Topic: the Obama Deception
think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 01:25 PM
what exactly would it take to prove that this is happening? i want to know.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/16/09 01:25 PM
if people wouldn't buy it....they wouldn't stay in business

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 01:41 PM

what exactly would it take to prove that this is happening? i want to know.


is there anyone here that can answer my question?

boredinaz06's photo
Mon 03/16/09 01:44 PM



Alex Jones - How much money is he making with his t-shirts and dvds lately?

The man blends reality with myths so cleverly, that you go criticize any topic of his and he will shower you with facts.

Half truths are still a lie.

Never forget to ask - What's his purpose and what is he trying to achieve? You enter prisonplanet or infowars and you get showered by ads to buy dvd-s and t-shirts and to open an account to pre order stuff of buy previous of his videos.

Hysteria and fear sells. Bush did the same thing with the terrorist threat (although with more realistic bases), now Alex Jones is making a killing by the hardcore believers who sleep/eat/drink conspiracy theories. Economy crisis, Middle-East, secret societies, Freemasons, Bilderbergs, new world order, neocons, fascists, police state, amero, north American union, NAFTA, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Rockefeller, - all melted together into a giant mass of world conspiracy to enslave the planet and to put a chip inside your body (which is a mark of the beast), the end times and the fall of USA and the fall of the dollar and removing the Constitution. At the end, you will be a society of Borgs with a few people being as the collective and you will worship of the Antichrist.

Are you scared enough yet? Will you dare to step outside your house?

Alex Jones - with a serious background (radio host) will explain everything to you and why you should protest front of the Mariott hotel against the conspirators against humanity.

I know, now I'm probably "part of the plan" saying negative stuff about this, I might be a Bilderberg myself or a "watcher" a "man in black" trying to discredit this "american hero" and I probably show up on the Bohemian groove and wear the sign of the Freemasons.

pitchfork -- oouhhh there you go, I might be a demon worshipper government agent! devil


just throwing this out there for thought. it costs money to make these videos. he has to spend money on lodging, food, transportation costs. basically operation costs are probably pretty huge. and if we want him to keep showing us the things he is actually going out and getting footage of, then he needs help with the financing part. what's wrong with charging for the video to help finance this. at least he isn't just showing us what he's finding on the internet, he is actually going out himself and videoing this.



Yes and all the money he spends will come back tenfold from people that eat this stuff up. That proves nothing. Ever heard of rag mags? I can't believe they make two cents, personally, but people support that stuff. This guy isn't stupid he knows that fear sells. Yet some think we are even too stupid to pick that up.


I Wouldn't Necessarily Consider it "Fear" but it is Something to think about! What Real Control do "We the Sheeple" Have over the Government? do You Think that when We Vote that it isn't Contrived? the Powers that are Really in Control Know Who They Want in "Power".

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 01:48 PM

what exactly would it take to prove that this is happening? i want to know.

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/16/09 02:16 PM

Alex Jones - How much money is he making with his t-shirts and dvds lately?

The man blends reality with myths so cleverly, that you go criticize any topic of his and he will shower you with facts.

Half truths are still a lie.

Never forget to ask - What's his purpose and what is he trying to achieve? You enter prisonplanet or infowars and you get showered by ads to buy dvd-s and t-shirts and to open an account to pre order stuff of buy previous of his videos.

Hysteria and fear sells.

Bush did the same thing with the terrorist threat (although with more realistic bases), now Alex Jones is making a killing by the hardcore believers who sleep/eat/drink conspiracy theories. Israel injects fear into the people by pushing the "Iranian threat" while the Anti Defamation League screamnig antisemitism and trying to scare the bejesus out of Jews in Europe and other parts of the world.

in USA the "muslim threat" puts a real target in everyone's eyes, and while there are extremists and fanatics in the Muslim world, it's also apparently true in the Christian and Jewish world.
Without having a fear, the public would not support wars and killing.



Economy crisis, Middle-East, secret societies, Freemasons, Bilderbergs, new world order, neocons, fascists, police state, amero, north American union, NAFTA, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Rockefeller, - all melted together into a giant mass of world conspiracy to enslave the planet and to put a chip inside your body (which is a mark of the beast), the end times and the fall of USA and the fall of the dollar and removing the Constitution. At the end, you will be a society of Borgs with a few people being as the collective and you will worship of the Antichrist.

Are you scared enough yet? Will you dare to step outside your house?

Alex Jones - with a serious background (radio host) will explain everything to you and why you should protest front of the Mariott hotel against the conspirators against humanity.

I know, now I'm probably "part of the plan" saying negative stuff about this, I might be a Bilderberg myself or a "watcher" a "man in black" trying to discredit this "american hero" and I probably show up on the Bohemian groove and wear the sign of the Freemasons.

Ohh, and I'm also a dual citizen, that makes my case even worse. I probably have an agenda to enslave the Americans.

pitchfork -- oouhhh there you go, I might be a demon worshipper government agent! devil

I'm just trying to help you here, really, discredit and critique the fanatics and those who take advantage of you. flowerforyou




Okay. I'll start with this first, seeing as how this is some sort of an attack on Jones. I've been listening to Jones for years and one of the first and most repeated thing he's told his listeners to do is: Do your own research. Which I have. I do not reproduce anything he's said without first checking the sources, then I bring that info to everyone else, because thats the second most repeated thing that Mr.Jones tells his listeners.

"You enter prisonplanet or infowars and you get showered by ads to buy dvd-s and t-shirts and to open an account to pre order stuff of buy previous of his videos."

First, this is a distortion of what Prisonplanet.com and infowars looks like. Does he have ads? Yep, but so does Mingle and just about any other website out there. Mr.Jones has a fairly high overhead, especially when he makes a movie at a cost of 100,000 dollars or more and then sees them all released for free to the net, before he can make 1/10 of the cost back. However, showered with ads and preorder accounts? Not hardly, unless you click on any of the links to products like Ecoloblue, Berkey water systems or Survalist seeds, will you actually see any ads asking for business and as for the order account, Mr. Jones is (gasp) a documentary film maker, would we be hearing about Micheal Moore, if he didn't advertise his Movies? As a sidenote, Mr. Jones also uses his website to disseminate others work as well, whether thats C.Edward Griffins "Creature from Jekyll Island" about the creation of the Federal Reserve or William Lewis' Movie "Washington You're fired", Jones uses the fact he has 10's of millions of listeners and visitors to his website to give those who tell the truth a platform to push their wares. When was the last time you heard FBN or CNBC talking about The Creature from Jekyll Island or airing an Advert for heirloom seeds that are GMO free? Thats right, Never.

I find it disturbing and distgusting that rather than debate the info Mr. Jones comes forward with, it's an attack on his character, which I've found to be pretty da*m impeccable, and a loose tossing around of the Conspiracy Theory slur.

To say that Alex is making a killing selling fear is just flat wrong, the man loses money hand over fist, seeing his films hit the web and what money he does make, he dumps right back into his business. While everyone else was/is contracting, Jones has been growing his business, building a studio to create a daily televison product, making his films, hiring more employees and producing the new Jason Bermas program, "The InfoWarrior". To say that Alex Jones is a workaholic is a gross understatement in my opinion and I find it irresponsible to paste the work he's done and the information and educational tools it provides with a carte blanche "he's in it for the money" and "Conspiracy Theorist" whitewashing.

Another irresponsible thing in that post is this:

"Economy crisis, Middle-East, secret societies, Freemasons, Bilderbergs, new world order, neocons, fascists, police state, amero, north American union, NAFTA, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Rockefeller, - all melted together into a giant mass of world conspiracy to enslave the planet and to put a chip inside your body (which is a mark of the beast), the end times and the fall of USA and the fall of the dollar and removing the Constitution."

Which one of these things is the much touted theory or scare mongering tactic, can you tell me which one of these things isn't real?

All the other stuff in there is just sarcastic fluff, which does nothing to further the fact that elements of this Government (and others as well) do produce disinfo.



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Mon 03/16/09 02:33 PM
Looks like just a compilation of half truths portrayed dramatically as whole truth convictions. This is about as ridiculous as that show on TV called 24.

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 02:37 PM


what exactly would it take to prove that this is happening? i want to know.

please tell me. no one wants to tackle this one do they?

no photo
Mon 03/16/09 02:38 PM

Looks like just a compilation of half truths portrayed dramatically as whole truth convictions. This is about as ridiculous as that show on TV called 24.


That is exactly what I was thinking...

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/16/09 02:40 PM
Honestly, there isn't any Conspiracy?

