Topic: So, You Say "There is No GOD?"
justinc1431's photo
Thu 03/26/09 12:32 AM
How many Christians do you think have signed up for the armed forces around the world? The bible doesn't say "thou shalt not kill... except when serving gov't orders".

Jess642's photo
Thu 03/26/09 12:42 AM



Eljay wrote:

Actually - you've got your facts wrong. There have been more people killed under the name of "Atheism" than all of the religious wars combined.


That is a pretty funny statement for someone who continually states that "you can't blame the religion for the actions of those who abuse it"

Isn't that exactly what you are doing there?huh

Now let's take a "walk" through History.
The Crusades- Wars fought, by order of the Pope, to get the Holy Land back under Christian rule. Purely, a religious fight, and deaths in the name of "my god".

The Spanish Inquisition- People punished by others taking a literal translation to the bible.

The Witch Trails- Again, People punished by others taking a literal translation to the bible.

So that you don't complain about only Christianity being picked on:
Today's modern Jihad against all non-Muslims: Pretty simple, if you aren't one of them, they want you dead.

Hell, just look in that "good book" of yours. God kills many more than Satan does...


Don't forget the religious persecution of the Muslims by the Christians.



It's easy to see why the Atheist have to go back hundreds of years to find a little dirt on the Christians.The Christians haven't been killing anyone in hundreds of years.You might as well be fair and go back hundreds of years and compare what the Atheist and the other religions used to do in that time frame.

This is debating at its very worst.Ignoring hundreds of years of peace and bringing up a small event that not only the Christians were participating in but so where the Aethiest.A real person could debate present events.

You might want to start a topic on all the violence and hate that Christianity has put a end to.The Christians have brought more peace to this world than any Atheist ever did or ever will and thats the truth!



Pig's arse!

There are more christian soldiers fighting islamic fundamentalists than ever before!

Everytime you open your gob, you look sillier and sillier.... not a good look at all.:wink:

Thomas3474's photo
Thu 03/26/09 01:05 AM




Eljay wrote:

Actually - you've got your facts wrong. There have been more people killed under the name of "Atheism" than all of the religious wars combined.


That is a pretty funny statement for someone who continually states that "you can't blame the religion for the actions of those who abuse it"

Isn't that exactly what you are doing there?huh

Now let's take a "walk" through History.
The Crusades- Wars fought, by order of the Pope, to get the Holy Land back under Christian rule. Purely, a religious fight, and deaths in the name of "my god".

The Spanish Inquisition- People punished by others taking a literal translation to the bible.

The Witch Trails- Again, People punished by others taking a literal translation to the bible.

So that you don't complain about only Christianity being picked on:
Today's modern Jihad against all non-Muslims: Pretty simple, if you aren't one of them, they want you dead.

Hell, just look in that "good book" of yours. God kills many more than Satan does...


Don't forget the religious persecution of the Muslims by the Christians.



It's easy to see why the Atheist have to go back hundreds of years to find a little dirt on the Christians.The Christians haven't been killing anyone in hundreds of years.You might as well be fair and go back hundreds of years and compare what the Atheist and the other religions used to do in that time frame.

This is debating at its very worst.Ignoring hundreds of years of peace and bringing up a small event that not only the Christians were participating in but so where the Aethiest.A real person could debate present events.

You might want to start a topic on all the violence and hate that Christianity has put a end to.The Christians have brought more peace to this world than any Atheist ever did or ever will and thats the truth!



Pig's arse!

There are more christian soldiers fighting islamic fundamentalists than ever before!

Everytime you open your gob, you look sillier and sillier.... not a good look at all.:wink:


Your response is so dumb it's hardly worth responding to.The soldiers are not fighting this war in the name of God.They are not killing for Jesus.I don't remember anyone in our government saying "we are going to war to fight for Jesus and the bible".

You also fail to realize that we are fighting good against evil and that is always justified in Gods eyes.

Thomas3474's photo
Thu 03/26/09 01:12 AM

How many Christians do you think have signed up for the armed forces around the world? The bible doesn't say "thou shalt not kill... except when serving gov't orders".


A Christian isn't following one of the commandments?Is this news?When Jesus comes back there is going to be alot of killing and he is going to be front and center of the show.He is going to be using fire and brimstone,plagues,wars,and everything under the sun to the non believers.Read Revelations and you tell me if killing evil people seems justified in Gods eyes.


Jess642's photo
Thu 03/26/09 02:28 AM



A Christian isn't following one of the commandments?Is this news?When Jesus comes back there is going to be alot of killing and he is going to be front and center of the show.He is going to be using fire and brimstone,plagues,wars,and everything under the sun to the non believers.Read Revelations and you tell me if killing evil people seems justified in Gods eyes.




No he isn't (The mythical Jesus)...that's a fantasy based on a sense of powerless in your own life.

as to dumb...yep.

IQ of over 140 makes me dumb...there's no doubt about that!bigsmile

MahanMahan's photo
Thu 03/26/09 04:57 AM
Dear Lord God,

Please I beg of you to appear now before us sinners and admit to your non-existance... so that we can live happy lives in peace and harmony void of any and all religious restrictions and milleniums old and ancient rituals and backassward thinking and idologies...

