Topic: if you've never been political, now is the time
yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/29/09 09:28 AM
ok...i understand now. yes quiet already takes credit for that one or I would have posted it so everyone can look at it for themselves...ty for reposting it though

FreeToB's photo
Sun 03/29/09 09:47 AM
I read the entire bill and do not see anything in it that refers to requiring food producers to apply pesticides, herbicides or otherwise change thier processes except to require stricter compliance and REPORTING of existing food safety laws and safety PLANS.

This will definately make it harder to be in compliance for all farmers but theres nothing that I see in it that makes organic farming illegal now or in the future.

You can read the bill here : http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-875

Maybe I missed something. After all, I'm not a lawyer.

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/29/09 10:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thE54K3PaTY

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/29/09 10:13 AM
read the actual bill.

anyone that sells the products to resturants or customers, needs some form of regulation for the consumers to avoid illnesses.

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/29/09 10:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeWVkTU1s1E

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/29/09 10:51 AM
http://forums.organicgardening.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2341078301/m/6241081306

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/29/09 10:54 AM
frustrated

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:01 AM
http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?p=907311#post907311



a few of the forum quotes

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Has not our recent food safety issues been manifested in foreign imports? Tell me again how our Fed gov't will be a better farmer than the individual? The gov't F's up everything they touch. Buying local produce is sooo much better than the alternative

Anything that adds another layer of government oversight and control is unneeded. We already have Monsanto GMO seeds and chemical soaked soils. We irradiate our food. The corporate farm lobby (#2 biggest lobby behind AARP) doesn't need anymore help. The independent farmers are being squeezed hard enough. Don't we already have and FDA,USDA and whoever else gets in on the action?

I'm certainly no expert in this field. In my limited knowledge, the bill doesn't sound too good to me. Hopefully, Samson or Apex, who are much closer to the industry will impart some valuable knowledge here. I just don't see the benefits outweighing the costs
in this one...or even coming close.







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Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:04 AM

frustrated







flowers i am sorry you feel that way my Sister flowers


happy I am not an Authority on the subject but i know people who are happy


flowerforyou I wish you could sit & have a nice raw food lunch flowerforyou


drinker with them & some organic lemonade and have a long chat drinker





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yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:05 AM
READ THE ACTUAL BILL. Don't forget all the recalls lately. such as peanuts having Salmonella....

relying on an email or one sided videos or links doesn't help. research all sides and he actual bill itself.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:09 AM
I personally don't eat raw foods. My aunt however is a vegan and very organic. I would love to sit down and chat on this subject with you, your daughter and who they work with. the bill doesn't state what the email claims. alot of the bill IS vague but it is for food safety. so if the government DOES infringe on certain rights...call them on it...fight it in court. but i don't see where this bill states what the email says.

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:28 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Sun 03/29/09 11:33 AM


smokin This Guy has it going on.drinker drinker drinker ..He knows what is happening smokin


flowerforyou Please Please Everyone drinker Open Your Eyes Your Ears drinker Check this out flowerforyou



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yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:33 AM
i have yet to see anything different than what I have posted. all I see is hysteria. contact your congressman/woman and ask them to make the bill more specific before being passed. tell them your concern. but again....i don't see where the ACTUAL bill states what the email does

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:35 AM
drinker thank you flowerforyou we are doing all we can ...drinker


flowerforyou please listen to the video drinker & others like it flowerforyou


drinker and read closely between the lines in the Bill drinker

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:37 AM
Edited by Rapunzel on Sun 03/29/09 11:46 AM

please hear this and others like it drinker


smokin and call your states representatives smokin




drinker here is the main number in Washington DC 202- 224 -3121 drinker



flowerforyou Pass this video around ... flowerforyou





:cry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQvGBljwnSE&NR=1 :cry:


















yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:38 AM
I checked out your links and found nothing but hysteria and panic. i hav also read the bill....have you read it yet? not to mention....i was already in on the debate on this before.

all I see is that the bill maybe too vague in areas which is what is causing the hysteria. but i will NOT just take the word of an email. i do my own reseach and come to my own conclusions

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:44 AM
I have no problem with people enjoying organic food...but if it is sold to the public then YES....there needs to be procautions over the food. insects, rodents and such can make the food unsafe and make people very sick.

Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:47 AM

drinker Everyone ~ please hear this and others like it drinker



smokin and call your states representatives smokin




drinker here is the main number in Washington DC 202- 224 -3121 drinker



flowerforyou Pass this video around ... flowerforyou





:cry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQvGBljwnSE&NR=1 :cry:


















Rapunzel's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:49 AM


MONSANTO: KILLING US ALL-slowly but surely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc5DTpo79nw&feature=related

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 03/29/09 11:50 AM
HAVE YOU READ THE BILL???? or are you just spreading what others interpret the bill to say because they are readingbetween the lines and forming this conclusion? have you checked in to ALL sides of this??? I suggest you read the bill...research all sides....then if you have questions or concerns, contact your congress man/woman.