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OK, if it was me in power, I'd know for sure who my allies were with the signed contract. By signing that form , makes you legally bound to act when called upon.
I would have to suppose, the fence-straddlers and those who openly opposed me, were against me and are a liability to be dealt with. Edited by willing2 on Mon 03/23/09 07:23 PM __________________________________________________ They will not be called to do anything. I will say it again, sounds a bit paranoid to me. Maybe stop reading so much on the republican hate sites??? Just a suggestion. 
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Edited by
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On the other hand, Obama might just want to know how many and who will not sign loyalty to him. Goes both ways. Just how many do you think will sign? So what, he will assume all those that didn't sign are against him? And just how would he know those against him? They obviously won't be the ones signing? The ones signing it will be the ones wanting to put some effort into his plan. Sorry Willing, that makes no sense. I would have to sign a pledge that gave me the option to NOT support him, why the heck would anyone sign the a pledge to not support him? OK, if it was me in power, I'd know for sure who my allies were with the signed contract. By signing that form , makes you legally bound to act when called upon. I would have to suppose, the fence-straddlers and those who openly opposed me, were against me. Willing, It's not a legal contract. It's about being a volunteer. I think it's about collecting signatures to show support for his plan. And also to email or text people regarding what's going on. He did that before the election too and still is doing that. He's big about using the internet. He used text messages with the young people before the election. It's more of the same. Look reaaallly good at the form. The canvassers are supposed to have the person fill in all the information. There are 2 pages. They are separate for a reason. People think they are only signing up to help with the energy, education, etc. The legal part is what you signed. A legally binding contract has listed at the top, what it is you are agreeing to. You fill in, your name, address, phone number and, if you have one, an email address. At the bottom of all legal contracts, you sign and date it. Signing that form means you belong to Obama. |
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OK, if it was me in power, I'd know for sure who my allies were with the signed contract. By signing that form , makes you legally bound to act when called upon. I would have to suppose, the fence-straddlers and those who openly opposed me, were against me and are a liability to be dealt with. I think your toto is too tight, Willing.. Seriously, there would have to be more questions than that of any magaizine subscription before I would think it was a plot to get the bad guys that didn't sign on. This is an opt in, not an opt out. You sign if you want to volunteer or pledge support for the plan, you can change your mind but who would sign if they weren't serious about letting congress know they want to see his plan work. |
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On the other hand, Obama might just want to know how many and who will not sign loyalty to him. Goes both ways. Just how many do you think will sign? So what, he will assume all those that didn't sign are against him? And just how would he know those against him? They obviously won't be the ones signing? The ones signing it will be the ones wanting to put some effort into his plan. Sorry Willing, that makes no sense. I would have to sign a pledge that gave me the option to NOT support him, why the heck would anyone sign the a pledge to not support him? OK, if it was me in power, I'd know for sure who my allies were with the signed contract. By signing that form , makes you legally bound to act when called upon. I would have to suppose, the fence-straddlers and those who openly opposed me, were against me. Willing, It's not a legal contract. It's about being a volunteer. I think it's about collecting signatures to show support for his plan. And also to email or text people regarding what's going on. He did that before the election too and still is doing that. He's big about using the internet. He used text messages with the young people before the election. It's more of the same. Look reaaallly good at the form. The canvassers are supposed to have the person fill in all the information. There are 2 pages. They are separate for a reason. People think they are only signing up to help with the energy, education, etc. The legal part is what you signed. A legally binding contract has listed at the top, what it is you are agreeing to. You fill in, your name, address, phone number and, if you have one, an email address. At the bottom of all legal contracts, you sign and date it. Signing that form means you belong to Obama. It's not a contract! Like Bo said, we give the same info out for magazine subscriptions. Shoot, I just did that tonight when I got my child a new library card. Yep, I signed that too. That doesn't mean that I belong to the library. |
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OK, if it was me in power, I'd know for sure who my allies were with the signed contract. By signing that form , makes you legally bound to act when called upon. I would have to suppose, the fence-straddlers and those who openly opposed me, were against me and are a liability to be dealt with. I think your toto is too tight, Willing.. Seriously, there would have to be more questions than that of any magaizine subscription before I would think it was a plot to get the bad guys that didn't sign on. This is an opt in, not an opt out. You sign if you want to volunteer or pledge support for the plan, you can change your mind but who would sign if they weren't serious about letting congress know they want to see his plan work. Try opting out. |
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On the other hand, Obama might just want to know how many and who will not sign loyalty to him. Goes both ways. Just how many do you think will sign? So what, he will assume all those that didn't sign are against him? And just how would he know those against him? They obviously won't be the ones signing? The ones signing it will be the ones wanting to put some effort into his plan. Sorry Willing, that makes no sense. I would have to sign a pledge that gave me the option to NOT support him, why the heck would anyone sign the a pledge to not support him? OK, if it was me in power, I'd know for sure who my allies were with the signed contract. By signing that form , makes you legally bound to act when called upon. I would have to suppose, the fence-straddlers and those who openly opposed me, were against me. Willing, It's not a legal contract. It's about being a volunteer. I think it's about collecting signatures to show support for his plan. And also to email or text people regarding what's going on. He did that before the election too and still is doing that. He's big about using the internet. He used text messages with the young people before the election. It's more of the same. Look reaaallly good at the form. The canvassers are supposed to have the person fill in all the information. There are 2 pages. They are separate for a reason. People think they are only signing up to help with the energy, education, etc. The legal part is what you signed. A legally binding contract has listed at the top, what it is you are agreeing to. You fill in, your name, address, phone number and, if you have one, an email address. At the bottom of all legal contracts, you sign and date it. Signing that form means you belong to Obama. It's not a contract! Like Bo said, we give the same info out for magazine subscriptions. Shoot, I just did that tonight when I got my child a new library card. Yep, I signed that too. That doesn't mean that I belong to the library. Just out of curiosity, ask a Lawyer if it's a legally binding contract. |
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people have given their reasons for wanting to pledge and not wanting to pledge. it's our rights to decide yes or no and why
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I'm not pledging. The only reason is because I don't want to go door to door.
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Exactly. This is not a legal contract. It is simply a signature attesting you are a legal voter and not an illegal alien. It testifies that you are over 18. They need this to know that you are you and legal. It can hurt them to find out that someone working for them is not who they say they are.
This paper gives them info that you are not Spot the dog..or mickey mouse. They can make sure you are who you say you are. When you sign (if you are a supporter of the agenda at hand) you become important to the cause. They do not want any f ups. If you do not...then it is soooo simple...DON'T SIGN. Kat |
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people have given their reasons for wanting to pledge and not wanting to pledge. it's our rights to decide yes or no and why Of course it's your right, not sure who's arguing against that. 
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On the other hand, Obama might just want to know how many and who will not sign loyalty to him. Goes both ways. Just how many do you think will sign? So what, he will assume all those that didn't sign are against him? And just how would he know those against him? They obviously won't be the ones signing? The ones signing it will be the ones wanting to put some effort into his plan. Sorry Willing, that makes no sense. I would have to sign a pledge that gave me the option to NOT support him, why the heck would anyone sign the a pledge to not support him? OK, if it was me in power, I'd know for sure who my allies were with the signed contract. By signing that form , makes you legally bound to act when called upon. I would have to suppose, the fence-straddlers and those who openly opposed me, were against me. Willing, It's not a legal contract. It's about being a volunteer. I think it's about collecting signatures to show support for his plan. And also to email or text people regarding what's going on. He did that before the election too and still is doing that. He's big about using the internet. He used text messages with the young people before the election. It's more of the same. Look reaaallly good at the form. The canvassers are supposed to have the person fill in all the information. There are 2 pages. They are separate for a reason. People think they are only signing up to help with the energy, education, etc. The legal part is what you signed. A legally binding contract has listed at the top, what it is you are agreeing to. You fill in, your name, address, phone number and, if you have one, an email address. At the bottom of all legal contracts, you sign and date it. Signing that form means you belong to Obama. This is actually getting entertaining and you believe what you type? |
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people have given their reasons for wanting to pledge and not wanting to pledge. it's our rights to decide yes or no and why Of course it's your right, not sure who's arguing against that. pretty much everyone |
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On the other hand, Obama might just want to know how many and who will not sign loyalty to him. Goes both ways. Just how many do you think will sign? So what, he will assume all those that didn't sign are against him? And just how would he know those against him? They obviously won't be the ones signing? The ones signing it will be the ones wanting to put some effort into his plan. Sorry Willing, that makes no sense. I would have to sign a pledge that gave me the option to NOT support him, why the heck would anyone sign the a pledge to not support him? OK, if it was me in power, I'd know for sure who my allies were with the signed contract. By signing that form , makes you legally bound to act when called upon. I would have to suppose, the fence-straddlers and those who openly opposed me, were against me. Willing, It's not a legal contract. It's about being a volunteer. I think it's about collecting signatures to show support for his plan. And also to email or text people regarding what's going on. He did that before the election too and still is doing that. He's big about using the internet. He used text messages with the young people before the election. It's more of the same. Look reaaallly good at the form. The canvassers are supposed to have the person fill in all the information. There are 2 pages. They are separate for a reason. People think they are only signing up to help with the energy, education, etc. The legal part is what you signed. A legally binding contract has listed at the top, what it is you are agreeing to. You fill in, your name, address, phone number and, if you have one, an email address. At the bottom of all legal contracts, you sign and date it. Signing that form means you belong to Obama. It's not a contract! Like Bo said, we give the same info out for magazine subscriptions. Shoot, I just did that tonight when I got my child a new library card. Yep, I signed that too. That doesn't mean that I belong to the library. Just out of curiosity, ask a Lawyer if it's a legally binding contract. You ask! So you are assuming if someone signs the pledge to volunteer and then has reason why they can't, that Obama is going to take the time to run these people down and force them to volunteer? If that was the case it would be stipulated that if you backed out there would be consequences and any lawyer would tell that that that is absent on the forms. |
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Exactly. This is not a legal contract. It is simply a signature attesting you are a legal voter and not an illegal alien. It testifies that you are over 18. They need this to know that you are you and legal. It can hurt them to find out that someone working for them is not who they say they are. This paper gives them info that you are not Spot the dog..or mickey mouse. They can make sure you are who you say you are. When you sign (if you are a supporter of the agenda at hand) you become important to the cause. They do not want any f ups. If you do not...then it is soooo simple...DON'T SIGN. Kat That sounds right to me. |
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people have given their reasons for wanting to pledge and not wanting to pledge. it's our rights to decide yes or no and why Of course it's your right, not sure who's arguing against that. pretty much everyone Wow, Rose, seriously, I don't see anyone arguing against your right to decide yes or no or why. Really, swear.. Just trying to help show that this is not some conspiracy to take over those involved or those not involved. There is nothing here that he hasn't spoken of on the campaign trail many times. |
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On the other hand, Obama might just want to know how many and who will not sign loyalty to him. Goes both ways. Just how many do you think will sign? So what, he will assume all those that didn't sign are against him? And just how would he know those against him? They obviously won't be the ones signing? The ones signing it will be the ones wanting to put some effort into his plan. Sorry Willing, that makes no sense. I would have to sign a pledge that gave me the option to NOT support him, why the heck would anyone sign the a pledge to not support him? OK, if it was me in power, I'd know for sure who my allies were with the signed contract. By signing that form , makes you legally bound to act when called upon. I would have to suppose, the fence-straddlers and those who openly opposed me, were against me. Willing, It's not a legal contract. It's about being a volunteer. I think it's about collecting signatures to show support for his plan. And also to email or text people regarding what's going on. He did that before the election too and still is doing that. He's big about using the internet. He used text messages with the young people before the election. It's more of the same. Look reaaallly good at the form. The canvassers are supposed to have the person fill in all the information. There are 2 pages. They are separate for a reason. People think they are only signing up to help with the energy, education, etc. The legal part is what you signed. A legally binding contract has listed at the top, what it is you are agreeing to. You fill in, your name, address, phone number and, if you have one, an email address. At the bottom of all legal contracts, you sign and date it. Signing that form means you belong to Obama. It's not a contract! Like Bo said, we give the same info out for magazine subscriptions. Shoot, I just did that tonight when I got my child a new library card. Yep, I signed that too. That doesn't mean that I belong to the library. I believe your libray card is also legally binding. Rock County Woman Jailed For Overdue Library Books Woman Said She Never Got Overdue Notices UPDATED: 9:07 am CST March 3, 2008 [NEWSVINE: Rock County Woman Jailed For Overdue Library Books] [DELICIOUS: Rock County Woman Jailed For Overdue Library Books] [DIGG: Rock County Woman Jailed For Overdue Library Books] [FACEBOOK: Rock County Woman Jailed For Overdue Library Books] [REDDIT: Rock County Woman Jailed For Overdue Library Books] [RSS] [PRINT: Rock County Woman Jailed For Overdue Library Books] [EMAIL: Rock County Woman Jailed For Overdue Library Books] BELOIT, Wis. -- Rock County residents take notice: The library wants books back on time. A Rock County woman spent six days in jail for overdue books, WISC-TV reported. The Beloit Public Library wanted the books back from Keely Givahn. After sending Givahn overdue notices, the library sent her a citation. Beloit Public Library director Dan Zack said when books aren't returned, the library sends three overdue notices. After the third notice, a citation is sent that could include court date. When Givahn was pulled over for a traffic violation, the officer found out about her outstanding warrant and took her to jail, WISC-TV reported. Givahn told authorities that she was in the process of moving and never got the overdue notices. She and her family couldn't afford to pay her fine so she remained in jail for six days. Beloit police Capt. Bill Tyler said he knows this case could sound like an overreaction, but he said a municipal fine is a municipal fine, and failure to pay for any reason can result in an arrest warrant being issued. |
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people have given their reasons for wanting to pledge and not wanting to pledge. it's our rights to decide yes or no and why Of course it's your right, not sure who's arguing against that. pretty much everyone Wow, Rose, seriously, I don't see anyone arguing against your right to decide yes or no or why. Really, swear.. Just trying to help show that this is not some conspiracy to take over those involved or those not involved. There is nothing here that he hasn't spoken of on the campaign trail many times. not MY right...i have made my reasons clear |
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i don't agree with willing and war's reasons...but they are their reasons for not trusting this
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Edited by
Winx
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On the other hand, Obama might just want to know how many and who will not sign loyalty to him. Goes both ways. Just how many do you think will sign? So what, he will assume all those that didn't sign are against him? And just how would he know those against him? They obviously won't be the ones signing? The ones signing it will be the ones wanting to put some effort into his plan. Sorry Willing, that makes no sense. I would have to sign a pledge that gave me the option to NOT support him, why the heck would anyone sign the a pledge to not support him? OK, if it was me in power, I'd know for sure who my allies were with the signed contract. By signing that form , makes you legally bound to act when called upon. I would have to suppose, the fence-straddlers and those who openly opposed me, were against me. Willing, It's not a legal contract. It's about being a volunteer. I think it's about collecting signatures to show support for his plan. And also to email or text people regarding what's going on. He did that before the election too and still is doing that. He's big about using the internet. He used text messages with the young people before the election. It's more of the same. Look reaaallly good at the form. The canvassers are supposed to have the person fill in all the information. There are 2 pages. They are separate for a reason. People think they are only signing up to help with the energy, education, etc. The legal part is what you signed. A legally binding contract has listed at the top, what it is you are agreeing to. You fill in, your name, address, phone number and, if you have one, an email address. At the bottom of all legal contracts, you sign and date it. Signing that form means you belong to Obama. It's not a contract! Like Bo said, we give the same info out for magazine subscriptions. Shoot, I just did that tonight when I got my child a new library card. Yep, I signed that too. That doesn't mean that I belong to the library. I believe your libray card is also legally binding. Rock County Woman Jailed For Overdue Library Books Woman Said She Never Got Overdue Notices Yes, I have an obligation to that library card. But..they don't "own" me like you're saying that Obama would. I can get rid of that library card if I wanted to. I could quit being a volunteer for Obama if I chose to also and if I decided to be one. |
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ok....let me put it this way....can anyone prove that the information gathered WON'T be used at a later date? or used for something else? can anyone prove that it WILL?
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