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Edited by
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Atheist Bus Of course, a message like this breaks a powerful taboo. One of the issues that has arisen from the atheist bus campaign relates to a bus driver who objected to driving a bus with this advertisement. As it happened, the bus company handled the issue in a pretty low-key way, and that was probably wise (or so I think) in this unexpected, one-off situation. It seems that they let him go home on the Saturday afternoon when there was no other bus to drive, though it's not clear to me whether or not they docked his pay for the afternoon. According to the article, when he returned to work on Monday he was called into a meeting with managers. He agreed to go back to work, and they agreed that he would only have to drive the buses if there were no others available. That's an attempt to accommodate his position without a commitment that he would be excused from driving the "atheist bus" if it was the only one they could assign to him. I don't mind the way this was handled, although I've seen lots of claims that management was too soft. (I'm sure there are also lots of people who think it outrageous that an employee can be directed to drive a vehicle with such a heinous, anti-Christian sign on it. LOL) I can recall quite a few times when as an atheist, I've had to sit through a sermon (at a handful of funerals for friends) or sat in a cheesy cab where instead of dice in the rear view mirror, there was a cross hanging there, or a bobbing head Jesus statue glued to the dashboard, ... Am I correct to assume that atheists are by nature more easy going and tend to not get offended as much compared to Christians and other religious folk? |
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That road is paved with good intentions, then. |
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I'm not sure what it's paved with, but it sure is a bumpy ride...
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Edited by
wux
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Sat 08/01/09 04:16 AM
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The Atheist Bus
Too much the atheist bus I take the bus each day To ride my baby every day It’s six pence... ea-each way To see my baby every day Too much, the atheist bus Now, Mr. Conductor, you see here, The fuel inspector has no fear... Too much, the atheist bus Now my driver, you see here, I want my baby here with me Too much the atheist bus And I’ll buy it... I’ll buy it. Okay... you can have the atheist bus... for ONE HUNDRED!!! English pounds. (Ugh...) No... Too much. I’ll give you ninety-nine A hundred Ninety-nine The bus is hundred Ninety-nine Each take hundred Ninety-nine She goes!!!! (guitar riff) One hunndredd...(another guitar riff, guitar solo) Now I drive the atheist bus Too much the atheist bus To my baby every day The atheist bus, The atheist bus, The atheist bus, The atheist bus, The atheist bus, The atheist bus, The atheist bus, The atheist bus, The atheist bussss..... (Guitar riff, guitar solo, chorus, fade, riff, finalé.) |
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In answer to the question of are atheists less offended than other religous people, I will have to say yes and this I know from experience. I live in TN, which is the part of the bible belt, don't know why its called that, but there is a church every 50 feet that you look. I've had many conversations with the religous folk down here, and at some point in the conversation they resort to calling me things like sinner and abomination. I don't get, all we were doing was having a civilised conversation about religion and I do try my utmost to be respectfull. I feel that if you can't offer some respect, then none is due to you. But this scenario has happened time and time again....maybe some people are very comfortable in their beliefs and they don't want to see another side, as if considering another viewpoint is a sin in itself. very strange.
By the way, that is an AWESOME picture!! I'm getting on that bus!! |
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Edited by
wux
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Mon 08/03/09 12:03 AM
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In answer to the question of are atheists less offended than other religous people, I will have to say yes and this I know from experience. I live in TN, which is the part of the bible belt, don't know why its called that, but there is a church every 50 feet that you look. I've had many conversations with the religous folk down here, and at some point in the conversation they resort to calling me things like sinner and abomination. I don't get, all we were doing was having a civilised conversation about religion and I do try my utmost to be respectfull. I feel that if you can't offer some respect, then none is due to you. But this scenario has happened time and time again....maybe some people are very comfortable in their beliefs and they don't want to see another side, as if considering another viewpoint is a sin in itself. very strange. By the way, that is an AWESOME picture!! I'm getting on that bus!! Unfortunately, the bus picture is a fake. If you look closely, you'll notice that the English writing and the Spanish writing are on the same bus at the same time. The interior of the bus and the world on the far side of the bus are identical. This tells me clearer than bells that the picture has been doctored. People should be more careful about falsified propaganda than to allow something like this to happen. About the church folk getting upset: They have a much larger thing at stake if they lose their side of the argument than you if you happen to lose. For you it's on the same level basically as losing a bet whether Kennedy or Abe Lincoln was first assassinated, or another bet in which the question is who lost more lives during the second world war: Peru or the Congo. For Christians it's a wholly different matter. The moment they have to admit that there is no God, thay are damned, because they still believe in God (The Miracle of Faith) and they still believe in all the trimmings, so they spiritually conclude that they are committing a great-great sin for which eternal damnation is the only known cure. So when they get angry and call you bad names, like "blasphemer", or "heathen" or "democrat", then you must remember that it is the de rigeur in their lifestyle. If they don't behave this way, they fear they become condemned. Next time try not bringing up the issue. |
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Next time try not bringing up the issue. Or become accustomed to the response and even over time come to enjoy the raw unreasoning emotion that is just so easy to arouse.