Amen!

"I hereby proclaim God... DEAD!" -Mahan Mahan

MahanMahan's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:09 AM
Edited by MahanMahan on Thu 03/26/09 05:14 AM
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MahanMahan's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:11 AM
Supposin' I was shoppin' around for a God to believe in... Which one should I pick...?

Allah, the Muslim God?
Christian God (Virgin Mary's baby daddy?)
Jewish God?
The Wiccan Goddess?
Zulu God?

Hmmm... all the above gods (and there are dozens more that I didn't mention) have millions of followers who have faith in their god and know 100% that theirs is the true god.

I'm confused... It'd be awesome if there were to be held a battle of the Gods, a winner takes all sorta thing... you know?

Yeah, I'll just wait till the Gods figure it out, then I'll follow the last remaining true god...

justinc1431's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:25 AM


How many Christians do you think have signed up for the armed forces around the world? The bible doesn't say "thou shalt not kill... except when serving gov't orders".


A Christian isn't following one of the commandments?Is this news?When Jesus comes back there is going to be alot of killing and he is going to be front and center of the show.He is going to be using fire and brimstone,plagues,wars,and everything under the sun to the non believers.Read Revelations and you tell me if killing evil people seems justified in Gods eyes.




So it's not evil to take orders from another "Christian", who happens to be the leader of our country, to go to war against another nation? Because to them they probably believe we are the evil ones. Who gets to decide who's right? Furthermore do you believe that Jesus will allow those who aren't believers but have led a good honest life to be killed just because they didn't believe? That in itself seems pretty evil.

MahanMahan's photo
Thu 03/26/09 05:53 AM
Oh God Allah Buddha Krishna,

They don't listen... They're still arguing. I'm in need of some divine intervention... Just give us a sign that you don't exist so that we may stop hating and killing in your name...

Amen!


MahanMahan's photo
Thu 03/26/09 06:02 AM
Holy Moley... I received the sign... it's true I tell ya... I had this gut feeling all night long... right in my intestines, it came as a gas, it passed, but it was a sign non-the-less.

See, I spoke the truth and no one believed me...

Don't make me hafta start singing John Lennon's song Imagine... oh! too late, here we go...

Inkracer's photo
Thu 03/26/09 07:04 AM

It's easy to see why the Atheist have to go back hundreds of years to find a little dirt on the Christians.The Christians haven't been killing anyone in hundreds of years.You might as well be fair and go back hundreds of years and compare what the Atheist and the other religions used to do in that time frame.


Actually, we don't. There are Christians out there murdering doctors who perform abortions. But each time we bring those instances up, we get told that those people "aren't real christians."
And, whether you like it or not, the blood of those cases brought up, from hundreds of years ago, is still on your hands.

Inkracer's photo
Thu 03/26/09 07:58 AM

Atheist are the most blood thirsty murders on earth.Here is a few examples.

Bosnia-Herzegovina: 1992-1995 - 200,000 Deaths


From what I've read, from un-biased sites, Religion did play a role in this, and it wasn't "lack of". Since the Serbs(Orthodox Christians) were killing Muslims...

Rwanda: 1994 - 800,000 Deaths


Simple research shows this was politically charged, and had little to do with religion, including "lack of"

Pol Pot in Cambodia: 1975-1979 - 2,000,000 Deaths
Nazi Holocaust: 1938-1945 - 6,000,000 Deaths


These two guys are grouped together, because ideologically, they are the same. Pol Pot made references to heaven/destiny wanting him to lead Cambodia, and Hitler has made a number of quotes, including :" I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator."
But, either way, both these (even while Hitler's was motivated by a hatred of Jews.) were attempts at building a perfect utopia.

Rape of Nanking: 1937-1938 - 300,000 Deaths

The main religious beliefs of Japan are Shinto and Buddhism, and a mix of the two. So, again, not quite the Atheists your trying to claim they were.

Stalin's Forced Famine: 1932-1933 - 7,000,000 Deaths

The reasons behind this were purely political. The Ukraine wanted Independence, Stalin didn't want to grant it to them.

Armenians in Turkey: 1915-1918 - 1,500,000 Deaths

This is just another example of Muslims ridding the world of "infidels"...

MahanMahan's photo
Thu 03/26/09 08:18 AM
10% of U.S. population = atheist
0.5% of U.S. prison population = atheist

Atheists are blood thirsty murderers and criminals? yeah, ok...

Peccy's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:30 AM
Edited by Peccy on Thu 03/26/09 10:34 AM


How many Christians do you think have signed up for the armed forces around the world? The bible doesn't say "thou shalt not kill... except when serving gov't orders".


A Christian isn't following one of the commandments?Is this news?When Jesus comes back there is going to be alot of killing and he is going to be front and center of the show.He is going to be using fire and brimstone,plagues,wars,and everything under the sun to the non believers.Read Revelations and you tell me if killing evil people seems justified in Gods eyes.


oh my, you are brainwashed! Why do you believe that? Because it's what you read and were taught? And don't even say because it's true, you only believe it because of what some sick fairy tale in a totally illogical book told you so. There is no real (yes I know you have trouble distinguishing fact from fiction) proof that it will EVER happen.

