ty for that link. all I ask is for people to reserch before making up their minds based on an email

atlantis....the article you posted was about executing a search warrant for operating as a business without a license. handled wrong...yes.

Food safety needs to be supervised. Remember the spinach and the peanut butter?

Don't forget the tomatoes and lettuce situation in the past couple of years.

I am gonna look into this, but I tell you, with Monsanto and DuPont buying up all the heirloom seed companies and (for christs sake) putting patents on their frankenfoods, does something like this really seem out of character with the fascism we live under these days?

I am not one to see fascism as taking over the world but since I love gardens I though this interesting about the Monsanto stuff.

http://livingliberally.org/eating/blog/Fedco-Seeds-David-Monsantos-Goliath

I prefer to accept Mussolini's ideals, is he not the model, of Fascism, which is: "The foundation of Fascism is the conception of the State, its character, its duty, and its aim. Fascism conceives of the State as an absolute, in comparison with which all individuals or groups are relative, only to be conceived of in their relation to the State. The conception of the Liberal State is not that of a directing force, guiding the play and development, both material and spiritual, of a collective body, but merely a force limited to the function of recording results: on the other hand, the Fascist State is itself conscious and has itself a will and a personality -- thus it may be called the "ethic" State....

...The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone....

...For Fascism, the growth of empire, that is to say the expansion of the nation, is an essential manifestation of vitality, and its opposite a sign of decadence. Peoples which are rising, or rising again after a period of decadence, are always imperialist; and renunciation is a sign of decay and of death. Fascism is the doctrine best adapted to represent the tendencies and the aspirations of a people, like the people of Italy, who are rising again after many centuries of abasement and foreign servitude. But empire demands discipline, the coordination of all forces and a deeply felt sense of duty and sacrifice: this fact explains many aspects of the practical working of the regime, the character of many forces in the State, and the necessarily severe measures which must be taken against those who would oppose this spontaneous and inevitable movement of Italy in the twentieth century, and would oppose it by recalling the outworn ideology of the nineteenth century - repudiated wheresoever there has been the courage to undertake great experiments of social and political transformation; for never before has the nation stood more in need of authority, of direction and order. If every age has its own characteristic doctrine, there are a thousand signs which point to Fascism as the characteristic doctrine of our time. For if a doctrine must be a living thing, this is proved by the fact that Fascism has created a living faith; and that this faith is very powerful in the minds of men is demonstrated by those who have suffered and died for it."

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/mussolini-fascism.html

This all encompassing state (read central government) is what we are dealing with today. This is why I oppose calling Obama a Socialist, he's not, he's just one more PR man for the Corporate Fascist State.

Thats a good article.

Monsanto's World Headquarters are in St. Louis.

Yes I thought so, I like that they are fighting Monsanto. Looked like a few other interesting things there, gonna check it out tomorrow.

When ever you hear of any idiotic law getting passed it is always thought up by stupid liberal democrats.This one is no different.


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Stupid liberals. There you again. Like nobody else has done anything wrong.

Unfortunately, it's not just a chain letter, it's a matter of Congressional record.

Library of Congress
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.875:

The main problem that people are having is with the vagueness of power generated by the bill and this little line, which worries organic farmers:

(c)
"(3) include, with respect to growing, harvesting, sorting, and storage operations, minimum standards related to fertilizer use, nutrients, hygiene, packaging, temperature controls, animal encroachment, and water;"

The minimum standards aren't defined, in fact, very little is defined.

get rid of the government altogether and we could save
$3 Trillion annually!



yep, that's $3 million million - 3,000,000,000,000 bucks. $10,000 for each man woman and child in the US. $40,000/yr for a family of four!




that's how much of our money they are spending.

this type of letter, among others, have been going around before. This is why I suggested to look at the actual bill instead of believing an email.

It's always a good idea to do so.

Rose,

You posted this on another thread:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-875

ok??? all I have said was to look at the bill before taking an email to heart. which is why people have posted the actual link. so people can see the bill and decide for themselves

maybe I'm not understanding your post winx

I just woke up when I posted it.

I see now that Quiet already posted it.