Topic: “Mandatory Volunteerism”… Is this a repeat of history?
willing2's photo
Mon 03/30/09 07:36 PM
In the guidelines, near the bottom of the plan, it specifically states Service is Mandatory. It can't be explained away, too many people have copied it.
Got a question.
The final bill lists generalizations.
In the outline covers specifics on what type of kids will fit into the Corporations guidelines.
Lets talk about those kids, the misfits, juvenile delinquents, developmentally disabled, kids too old to be adopted, homeless kids.
In my imagination, I cannot see them applying to become wards of the Corporation.
How, aside from rounding them up and putting them into Corporate Servitude, do you believe they could be enticed to Voluntarily apply for Servitude?

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 03/30/09 07:40 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Mon 03/30/09 07:53 PM
huh

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Mon 03/30/09 07:48 PM
damn kids

willing2's photo
Mon 03/30/09 07:49 PM


In the guidelines, near the bottom of the plan, it specifically states Service is Mandatory. It can't be explained away, too many people have copied it.
Got a question.
The final bill lists generalizations.
In the outline covers specifics on what type of kids will fit into the Corporations guidelines.
Lets talk about those kids, the misfits, juvenile delinquents, developmentally disabled, kids too old to be adopted, homeless kids.
In my imagination, I cannot see them applying to become wards of the Corporation.
How, aside from rounding them up and putting them into Corporate Servitude, do you believe they could be enticed to Voluntarily apply for Servitude?

slapheadWinx has explained this a dozen timesfrustratedIts a program like the JobCorphappy

Excuse me??
I read both the outline and the final plan, for myself.
I don't prescribe to her interpretation. I have a mind of my own.
Please, use your limited attempt at whit and insults for others. I have no problem reporting harassment and insults.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 03/30/09 07:52 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Mon 03/30/09 07:53 PM
huh

Winx's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:01 PM

In the guidelines, near the bottom of the plan, it specifically states Service is Mandatory. It can't be explained away, too many people have copied it.
Got a question.
The final bill lists generalizations.
In the outline covers specifics on what type of kids will fit into the Corporations guidelines.
Lets talk about those kids, the misfits, juvenile delinquents, developmentally disabled, kids too old to be adopted, homeless kids.
In my imagination, I cannot see them applying to become wards of the Corporation.
How, aside from rounding them up and putting them into Corporate Servitude, do you believe they could be enticed to Voluntarily apply for Servitude?



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388

There is nothing in here that says that it is mandatory. People have to apply to it. 180 days after the bill is finalized, they are going to campaign (that means commercials, etc.) to encourage people of all ages to volunteer full/part-time, long/short-term.

Yes, talk about the kids. You are talking about the definition that they gave for disadvantaged youth. They also have the definition of baby boomer - 1946-1964. They have the definition of veterans too. They have so many definitions that it gets boring.

All ages can sign up for this. They have a program for people over 55 and the Vet Program too. They have quite a few programs.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:05 PM


In the guidelines, near the bottom of the plan, it specifically states Service is Mandatory. It can't be explained away, too many people have copied it.
Got a question.
The final bill lists generalizations.
In the outline covers specifics on what type of kids will fit into the Corporations guidelines.
Lets talk about those kids, the misfits, juvenile delinquents, developmentally disabled, kids too old to be adopted, homeless kids.
In my imagination, I cannot see them applying to become wards of the Corporation.
How, aside from rounding them up and putting them into Corporate Servitude, do you believe they could be enticed to Voluntarily apply for Servitude?



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388

There is nothing in here that says that it is mandatory. People have to apply to it. 180 days after the bill is finalized, they are going to campaign (that means commercials, etc.) to encourage people of all ages to volunteer full/part-time, long/short-term.

Yes, talk about the kids. You are talking about the definition that they gave for disadvantaged youth. They also have the definition of baby boomer - 1946-1964. They have the definition of veterans too. They have so many definitions that it gets boring.

All ages can sign up for this. They have a program for people over 55 and the Vet Program too. They have quite a few programs.
flowerforyou Thank you for explaining that again Winxie.flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:08 PM



In the guidelines, near the bottom of the plan, it specifically states Service is Mandatory. It can't be explained away, too many people have copied it.
Got a question.
The final bill lists generalizations.
In the outline covers specifics on what type of kids will fit into the Corporations guidelines.
Lets talk about those kids, the misfits, juvenile delinquents, developmentally disabled, kids too old to be adopted, homeless kids.
In my imagination, I cannot see them applying to become wards of the Corporation.
How, aside from rounding them up and putting them into Corporate Servitude, do you believe they could be enticed to Voluntarily apply for Servitude?