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Thu 03/26/09 10:41 AM





Pig's arse!

There are more christian soldiers fighting islamic fundamentalists than ever before!

Everytime you open your gob, you look sillier and sillier.... not a good look at all.:wink:


I love it when a hot woman talks dirty

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 03/26/09 10:54 AM

Atheist are the most blood thirsty murders on earth.Here is a few examples.

Bosnia-Herzegovina: 1992-1995 - 200,000 Deaths

Rwanda: 1994 - 800,000 Deaths
Pol Pot in Cambodia: 1975-1979 - 2,000,000 Deaths

Nazi Holocaust: 1938-1945 - 6,000,000 Deaths

Rape of Nanking: 1937-1938 - 300,000 Deaths

Stalin's Forced Famine: 1932-1933 - 7,000,000 Deaths

Armenians in Turkey: 1915-1918 - 1,500,000 Deaths


Clearly you have no clue what you're talking about.

The Nazi Holocaust was indeed supported by Christian antisemitism. Hitler himself appealed to Jesus Christ Almighty in his public speeches to the masses. That's been recorded in history.

The fact that you listed this event on a list of things that are supposed to be driven by atheism just shows that your information is not the least bit credible.

Clearly there are no excuses for the religion. It's guilty as charged.

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 03/26/09 11:03 AM

A Christian isn't following one of the commandments?Is this news?When Jesus comes back there is going to be alot of killing and he is going to be front and center of the show.He is going to be using fire and brimstone,plagues,wars,and everything under the sun to the non believers.Read Revelations and you tell me if killing evil people seems justified in Gods eyes.


If I am to believe this then I must believe that Jesus is even worse than Hitler.

Hitler only hated the Jews. Clearly Jesus hates anyone who doesn't worship his EGO!

Christianity is truly a religion that is based on God's EGO.

It's all about an egotistical God who wants to be the king of the mountain and will murder anyone who refuses to recognize that he's the head honcho.

Christianity is truly all about a God who has an EGO that it totally beyond anything a human could even begin to dream up.

The God who HATES everyone who won't worship his EGO.

It's truly disgusting.

Christianity is just the opposite of Buddhism. Buddhism teaches that the EGO is illusion. Christianity teachings that the EGO is GOD!

It's truly a sad religion.

A very sad religion indeed. :cry:

The God who hates all who refuse to worship his ego. noway

Peccy's photo
Thu 03/26/09 12:29 PM


A Christian isn't following one of the commandments?Is this news?When Jesus comes back there is going to be alot of killing and he is going to be front and center of the show.He is going to be using fire and brimstone,plagues,wars,and everything under the sun to the non believers.Read Revelations and you tell me if killing evil people seems justified in Gods eyes.


If I am to believe this then I must believe that Jesus is even worse than Hitler.

Hitler only hated the Jews. Clearly Jesus hates anyone who doesn't worship his EGO!

Christianity is truly a religion that is based on God's EGO.

It's all about an egotistical God who wants to be the king of the mountain and will murder anyone who refuses to recognize that he's the head honcho.

Christianity is truly all about a God who has an EGO that it totally beyond anything a human could even begin to dream up.

The God who HATES everyone who won't worship his EGO.

It's truly disgusting.

Christianity is just the opposite of Buddhism. Buddhism teaches that the EGO is illusion. Christianity teachings that the EGO is GOD!

It's truly a sad religion.

A very sad religion indeed. :cry:

The God who hates all who refuse to worship his ego. noway
Well said Abra.........it got awfully quiet.

splendidlife's photo
Thu 03/26/09 02:47 PM


A Christian isn't following one of the commandments?Is this news?When Jesus comes back there is going to be alot of killing and he is going to be front and center of the show.He is going to be using fire and brimstone,plagues,wars,and everything under the sun to the non believers.Read Revelations and you tell me if killing evil people seems justified in Gods eyes.


If I am to believe this then I must believe that Jesus is even worse than Hitler.

Hitler only hated the Jews. Clearly Jesus hates anyone who doesn't worship his EGO!

Christianity is truly a religion that is based on God's EGO.

It's all about an egotistical God who wants to be the king of the mountain and will murder anyone who refuses to recognize that he's the head honcho.

Christianity is truly all about a God who has an EGO that it totally beyond anything a human could even begin to dream up.

The God who HATES everyone who won't worship his EGO.

It's truly disgusting.

Christianity is just the opposite of Buddhism. Buddhism teaches that the EGO is illusion. Christianity teachings that the EGO is GOD!

It's truly a sad religion.

A very sad religion indeed. :cry:

The God who hates all who refuse to worship his ego. noway


I find suspicious any religion that worships a "god" who exhibits the all-too human characteristics of Ego and Pride. We lowly humans are supposed to somehow rise above?

Why can't some of the most intelligent people see this?

It's the Emperor’s New Clothes, I s'pose.