification and placing a bid on how much you were willing to accept to do the job.

That's why I Faxed Obama with that idea and the idea to abolish the obsolete Min. Wage. The Corps could get good, qualified labor at a cheaper rate. Mo' money fo' da' Man!
:smile: We had to have A.A. because people were NOT being hired based on qualifications.:smile:

I don't dispute that.
As it is now, the Employer states the job, description, rate of pay, and benis.

To make it even more fair, Meet the qualifications. Delete what the salary would be and benis. Then, allow sealed bidding. Whoever gives the Employer the best deal, hire 'em. If they are willing to work for less than Min. Wage, let 'em. Supplement the income with your Social Programs.

Win, win.

laugh You must be joking!laugh

laugh No freaking way!:smile: That's the way it was a long time ago and we had people working for pennys a day (and starving to death while doing so)and chaining kids to machines in factories.:cry: NO FREAKING WAY!:smile: That would turn our country into a hell on Earth.:smile: I dont think you really believe this:smile:

No, seriously. This is the suggestion I Faxed on Thursday.
And I even signed my real name with real contact info and all.

Mr President

I humbly suggest abolish the minimum wage scale. In these hard economic times, I believe it to be obsolete.
Supply and demand. More unemployed and fewer jobs.
Adding 12 to 20 million new legal residents, all competing for jobs along with the millions of unemployed Americans, should be given the opportunity to bid, how much they would be willing to accept as as a wage on the jobs they seek. The lowest bid, matching the qualifications, should be awarded to that person.
Being Bi-lingual should be mandatory in the workplace, at least when working with the public.

Your servant,



laugh Im speechless.laughI really ambigsmileFor your sake, I just hope you are meaning that in a satirical sense.bigsmile

Read my lips.
I sent it Fax on Thursday.



drinks I know ,and I believe you ,and I can appreciate the sarcastic sense of humor.biggrin And its certainly is your right to do that.biggrinI dont think you meant that idea seriously.biggrin You seem to mean it as a statement and I can appreciate that.biggrin

No Sir,
I meant it as it is written. No sarcasm, at least I hope they don't read it that way.
You see, all this time I've been bucking the Liberal system. Trying to input what I feel, is in the best interests of the American and Legal Immigrant.
Now, I will act in my own interest.
As I explained to Fanta, I am a business man and also a disabled vet. When I hire Part-Time hourly people, it cost an arm and a leg just to get them hired. I want more bang for my buck, just like a Major Corporations.
As it is now, I am forced to pay a Min Scale. This plan would put more in my pocket and more into the pockets of the Big Boys.
I am moving back to the border in a couple weeks.
I not only will restart a bus. there, I rented a couple buildings in Mexico and will open 2 Hamburger joints there. I will also, legally, purchase, name brand cigarettes and resell them through my Pay-Pal Account. Just checking to see how much shipping will be from Mexico.
Like I said before, if we're gonna' get Liberal, let's not do it half-a$$ed.
laugh Well, at least you got a plan. laugh


*laughing in a good natured way*

nogames39's photo
Fri 04/10/09 08:20 PM


Yep, I have watched the video.

The point still stands, that Obama policies are racist.

"I am concerned, as I'm sure many of you are, that these jobs not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers," he said.


Of course, if the jobs went to black male construction workers, that would be just fine with Obama.


I am curious if you thought Obama was racist when you voted for him, Nogames? If you think his policies are racist is it a stretch to think you believe he is?


It doesn't matter why did I vote for him. May-be I thought it would be a good chance to put a fool on a president chair, as a lesson for future...? Doesn't matter.

What matters is Obama does not want to give jobs to white male construction workers, but he would give those same jobs to black male construction workers. The only difference here is the color. What is allowed to black, is not allowed to white.

Solely on the basis of color. This is defined as RACISM.

Winx's photo
Fri 04/10/09 08:49 PM

So should there be affirmative action groups for blonde women, or short men, or people with big ears, or body piercings?? When you have people, you will always have some type of discrimmination, or preferences...tell me how giving someone a job because they fit a particular gender or race group provides equal oppertunities for those more then able to perform the job, but don't get it because they were in the wrong category for that job??


Yeah, right, blonde women can't get jobs because they're blonde.laugh Same for the rest of the ones that you mentioned.

You're question makes no sense to me. Affirmative Action is not talking about hiring people that are less then able to perform the job. They're talking about black people with the same qualifications as the white people that are applying for the same job.

Winx's photo
Fri 04/10/09 08:54 PM

Any system based on race or putting one race over another is by its nature, racist. Even if it is done for the best reasons.Hiring should be done based purely on ability, not to fit a particular race or gender category.



It's not putting one race over another!! When I was younger, I worked in Human Resources. We had Affirmation Action. It doesn't work like that!

Winx's photo
Fri 04/10/09 08:55 PM


So discrimmination is ok??
bigsmile Nope and thats why we have affirmative actionbigsmile To gradually bring an end to discrimination in the workplace.bigsmile


:thumbsup: