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Topic: Atheist Bus...!
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Tue 03/23/10 08:55 AM
Edited by massagetrade on Tue 03/23/10 08:56 AM

http://www.freep.com/article/20100316/NEWS01/3160307/1320/Atheist-bus-ads-are-desecrated

Three Detroit buses with advertisements promoting atheism appear to have been vandalized over the past week, an advocacy group said Monday.

The buses featured advertisements earlier this month that read: "Don't believe in God? You are not alone." The signage was paid for by a coalition of atheist and agnostic groups. In one ad, the word "Don't" is torn off, according to photographs provided by the group. On another, the word "Don't" is scratched over several times.

The SMART bus system is replacing the ads for free per its policies, SMART spokeswoman Beth Dryden said. She would not confirm that the advertisements were vandalized, saying only that they were damaged. Dryden said they have not filed a police report.

Atheists said the defaced advertisements were a sign of how they face prejudice.

"It's unfortunate," said Fred Edwords, national director for the United Coalition of Reason, the Washington D.C.-based group that paid for the ads. "It's a sign that we need to keep getting our message out. This kind of prejudice won't go away unless we are up front and out there."

About a dozen of the atheist ads were placed this month on Detroit buses, part of a national campaign to promote atheism that has placed ads in more than 20 cities on buses, subways and billboards.

The defaced ads were discovered during the weekend while the buses were in storage for the night, Dryden said.

Some billboards were vandalized in California this year, Edwords said, but this is the first time that their bus ads have been targeted.

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Mon 04/05/10 02:14 PM
Is it me or does anyone else feel kind of put off that the ads in question seem to read like a support group flyer?

"Don't believe in God? Its ok, we can help you." laugh

Certainly, the free-thinkers can come up with better ideas that don't resemble church billboards.

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Mon 04/05/10 10:07 PM

Is it me or does anyone else feel kind of put off that the ads in question seem to read like a support group flyer?

"Don't believe in God? Its ok, we can help you." laugh

Certainly, the free-thinkers can come up with better ideas that don't resemble church billboards.



It doesn't bother me at all, because I know the ads aren't targeted at me.

For many, the word 'atheist' is the same category as 'rapist' and 'murderer'. Its a disgusting word for despicable people. I've had religionists take me aside, and whisper that they think I might be a decent person, despite being an atheist, and they say the word like its a evil thing. The prejudice is deep seated.


For the atheists who grow up in a family that thinks like that, in a church community that thinks like that, who only have friends like that -- well, recognizing, acknowledging, and expressing one's own atheism can be almost frightening.

I knew I was an atheist when I was five, and I must admit that there was a time period, between the age of 5 and 10, where it would have been really nice to hear a 'support group' type message like that.


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Tue 04/06/10 09:29 AM
Right on. I did not come to question my family's religious views (coming from southern baptists here ... sunday school, bible camp and all that) until my best friend in high school who was atheist did not hide his disbelief. I had never believed it all word for word, but the fear was there, hammered in for fifteen years by extended family members.

What I was trying to get at, I think, was that you can still get that "support" message across without seeming like a therapy group. Its just as easy for a religious group to use the same type of ads to reign in the disbelievers for sunday school. I've actually seen church billboards saying something to that effect ... Don't believe in God? Come in and let us introduce you.

Don

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Tue 04/06/10 08:07 PM

Right on. I did not come to question my family's religious views (coming from southern baptists here ... sunday school, bible camp and all that) until my best friend in high school who was atheist did not hide his disbelief. I had never believed it all word for word, but the fear was there, hammered in for fifteen years by extended family members.

What I was trying to get at, I think, was that you can still get that "support" message across without seeming like a therapy group. Its just as easy for a religious group to use the same type of ads to reign in the disbelievers for sunday school. I've actually seen church billboards saying something to that effect ... Don't believe in God? Come in and let us introduce you.

Don


Seriously? Don't believe in God? Come in and let us introduce you? Do they think that would actually work? hrmpt...
I wanna see the sign that says, "Don't believe in aliens? Come in and let us introduce you". So hoping to hitch a ride off this rock...

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Wed 04/07/10 11:43 AM
... the fear was there, hammered in for fifteen years by extended family members...


Thank you, Christianity.


Don't believe in aliens? Come in and let us introduce you



leprechauns, unicorns, Zeus, loch ness monster...


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Wed 04/07/10 05:17 PM

... the fear was there, hammered in for fifteen years by extended family members...


Thank you, Christianity.


Don't believe in aliens? Come in and let us introduce you



leprechauns, unicorns, Zeus, loch ness monster...




hey, I'd stop by for any one of those. :smile:

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Thu 04/08/10 06:28 PM
LOL. Same here. But yes, I've seen it. Also saw a billboard with the following adorable quote:

God is dead.
-Nietzsche

Nietzsche is dead.
-God

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Thu 04/08/10 11:03 PM

LOL. Same here. But yes, I've seen it. Also saw a billboard with the following adorable quote:

God is dead.
-Nietzsche

Nietzsche is dead.
-God


well...both are kinda true...

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Fri 04/09/10 01:04 PM
laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 07/11/10 05:47 PM
Don't believe in God? Come in and let us introduce you.


It'd be too risky for me to try that. Many a single woman or divorcee has been introduced to me. What if God rejects me, too? I don't think my ego could handle that.

Better have things left as they are. As long as I don't ask, I don't have to face god's rejection.

I wonder how many people who pray struggle with this. My belief is that prayers are never answered, and when they appear to be, it's a coincidence. How can people weather that? You need either a pretty thick skin, or to be needy and desperate beyond belief.

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Mon 07/12/10 08:59 AM

Don't believe in God? Come in and let us introduce you.


It'd be too risky for me to try that. Many a single woman or divorcee has been introduced to me. What if God rejects me, too? I don't think my ego could handle that.

Better have things left as they are. As long as I don't ask, I don't have to face god's rejection.

I wonder how many people who pray struggle with this. My belief is that prayers are never answered, and when they appear to be, it's a coincidence. How can people weather that? You need either a pretty thick skin, or to be needy and desperate beyond belief.


Naw, you just need a bit of nuttiness.
To wit: When you pray to God...
A. What you pray for comes to pass. Yea God.
B. What you pray for doesn't come to pass. But it's all part of God's plan. Yea God.


It's a variation of the old "heads I win, tails you lose" joke.
Unfortunatly, most of them never get it.

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Tue 07/13/10 10:18 AM
I know a woman who thinks that her presence causes lights to switch on as she walks down the street around dusk. She has the repeated experience of noticing that this scenario occurs: most of the lights are off. she's walking down the street, and as she walks past on of the lights, it turns on.

She is certain that her habits of noticing this gives her a sufficiently objective impression of how often it happens. Oddly, she is viewed by many as an intelligent person.



With this lack of awareness of biased perceptions, it is very easy to believe your prayers are being answered; and worse, to believe you had evidence that your prayers are being answered.

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Tue 07/13/10 10:20 AM
Also, focusing ones intentions helps many people to take the actions necessary to realize their desires. Prayer is a form of focused attention on one's desires.

In this way, prayer can help to bring about those things which are even slightly under a persons influence - like a new job, improvement in a relationship, better athletic performance, etc.

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Mon 07/19/10 08:21 AM

I know a woman who thinks that her presence causes lights to switch on as she walks down the street around dusk. She has the repeated experience of noticing that this scenario occurs: most of the lights are off. she's walking down the street, and as she walks past on of the lights, it turns on.

She is certain that her habits of noticing this gives her a sufficiently objective impression of how often it happens. Oddly, she is viewed by many as an intelligent person.



With this lack of awareness of biased perceptions, it is very easy to believe your prayers are being answered; and worse, to believe you had evidence that your prayers are being answered.


I used to think street lights came on when I walked by too. But I was just a kid at the time. With just a little research, one can easily disprove such notions. As one can with most silly notions.

I agree w/ you on the lack of awareness. Most people seem to suffer from that malady. More's the pity.

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Mon 07/19/10 08:22 AM

Also, focusing ones intentions helps many people to take the actions necessary to realize their desires. Prayer is a form of focused attention on one's desires.

In this way, prayer can help to bring about those things which are even slightly under a persons influence - like a new job, improvement in a relationship, better athletic performance, etc.


Again, it comes back to lack of awareness.

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