Right now, we have more than a million people on a no fly list, which I might tell you, if we have a million potential terrorists in this country, then the shows over, but then you have Rahm "IDF" Emmanuel saying they're going to use that list to revoke citizens 2nd Amendment rights.

Now why would a Government seek to broadly diarm it's populace?

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 02:43 PM



what exactly would it take to prove that this is happening? i want to know.

please tell me. no one wants to tackle this one do they?


no takers for my question yet?

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/16/09 02:53 PM




what exactly would it take to prove that this is happening? i want to know.

please tell me. no one wants to tackle this one do they?


no takers for my question yet?


I would seriously doubt that you are going to have any takers for any one section of the pyramid, let alone someone who wants to tackle the capstone.

That would take work, research and if they did that, they'd be done. It's so much easier to throw around the "Conspiracy Theory" label like so many ethnic slurs.

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Mon 03/16/09 02:55 PM




what exactly would it take to prove that this is happening? i want to know.

please tell me. no one wants to tackle this one do they?


no takers for my question yet?


About 2 pints of hard liquor, some weed, and 1/2 pound of cocaine.
That should make one hallucinate enough to prove it.

laugh laugh laugh

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/16/09 03:01 PM





what exactly would it take to prove that this is happening? i want to know.

please tell me. no one wants to tackle this one do they?


no takers for my question yet?


About 2 pints of hard liquor, some weed, and 1/2 pound of cocaine.
That should make one hallucinate enough to prove it.

laugh laugh laugh


I think that proves my point sufficiently enough.

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 03:17 PM






what exactly would it take to prove that this is happening? i want to know.

please tell me. no one wants to tackle this one do they?


no takers for my question yet?


About 2 pints of hard liquor, some weed, and 1/2 pound of cocaine.
That should make one hallucinate enough to prove it.

laugh laugh laugh


I think that proves my point sufficiently enough.


yes it does. no doubts in my mind on that one.

warmachine's photo
Mon 03/16/09 06:10 PM
I've now watched the movie twice, from the link I provided. I truly think that as long as you're not dealing with someone who has closed themselves down to any alternative way of thinking, no other options for viewing the world except their own, that The Obama Deception is going to go a long way towards getting people to stand up for themselves again, educating themselves again, learning how to be independant from a government who seems to see the People, not as individuals, but as a cash cow to be milked and sent off to slaughter.

think2deep's photo
Mon 03/16/09 06:17 PM

I've now watched the movie twice, from the link I provided. I truly think that as long as you're not dealing with someone who has closed themselves down to any alternative way of thinking, no other options for viewing the world except their own, that The Obama Deception is going to go a long way towards getting people to stand up for themselves again, educating themselves again, learning how to be independant from a government who seems to see the People, not as individuals, but as a cash cow to be milked and sent off to slaughter.


war, the sad part about it is that people are far too gone to do any good. we can blow the whistle till we are blue in the face. obama could stand there, tell the american people exactly what the hidden agenda is without any sugar coating and only a big smile and the people will still not believe it. just like how they make all of the side effects of these new drugs sound like their nothing to worry about. even if it means suicidal thoughts or death. obama could just tell them that slavery of the american people is a good thing and they will follow him right on through, just like jim jones' cool aid.

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Mon 03/16/09 07:00 PM





OBAMA DECEPTION DIRECTOR ALEX JONES REACHES OUT TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMi8shnpLo


I've watched this two times. It's interesting. But..the big part where he loses me is when he talks about the Habeaus Corpus being gone and the military being against us.

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Mon 03/16/09 08:52 PM






OBAMA DECEPTION DIRECTOR ALEX JONES REACHES OUT TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMi8shnpLo


I've watched this two times. It's interesting. But..the big part where he loses me is when he talks about the Habeaus Corpus being gone and the military being against us.


I don't Know about Habeaus Corpus but I don't think Our Soldiers will Stand against the People! they Join to Defend the Country and their Countrymen and Women not the Government.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 03/16/09 08:56 PM







OBAMA DECEPTION DIRECTOR ALEX JONES REACHES OUT TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTMi8shnpLo


I've watched this two times. It's interesting. But..the big part where he loses me is when he talks about the Habeaus Corpus being gone and the military being against us.


I don't Know about Habeaus Corpus but I don't think Our Soldiers will Stand against the People! they Join to Defend the Country and their Countrymen and Women not the Government.


i do agree with that 100%