Topic: White Males Need Not Apply For Stimulus Package
Winx's photo
Tue 04/07/09 10:24 PM


Helping the “long term unemployed." drinker The people that have lost so many jobs in their towns.

..and haven't done crap about it


What? Are they supposed to move?

nogames39's photo
Tue 04/07/09 10:26 PM


What? Are they supposed to move?


No, god forbid! Just sit and wait till the federal government robs everyone else at the gun point, and bails them out.

Winx's photo
Tue 04/07/09 10:36 PM



What? Are they supposed to move?


No, god forbid! Just sit and wait till the federal government robs everyone else at the gun point, and bails them out.


It's most difficult to move families and leave families. It's even more difficult when you have no money. I can't move. My child's father is here.


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Tue 04/07/09 10:39 PM


It's most difficult to move families and leave families. It's even more difficult when you have no money. I can't move. My child's father is here.




That is what I am saying. Of course. On the other hand, I can go ahead and work for my needs and for yours. Why not? A beautiful arrangement, is it not?

Hey, I also happen to have a nice luxurious car. And yet, I have no "need" of it. On the other hand, other people may need it very much. You do get my drift?

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Tue 04/07/09 10:47 PM
We are not white, we are Caucasian! Atleast thats what my drivers license says O_Olaugh

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Tue 04/07/09 10:56 PM
I listened to this tape twice to be sure I heard what I heard.

I am beginning to think we have a problem with attention. It's interesting that they showed such a tiny piece of Reichs comments, but for good reason it seems.

What Reich actually said in that brief section was 'These jobs should not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals. Or to white male construction workers..' What his is saying in even plainer English is that these jobs should not 'JUST' go to highly skilled professionals and white male construction workers. Geez it's so plain and yet...

He is not saying that whites should be excluded or that only minorities get those jobs. Not to mention that Fox's sound bite was printed plain as day on the the show screen, yet it was not the words of Reich.. Did any of you even notice that?

Talk about twisting of words. How does one get 'Stimulus cash should go to unskilled and minority workers' out of that? Some of you heard exactly what Fox and Michelle wanted you to take from it, and you did exactly as they expected you to do.. This is how riots get started with bs like this, get the people angry, fire up their prejudices against one issue or the other.

Michelle clearly doesn't mind following the rhetoric and making it even more outrageous by repeating it over and over.

I can't believe that rational people could not see right through that.. just stunning. She totally distorted what was actually said.

I love how Fox plays good guy bad guy momentarily but then leaves you with the exact message they want you to have in the end. Man, they know how to manipulate the attention span don't they?

Winx's photo
Tue 04/07/09 11:00 PM



It's most difficult to move families and leave families. It's even more difficult when you have no money. I can't move. My child's father is here.




That is what I am saying. Of course. On the other hand, I can go ahead and work for my needs and for yours. Why not? A beautiful arrangement, is it not?

Hey, I also happen to have a nice luxurious car. And yet, I have no "need" of it. On the other hand, other people may need it very much. You do get my drift?


Yes, I get your drift. I am more empathic then that.

Winx's photo
Tue 04/07/09 11:04 PM

I listened to this tape twice to be sure I heard what I heard.

I am beginning to think we have a problem with attention. It's interesting that they showed such a tiny piece of Reichs comments, but for good reason it seems.

What Reich actually said in that brief section was 'These jobs should not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals. Or to white male construction workers..' What his is saying in even plainer English is that these jobs should not 'JUST' go to highly skilled professionals and white male construction workers. Geez it's so plain and yet...

He is not saying that whites should be excluded or that only minorities get those jobs. Not to mention that Fox's sound bite was printed plain as day on the the show screen, yet it was not the words of Reich.. Did any of you even notice that?

Talk about twisting of words. How does one get 'Stimulus cash should go to unskilled and minority workers' out of that? Some of you heard exactly what Fox and Michelle wanted you to take from it, and you did exactly as they expected you to do.. This is how riots get started with bs like this, get the people angry, fire up their prejudices against one issue or the other.

Michelle clearly doesn't mind following the rhetoric and making it even more outrageous by repeating it over and over.

I can't believe that rational people could not see right through that.. just stunning. She totally distorted what was actually said.

I love how Fox plays good guy bad guy momentarily but then leaves you with the exact message they want you to have in the end. Man, they know how to manipulate the attention span don't they?


Yes, I noticed that.:angry:

I've just listened to it twice. He said that the money will not just to go to them. Fox printed something totally different and we looked at that while Reich was talking.

I can't believe that they did that.frustrated rant

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Tue 04/07/09 11:09 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Tue 04/07/09 11:11 PM


I listened to this tape twice to be sure I heard what I heard.

I am beginning to think we have a problem with attention. It's interesting that they showed such a tiny piece of Reichs comments, but for good reason it seems.

What Reich actually said in that brief section was 'These jobs should not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals. Or to white male construction workers..' What his is saying in even plainer English is that these jobs should not 'JUST' go to highly skilled professionals and white male construction workers. Geez it's so plain and yet...

He is not saying that whites should be excluded or that only minorities get those jobs. Not to mention that Fox's sound bite was printed plain as day on the the show screen, yet it was not the words of Reich.. Did any of you even notice that?

Talk about twisting of words. How does one get 'Stimulus cash should go to unskilled and minority workers' out of that? Some of you heard exactly what Fox and Michelle wanted you to take from it, and you did exactly as they expected you to do.. This is how riots get started with bs like this, get the people angry, fire up their prejudices against one issue or the other.

Michelle clearly doesn't mind following the rhetoric and making it even more outrageous by repeating it over and over.

I can't believe that rational people could not see right through that.. just stunning. She totally distorted what was actually said.

I love how Fox plays good guy bad guy momentarily but then leaves you with the exact message they want you to have in the end. Man, they know how to manipulate the attention span don't they?


Yes, I noticed that.:angry:

I've just listened to it twice. He said that the money will not just to go to them. Fox printed something totally different and we looked at that while Reich was talking.

I can't believe that they did that.frustrated rant



So who is to blame , Fox News?

I think many people take offense on the bailout money "not going" to white construction workers, that's not what troubles me.
Even if what he said that "not only going to" it won't make it better.



My problem is, that why bring color into this? What is the difference between a "white" construction worker vs. "black" or even "latino" construction worker?

He could have said "the bailout money will not only go for construction workers" but instead he said "white construction workers"

What his statement implies that there are perhaps only white construction workers?
Or does it imply that white construction workers are the 'working force'?

I'm not sure how to understand his statement...really, it doesn't matter which angle you are looking at it, the guy booked himself as a bigot and a racist.

That is what bugging me.

nogames39's photo
Tue 04/07/09 11:10 PM

I listened to this tape twice to be sure I heard what I heard.

I am beginning to think we have a problem with attention. It's interesting that they showed such a tiny piece of Reichs comments, but for good reason it seems.

What Reich actually said in that brief section was 'These jobs should not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals. Or to white male construction workers..' What his is saying in even plainer English is that these jobs should not 'JUST' go to highly skilled professionals and white male construction workers. Geez it's so plain and yet...

He is not saying that whites should be excluded or that only minorities get those jobs. Not to mention that Fox's sound bite was printed plain as day on the the show screen, yet it was not the words of Reich.. Did any of you even notice that?

Talk about twisting of words. How does one get 'Stimulus cash should go to unskilled and minority workers' out of that? Some of you heard exactly what Fox and Michelle wanted you to take from it, and you did exactly as they expected you to do.. This is how riots get started with bs like this, get the people angry, fire up their prejudices against one issue or the other.

Michelle clearly doesn't mind following the rhetoric and making it even more outrageous by repeating it over and over.

I can't believe that rational people could not see right through that.. just stunning. She totally distorted what was actually said.

I love how Fox plays good guy bad guy momentarily but then leaves you with the exact message they want you to have in the end. Man, they know how to manipulate the attention span don't they?


Haha,

Boo, let me play your game?

Let us reverse the roles, let us have him say this:

"These jobs should not simply go to do nothing bums who are already on the dope. Or to black female prostitutes.."


Still does not sound as racial and societal discriminative?

Winx's photo
Tue 04/07/09 11:12 PM



I listened to this tape twice to be sure I heard what I heard.

I am beginning to think we have a problem with attention. It's interesting that they showed such a tiny piece of Reichs comments, but for good reason it seems.

What Reich actually said in that brief section was 'These jobs should not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals. Or to white male construction workers..' What his is saying in even plainer English is that these jobs should not 'JUST' go to highly skilled professionals and white male construction workers. Geez it's so plain and yet...

He is not saying that whites should be excluded or that only minorities get those jobs. Not to mention that Fox's sound bite was printed plain as day on the the show screen, yet it was not the words of Reich.. Did any of you even notice that?

Talk about twisting of words. How does one get 'Stimulus cash should go to unskilled and minority workers' out of that? Some of you heard exactly what Fox and Michelle wanted you to take from it, and you did exactly as they expected you to do.. This is how riots get started with bs like this, get the people angry, fire up their prejudices against one issue or the other.

Michelle clearly doesn't mind following the rhetoric and making it even more outrageous by repeating it over and over.

I can't believe that rational people could not see right through that.. just stunning. She totally distorted what was actually said.

I love how Fox plays good guy bad guy momentarily but then leaves you with the exact message they want you to have in the end. Man, they know how to manipulate the attention span don't they?


Yes, I noticed that.:angry:

I've just listened to it twice. He said that the money will not just to go to them. Fox printed something totally different and we looked at that while Reich was talking.

I can't believe that they did that.frustrated rant



So who is to blame , Fox News?

I think many people take offense on the bailout money "not going" to white construction workers, that's not what troubles me.
Even if what he said that "not only going to" it won't make it better.


My problem is, that why bring color into this? What is the difference between a "white" construction worker vs. "black" or even "latino" construction worker?

He could have said "the bailout money will not only go for construction workers" but instead he said "white construction workers"

That is what bugging me.


In my city, there are way more white construction workers. There are very few black construction workers. They've recently been trying to get more black people and people of color to go to trade school to become construction workers.

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Tue 04/07/09 11:18 PM



I listened to this tape twice to be sure I heard what I heard.

I am beginning to think we have a problem with attention. It's interesting that they showed such a tiny piece of Reichs comments, but for good reason it seems.

What Reich actually said in that brief section was 'These jobs should not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals. Or to white male construction workers..' What his is saying in even plainer English is that these jobs should not 'JUST' go to highly skilled professionals and white male construction workers. Geez it's so plain and yet...

He is not saying that whites should be excluded or that only minorities get those jobs. Not to mention that Fox's sound bite was printed plain as day on the the show screen, yet it was not the words of Reich.. Did any of you even notice that?

Talk about twisting of words. How does one get 'Stimulus cash should go to unskilled and minority workers' out of that? Some of you heard exactly what Fox and Michelle wanted you to take from it, and you did exactly as they expected you to do.. This is how riots get started with bs like this, get the people angry, fire up their prejudices against one issue or the other.

Michelle clearly doesn't mind following the rhetoric and making it even more outrageous by repeating it over and over.

I can't believe that rational people could not see right through that.. just stunning. She totally distorted what was actually said.

I love how Fox plays good guy bad guy momentarily but then leaves you with the exact message they want you to have in the end. Man, they know how to manipulate the attention span don't they?


Yes, I noticed that.:angry:

I've just listened to it twice. He said that the money will not just to go to them. Fox printed something totally different and we looked at that while Reich was talking.

I can't believe that they did that.frustrated rant



So who is to blame , Fox News?

I think many people take offense on the bailout money "not going" to white construction workers, that's not what troubles me.
Even if what he said that "not only going to" it won't make it better.



My problem is, that why bring color into this? What is the difference between a "white" construction worker vs. "black" or even "latino" construction worker?

He could have said "the bailout money will not only go for construction workers" but instead he said "white construction workers"

What his statement implies that there are perhaps only white construction workers?
Or does it imply that white construction workers are the 'working force'?

I'm not sure how to understand his statement...really, it doesn't matter which angle you are looking at it, the guy booked himself as a bigot and a racist.

That is what bugging me.


I did not hear that at all, it might be helpful to see the whole conversation and not just a brief clip, but it was obvious that fox twisted the words themselves to mean what they wanted it to mean, can't get much clearer than that I am afraid. Why Reich felt it nessessary to distinguish, I could not say with out seeing the whole video..

Winx's photo
Tue 04/07/09 11:19 PM
For all we know, he was asked the question that way. I'm going to search for more info. on it tomorrow.

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Tue 04/07/09 11:22 PM


I listened to this tape twice to be sure I heard what I heard.

I am beginning to think we have a problem with attention. It's interesting that they showed such a tiny piece of Reichs comments, but for good reason it seems.

What Reich actually said in that brief section was 'These jobs should not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals. Or to white male construction workers..' What his is saying in even plainer English is that these jobs should not 'JUST' go to highly skilled professionals and white male construction workers. Geez it's so plain and yet...

He is not saying that whites should be excluded or that only minorities get those jobs. Not to mention that Fox's sound bite was printed plain as day on the the show screen, yet it was not the words of Reich.. Did any of you even notice that?