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Next time try not bringing up the issue. Or become accustomed to the response and even over time come to enjoy the raw unreasoning emotion that is just so easy to arouse.
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In answer to the question of are atheists less offended than other religous people, I will have to say yes and this I know from experience. I live in TN, which is the part of the bible belt, don't know why its called that, but there is a church every 50 feet that you look. I've had many conversations with the religous folk down here, and at some point in the conversation they resort to calling me things like sinner and abomination. I don't get, all we were doing was having a civilised conversation about religion and I do try my utmost to be respectfull. I feel that if you can't offer some respect, then none is due to you. But this scenario has happened time and time again....maybe some people are very comfortable in their beliefs and they don't want to see another side, as if considering another viewpoint is a sin in itself. very strange. By the way, that is an AWESOME picture!! I'm getting on that bus!! Unfortunately, the bus picture is a fake. If you look closely, you'll notice that the English writing and the Spanish writing are on the same bus at the same time. The interior of the bus and the world on the far side of the bus are identical. This tells me clearer than bells that the picture has been doctored. People should be more careful about falsified propaganda than to allow something like this to happen. About the church folk getting upset: They have a much larger thing at stake if they lose their side of the argument than you if you happen to lose. For you it's on the same level basically as losing a bet whether Kennedy or Abe Lincoln was first assassinated, or another bet in which the question is who lost more lives during the second world war: Peru or the Congo. For Christians it's a wholly different matter. The moment they have to admit that there is no God, thay are damned, because they still believe in God (The Miracle of Faith) and they still believe in all the trimmings, so they spiritually conclude that they are committing a great-great sin for which eternal damnation is the only known cure. So when they get angry and call you bad names, like "blasphemer", or "heathen" or "democrat", then you must remember that it is the de rigeur in their lifestyle. If they don't behave this way, they fear they become condemned. Next time try not bringing up the issue. So does this mean you agree that atheists are less easily offended? |
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So this photo may be doctored, but I think there have still been ads with a similar kind of theme placed on buses. woo hoo!
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Well, IF there was such a bus, I'd have on objections to hopping on board! Does kinda suck that it was all a lie.... So does this mean you agree that atheists are less easily offended? Are you trying to insult me? Those are pretty offensive words, young man. I am offended by your question. Is this what they taught you at Sunday school? To ask questions? I hardly think so. ;-) |
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In answer to the question of are atheists less offended than other religous people, I will have to say yes and this I know from experience. I live in TN, which is the part of the bible belt, don't know why its called that, but there is a church every 50 feet that you look. I've had many conversations with the religous folk down here, and at some point in the conversation they resort to calling me things like sinner and abomination. I don't get, all we were doing was having a civilised conversation about religion and I do try my utmost to be respectfull. I feel that if you can't offer some respect, then none is due to you. But this scenario has happened time and time again....maybe some people are very comfortable in their beliefs and they don't want to see another side, as if considering another viewpoint is a sin in itself. very strange. By the way, that is an AWESOME picture!! I'm getting on that bus!! I know exactly what you mean. I moved to a little red kneck hick town in Oklahoma at age 11 from Pennsylvania. As soon as they found out I didn't believe in their god thing, I suddenly became a devil worshiping, yankee fag (their words). That little town is the only place I've even been in that I'd thought would be vastly improved by the use of tactical nuke. |
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In answer to the question of are atheists less offended than other religous people, I will have to say yes and this I know from experience. I live in TN, which is the part of the bible belt, don't know why its called that, but there is a church every 50 feet that you look. I've had many conversations with the religous folk down here, and at some point in the conversation they resort to calling me things like sinner and abomination. I don't get, all we were doing was having a civilised conversation about religion and I do try my utmost to be respectfull. I feel that if you can't offer some respect, then none is due to you. But this scenario has happened time and time again....maybe some people are very comfortable in their beliefs and they don't want to see another side, as if considering another viewpoint is a sin in itself. very strange. By the way, that is an AWESOME picture!! I'm getting on that bus!! I know exactly what you mean. I moved to a little red kneck hick town in Oklahoma at age 11 from Pennsylvania. As soon as they found out I didn't believe in their god thing, I suddenly became a devil worshiping, yankee fag (their words). That little town is the only place I've even been in that I'd thought would be vastly improved by the use of tactical nuke. |
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Well, IF there was such a bus, I'd have on objections to hopping on board! Does kinda suck that it was all a lie.... So does this mean you agree that atheists are less easily offended? Are you trying to insult me? Those are pretty offensive words, young man. I am offended by your question. Is this what they taught you at Sunday school? To ask questions? I hardly think so. ;-) |
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In answer to the question of are atheists less offended than other religous people, I will have to say yes and this I know from experience. I live in TN, which is the part of the bible belt, don't know why its called that, but there is a church every 50 feet that you look. I've had many conversations with the religous folk down here, and at some point in the conversation they resort to calling me things like sinner and abomination. I don't get, all we were doing was having a civilised conversation about religion and I do try my utmost to be respectfull. I feel that if you can't offer some respect, then none is due to you. But this scenario has happened time and time again....maybe some people are very comfortable in their beliefs and they don't want to see another side, as if considering another viewpoint is a sin in itself. very strange. By the way, that is an AWESOME picture!! I'm getting on that bus!! I know exactly what you mean. I moved to a little red kneck hick town in Oklahoma at age 11 from Pennsylvania. As soon as they found out I didn't believe in their god thing, I suddenly became a devil worshiping, yankee fag (their words). That little town is the only place I've even been in that I'd thought would be vastly improved by the use of tactical nuke. tempting.... |
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from http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-ia-iowa-atheistbussi,0,5719138.story
>>>> DES MOINES, Iowa - Authorities say an atheist group's advertising signs have been removed from Des Moines Area Regional Transit buses. The ads sponsored by the Iowa Atheist and Free Thinkers group read, "Don't believe in God? You are not alone." They created a storm of controversy when they first went up on Aug. 1. DART's advertising director, Kirsten Baer-Harding said Wednesday the agency's board never approved the signs and that they were put up by mistake. But the president of the atheist group said Baer-Harding had told him the signs had been approved. DART said it started to receiving complaints the minute the ads went on the buses. Baer-Harding said they were removed on Monday. >>>>> |
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Governor "disturbed" by atheist ads on buses Thursday, August 6, 2009, 10:56 AM By Darwin Danielson Athiest ad on bus that has caused controversy.Governor Chet Culver says he sides with those who were upset by advertising signs placed on Des Moines city buses that said "Don't believe in God? You are not alone." The ads sponsored by the Iowa Atheist and Free Thinkers group have now been pulled off the buses. Culver was asked about the ads at an event today. "I was disturbed personally...by the advertisement, I can understand why other Iowans were also disturbed by the message that it sent. But, we'll see how it unfolds," Culver says. Culver would not say whether he felt the atheist group had a free speech right to have the messages on buses. Culver says:" I think it's a great question for the attorney general and for legal scholars to kind of sort through that, that balancing act between free speech and the type of message that is being sent. But I do again understand that people were actually not wanting to get on the bus, they were so disturbed by the message that was being sent." The advertising director for the Des Moines Area Regional Transit (DART) system says the agency's board never approved the signs, but the president of the atheist group said the signs had been approved. Officials says they got complaints as soon as the signs went on the buses. See what the Iowa Atheist and Free Thinkers told Radio Iowa about the bus ads here. >>>>> |
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>>> Governor "disturbed" by atheist ads on buses Thursday, August 6, 2009, 10:56 AM By Darwin Danielson Athiest ad on bus that has caused controversy.Governor Chet Culver says he sides with those who were upset by advertising signs placed on Des Moines city buses that said "Don't believe in God? You are not alone." The ads sponsored by the Iowa Atheist and Free Thinkers group have now been pulled off the buses. Culver was asked about the ads at an event today. "I was disturbed personally...by the advertisement, I can understand why other Iowans were also disturbed by the message that it sent. But, we'll see how it unfolds," Culver says. Culver would not say whether he felt the atheist group had a free speech right to have the messages on buses. Culver says:" I think it's a great question for the attorney general and for legal scholars to kind of sort through that, that balancing act between free speech and the type of message that is being sent. But I do again understand that people were actually not wanting to get on the bus, they were so disturbed by the message that was being sent." The advertising director for the Des Moines Area Regional Transit (DART) system says the agency's board never approved the signs, but the president of the atheist group said the signs had been approved. Officials says they got complaints as soon as the signs went on the buses. See what the Iowa Atheist and Free Thinkers told Radio Iowa about the bus ads here. >>>>> Shows how truly insecure most religionists are. |
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