Topic: “Mandatory Volunteerism”… Is this a repeat of history?
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Mon 03/30/09 10:37 AM
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Mon 03/30/09 01:34 PM

Well, as I see it, as well as others, in the description, it will be mandatory service.
I see them rounding up homeless kids, kids who are getting too old for the foster care system, juvenile delinquents, the developmentally disabled kids, economically disadvantaged, drop outs along with whoever else the Corporation deems a burden.
I see them training them and then placing them wherever the corporation deems fit. I see them providing housing, a small allowance and health care.
It might be a good thing to keep them off the streets and having the Corporation be their guardian.
There's your win.

We'll see if it's just as simple as volunteering.

More then likely it will be YOUR kids... Forced to participate by peer pressure and censure from teachers...

Like I posted before Americas version of Hitler Youth...

Our politicians are either short-sighted or this is delibrate and the plan is for sometime down the road to have control at all levels (financial, military, police, and of course in the generations that will take over)

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Mon 03/30/09 01:38 PM
Did you read the bill, Adventure?

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Mon 03/30/09 01:46 PM

Did you read the bill, Adventure?

It has become quite appearent to me that our current congress has no problem whatsoever CHANGEING things after the fact.

The bill gives them just enough room to manuever (politically) when the small lumps of smelly stuff hit the fan.

Volunteering is volunteering...

Mandatory is not.

Peer or Authority pressure is NOT volunteering.

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Mon 03/30/09 01:56 PM


Did you read the bill, Adventure?

It has become quite appearent to me that our current congress has no problem whatsoever CHANGEING things after the fact.

The bill gives them just enough room to manuever (politically) when the small lumps of smelly stuff hit the fan.

Volunteering is volunteering...

Mandatory is not.

Peer or Authority pressure is NOT volunteering.


Adventure,

If you read the bill, you would see that it is not mandatory.


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Mon 03/30/09 02:03 PM



Did you read the bill, Adventure?

It has become quite appearent to me that our current congress has no problem whatsoever CHANGEING things after the fact.

The bill gives them just enough room to manuever (politically) when the small lumps of smelly stuff hit the fan.

Volunteering is volunteering...

Mandatory is not.

Peer or Authority pressure is NOT volunteering.


Adventure,

If you read the bill, you would see that it is not mandatory.



Neither were the Hitler Youth when they were first started.:tongue:

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Mon 03/30/09 02:21 PM
happy What is it with all the apocalyptic paranoia from the right here lately?whatGood grief.laughIts like a TVshow or a video game or something.:tongue:

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Mon 03/30/09 05:11 PM

Driven,

The Civilian Conservation Corps was one of the most successful New Deal programs of the Great Depression. It existed for fewer than 10 years, but left a legacy of strong, handsome roads, bridges, and buildings throughout the United States. Between 1933 and 1941, more than 3,000,000 men served in the CCC.

The effects of service in the CCC were felt for years, even decades, afterwards. Following the depression, when the job market picked up, businessmen indicated a preference for hiring a man who had been in the CCC, and the reason was simple. Employers believed that anyone who had been in the CCC would know what a full day's work meant, and how to carry out orders in a disciplined way.

Today, many of the remaining physical features the CCC built have been placed on the National Register of Historic Places.

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1586.html




I'm cool with volunteering. Don't misunderstand me. Community involvement is key.

What i'm not cool with is forcing, or pressuring this volunteer work.

I am not insuiating that that is the purpose of this bill in any way.flowerforyou

We will see what will become of it.

It has potential for both good and bad.

I have trust issues still when it comes to the U.S. gov. So i am watchful that's all. I haven't read the bill yet. I will soon though.

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Mon 03/30/09 05:20 PM

happy What is it with all the apocalyptic paranoia from the right here lately?whatGood grief.laughIts like a TVshow or a video game or something.:tongue:


haha it's the same coming from the left too.

like I say 90% of Americans are pretty much middle of the road. a little liberal here and a little conservative there

but the other 10% of left/right crazies make so much noise that you think there are more of em than there really are (ESPECIALLY in these threads)

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Mon 03/30/09 05:23 PM

like I say 90% of Americans are pretty much middle of the road. a little liberal here and a little conservative there



And I'd say 90% of this website is conspiracy nuts. All tuned to AM radio after midnight.


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Mon 03/30/09 05:25 PM


like I say 90% of Americans are pretty much middle of the road. a little liberal here and a little conservative there



And I'd say 90% of this website is conspiracy nuts. All tuned to AM radio after midnight.




DUDE!!!

don't you know AM radio cause hair loss. its because of the amplitude modulated envelope

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Mon 03/30/09 05:27 PM



like I say 90% of Americans are pretty much middle of the road. a little liberal here and a little conservative there



And I'd say 90% of this website is conspiracy nuts. All tuned to AM radio after midnight.




DUDE!!!

don't you know AM radio cause hair loss. its because of the amplitude modulated envelope


You are a riot Quiet!
(Wasn't that a band?)

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Mon 03/30/09 05:41 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Mon 03/30/09 06:08 PM
:thumbsup: Good point:thumbsup:

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Mon 03/30/09 05:44 PM



happy What is it with all the apocalyptic paranoia from the right here lately?whatGood grief.laughIts like a TVshow or a video game or something.:tongue:


haha it's the same coming from the left too.

like I say 90% of Americans are pretty much middle of the road. a little liberal here and a little conservative there

but the other 10% of left/right crazies make so much noise that you think there are more of em than there really are (ESPECIALLY in these threads)
flowerforyou Im sure there are some, but Im not hearing that many left wingers talking about antichrist and end of the world stuff.:smile: I mean, have you actually looked at any right wing sites lately?laugh They are jam packed full of arm chair-Nostradamus'slaugh


hahaha noooooooooo I have never looked at a single politico type site. too many nut cases

but I do read STRATFOR. they sell geopolitical intelligence summaries for businesses going into different places in the world. they sell the intelligence for zillions of dollars but you can get good short summaries on their website

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Mon 03/30/09 05:50 PM
"Armchair Nostrdamuses". That is a great description.

May I use that w/o footnoting, Mirror?

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Mon 03/30/09 05:52 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Mon 03/30/09 06:09 PM
bigsmile Surebigsmile

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Mon 03/30/09 05:56 PM
and you assume they are all right wingers? if I am correct...most don't subscribe to a particular party.

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Mon 03/30/09 06:03 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Mon 03/30/09 06:07 PM
bigsmile You have a pointflowerforyou

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Mon 03/30/09 06:05 PM

and you assume they are all right wingers? if I am correct...most don't subscribe to a particular party.



It gets old, Conspiracy nuts, Conspiracy theorists, tinfoil hats.

How about instead of spending all the effort typing out a 2 sentence insult, you prove it?

I'm open to being proven wrong. What I'm not open to is those with tunnel vision and closed minds carte blanche dismissing what a huge part of this population is worried about.

That being said, I have to see strong evidence before I come with something, what does the "Conspiracy Theory" insult, because thats what it's become, solve?

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Mon 03/30/09 06:06 PM


and you assume they are all right wingers? if I am correct...most don't subscribe to a particular party.
flowerforyou I know that a lot of people on right wing sites like to call themselves "Independent".flowerforyouAnd I got ocean front property in Arizona.laughI didn't just fall off the turnip truck:tongue:


there are left wingers like this too. you make alot of generalized statements about the right wing like you know these things to be facts. it would be like me saying the left wingers have their heads buried in the sand. but of course that is a general statement and therefore not true either