Talk about twisting of words. How does one get 'Stimulus cash should go to unskilled and minority workers' out of that? Some of you heard exactly what Fox and Michelle wanted you to take from it, and you did exactly as they expected you to do.. This is how riots get started with bs like this, get the people angry, fire up their prejudices against one issue or the other.

Michelle clearly doesn't mind following the rhetoric and making it even more outrageous by repeating it over and over.

I can't believe that rational people could not see right through that.. just stunning. She totally distorted what was actually said.

I love how Fox plays good guy bad guy momentarily but then leaves you with the exact message they want you to have in the end. Man, they know how to manipulate the attention span don't they?


Haha,

Boo, let me play your game?

Let us reverse the roles, let us have him say this:

"These jobs should not simply go to do nothing bums who are already on the dope. Or to black female prostitutes.."


Still does not sound as racial and societal discriminative?


I have had a very very long day, Nogames, and beleive me I am not in the habit of playing games, you of all people should know that. I am really not that interested in this thread other than to prevent obvious bs from being called truth.

Do nothing bums and black female prostitutes? Sorry Nogames, I am not into playing word games with such words. I am more interested in seeing the full video, not some manipulated utube video that is meant to get a rise out of some folks, which it clearly did.

warmachine's photo
Wed 04/08/09 04:01 AM

Racism against whites. What else is new?


On the side note, Michelle Malkin is definitely hot. Pretty and smart, what a killing combination!



Michelle Malkin wrote a book about how it would be good to put dissenting Americans in camps.
She's also the idiot who kept saying that the puppy throwing soldier was fake, even though the Military was bringing charges against him. Malkin is a Idealogical psychopath.

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Wed 04/08/09 07:40 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Wed 04/08/09 07:41 AM

I listened to this tape twice to be sure I heard what I heard.

I am beginning to think we have a problem with attention. It's interesting that they showed such a tiny piece of Reichs comments, but for good reason it seems.

What Reich actually said in that brief section was 'These jobs should not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals. Or to white male construction workers..' What his is saying in even plainer English is that these jobs should not 'JUST' go to highly skilled professionals and white male construction workers. Geez it's so plain and yet...

He is not saying that whites should be excluded or that only minorities get those jobs. Not to mention that Fox's sound bite was printed plain as day on the the show screen, yet it was not the words of Reich.. Did any of you even notice that?

Talk about twisting of words. How does one get 'Stimulus cash should go to unskilled and minority workers' out of that? Some of you heard exactly what Fox and Michelle wanted you to take from it, and you did exactly as they expected you to do.. This is how riots get started with bs like this, get the people angry, fire up their prejudices against one issue or the other.

Michelle clearly doesn't mind following the rhetoric and making it even more outrageous by repeating it over and over.

I can't believe that rational people could not see right through that.. just stunning. She totally distorted what was actually said.

I love how Fox plays good guy bad guy momentarily but then leaves you with the exact message they want you to have in the end. Man, they know how to manipulate the attention span don't they?


It just go to show how important comprehension is boo.

Sometimes people just hear what they want to hear.

By the way, the date on that news clip is Jan 22, 2009.

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Wed 04/08/09 07:52 AM
It is a shortened clip from c-span, taken on 1/7/09 during an economic recovery plan meeting before Congress.

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Wed 04/08/09 07:54 AM


Helping the “long term unemployed." drinker The people that have lost so many jobs in their towns.

..and haven't done crap about it


How do you know people who have lost jobs and haven't found new ones haven't done anything about it?

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Wed 04/08/09 07:56 AM
Obama adviser: White males need not apply
Robert Reich tells House panel stimulus package should emphasize 'social return' over worker skill


Posted: January 22, 2009
12:17 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily

A top economic adviser to President Obama has told a congressional panel the billions of dollars in the proposed economic stimulus plan should be allocated with social issues in mind, to make sure the money doesn't go to just "white male construction workers" or the highly skilled.

Robert Reich, who served as labor secretary under President Clinton, was speaking to the House Steering and Policy Committee Jan. 7 about funding infrastructure projects across the nation.

"It seems to me that infrastructure spending is a very important and good way of stimulating the economy. The challenge will be to do it quickly, to find projects that can be done that will have a high social return, that also can be done with the greatest speed possible," Reich said.

"I am concerned, as I'm sure many of you are, that these jobs not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers," he said.




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Wed 04/08/09 08:00 AM
Stupid fox news anyway. Bias and judgmental...half truths and vulgar enuendos.

Blacks are also feeling left out of the stimulus. You can't please every body.

As a woman I am feeling a little left out myself! I am not a bridge builder or street worker... No shovels here.

What!!??