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388

There is nothing in here that says that it is mandatory. People have to apply to it. 180 days after the bill is finalized, they are going to campaign (that means commercials, etc.) to encourage people of all ages to volunteer full/part-time, long/short-term.

Yes, talk about the kids. You are talking about the definition that they gave for disadvantaged youth. They also have the definition of baby boomer - 1946-1964. They have the definition of veterans too. They have so many definitions that it gets boring.

All ages can sign up for this. They have a program for people over 55 and the Vet Program too. They have quite a few programs.
flowerforyou Thank you for explaining that again Winxie.flowerforyou


You're welcome. flowerforyou That's the link to the bill that passed. It's more current then the previous link.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:11 PM




In the guidelines, near the bottom of the plan, it specifically states Service is Mandatory. It can't be explained away, too many people have copied it.
Got a question.
The final bill lists generalizations.
In the outline covers specifics on what type of kids will fit into the Corporations guidelines.
Lets talk about those kids, the misfits, juvenile delinquents, developmentally disabled, kids too old to be adopted, homeless kids.
In my imagination, I cannot see them applying to become wards of the Corporation.
How, aside from rounding them up and putting them into Corporate Servitude, do you believe they could be enticed to Voluntarily apply for Servitude?



http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1388

There is nothing in here that says that it is mandatory. People have to apply to it. 180 days after the bill is finalized, they are going to campaign (that means commercials, etc.) to encourage people of all ages to volunteer full/part-time, long/short-term.

Yes, talk about the kids. You are talking about the definition that they gave for disadvantaged youth. They also have the definition of baby boomer - 1946-1964. They have the definition of veterans too. They have so many definitions that it gets boring.

All ages can sign up for this. They have a program for people over 55 and the Vet Program too. They have quite a few programs.
flowerforyou Thank you for explaining that again Winxie.flowerforyou


You're welcome. flowerforyou That's the link to the bill that passed. It's more current then the previous link.
bigsmile You always got the facts Winxbigsmile

Winx's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:14 PM
I like unbiased facts.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:16 PM

I like unbiased facts.


flowerforyou I know you do sweetheartflowerforyou That is why you are so awesome:thumbsup:

Winx's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:21 PM
Thank you.blushing flowers smooched

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:21 PM

Thank you.blushing flowers smooched


brb

willing2's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:22 PM
Again, referring to page 285.
The effect on the Nation, on those who serve,
and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

Key words, expected to perform and required to.
The final bill was passed in accordance to the recommendations set forth in the guidelines.

Volunteering is a Service that's not monetarily compensated.

Winx's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:24 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 03/30/09 08:33 PM
Oops.

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Mon 03/30/09 08:24 PM
I can't wait to see what programs he has for baby boomers in my area. Might just join one myself. Voluntarily of course.. flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:38 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 03/30/09 08:53 PM

Again, referring to page 285.
The effect on the Nation, on those who serve,
and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

Key words, expected to perform and required to.
The final bill was passed in accordance to the recommendations set forth in the guidelines.

Volunteering is a Service that's not monetarily compensated.


I found it. It's where they talk about having an advisory panel of Congress to see how it benefits society, personal benefits, satisfaction. They will discuss if existing databases are effective. They will discuss whether or not a workable fair service required volunteering could be developed. They will discuss what constraints non-profit organizations have. And more.... They are the topics that Congress will talk about.

The rate of pay, I believe, is referring to the Commission and not the volunteers. The volunteers get compensated with money, health care (if they're uninsured) and secondary education.

I couldn't find anything about it being mandatory on the final bill.




MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:41 PM


Again, referring to page 285.
The effect on the Nation, on those who serve,
and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

Key words, expected to perform and required to.
The final bill was passed in accordance to the recommendations set forth in the guidelines.

Volunteering is a Service that's not monetarily compensated.


I found it. It's where they talk about have an advisory panel of Congress to see how it benefits society, personal benefits, satisfaction. They will discuss if existing databases are effective. They will discuss whether or not a workable fair service required volunteering could be developed. They will discuss what constraints non-profit organizations have. And more.... They are the topics that Congress will talk about.

The rate of pay, I believe, is referring to the Commission and not the volunteers. The volunteers get compensated with money, health care (if their uninsured) and secondary education.

I couldn't find it on the final bill.




:banana: :banana: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WINX:banana: :banana:

Winx's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:50 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 03/30/09 08:57 PM

I can't wait to see what programs he has for baby boomers in my area. Might just join one myself. Voluntarily of course.. flowerforyou


It's called the Silver Scholarship. Volunteer for not less than 500 hours of service and receive a $1,000 education award. There more info. on the link.

Winx's photo
Mon 03/30/09 08:51 PM


Thank you.blushing flowers smooched


brb


Ouch.laugh