Some people inherited (old money) some screwed their way into it.(by that I mean cheated) (then there are those who did screw their way into it) Some who lucked into it (lottery, chance luck to a good idea)Nothing wrong with good ideas...ie computers...invention of bricks...the automobile...etc..

I have nothing bad to say to those that make it into the millions. But.......how rich is too rich? I mean heck...100,000,000 million? How can they ever spend that much? Their families can stay rich off the interest alone. Many of us here could stay at home and have a good life on just the interest.

Now Bill Gates and Buffett rich, do give so many millions away to charities and foundations....they do good with their money. I applaud them.

I have a few cousins and an Aunt that have so much money...the cousins tried everything from bootleg tapes and so forth paying fines and what have ya til they got it right. They are worth very much money.

Point is....they kept on trying til it worked. They are all in the same family. My aunt got into real estate through one of the cousins and she made her wealth there in Texas. Moved back here and is comfortably retired. She paid for her home in cash and has no monetary worries.

Wealth can happen by chance without education.

Kat

if anything is bound, by being gaged, to only certain words, then what is within, cannot come out, and is most what seperate anything from good within, by not allowing the stench to be expelled, and unfortunately, in a place called PC correct, no such thing is embraced, and most destroy any greater good to become as reality.

there is emmense faith in the operator's of mingle2, that each day, the sight of just how important total free speech is, and how it allow crap to be spoken forth, and even as it come forth, relieve, what if left inside, fester and create great sore's of evil on the brain, that bounce around and taint every other thought that come in the door of the mind, and left within, be the only thing that most perpetuate less desirable deeds.

"He is rich or poor according to what he is, not according to what he has."


David; I bet you are a good poet.

Kat

While I agree we should be civil, I don't agree that everyone makes it easy to be civil. LoL. Frankly this site would not shut down that easily with the peope behind it pretty much on top of things as they are.

the true sight of what allow less good, bring the heart to weeping, with the seeing, it is most the lack of a free environment, allowing and giving the ability to expell what is less good, that create most what is less good, and the sight that all things as now, are built upon a "premise and holy grail", of good speech as the only thing that can create good.

it is but illusions that tell the mind no negative can fix a negative, and subvert the natural cause and effect of the very nature of the earth, that each mortal thing as well, mimic in all ways.

if a world has come to have much negative within it, then no words of positive alone can set forth a straight course, and indeed, make it appear as some great hand, greater than what has thus far existed, must come forth to envoke such freedoms, to create and restore any greater good.

People that I employ are soley for optimal production and profits. I could manufacture my products by myself (and actually started out that way); However, I wouldn't manufacture near as many items and wouldn't profit near as much. I am dependent upon other entrepreneurs for goods and services (I.E. raw materials and such)... who hire workers for the same reason I do. Dependent upon consumers to purchase my products.

As I stated earlier, you are free do whatever you choose to do (that would apply in the subjective realm of ambition as well). This doesn't make you my enemy. It's when you become dependent upon me financially for your means to exist (when you have the ways and means) without reciprocal compensation to be independent is when you become my "enemy".

Taxes are an entirely different topic. If something should incapacitate me, I can only claim that not one cent of your taxes will go towards my treatments and/or recovery. Insurance aside, wise and prudent investments will guarantee that (which includes hiring good, intelligent, ambitious, and motivated employees who are compensated for their time and efforts). So long as traditional capitalist values are maintained, I shall not be a finanical burden to anyone. It's not a matter of if we are dependent upon others (that is a given in modern industrialized society), it's to what degree and who pays and who doesn't that is the source of controversy. I would generally tend to believe that the more one is forced to pay, the more it would bug them.

In regards to this topic... you too may benefit from the story of "The Little Red Hen" as per "ambition".

The rich are rich (financially)for the direct opposite reasons the poor are poor. Hard work, ambition, luck/timing, or education/intelligence. Proof once again that life just ain't fair nor equal.

All people are chained down to heavy toil by poverty more firmly than ever. They were chained by slavery and serfdom; from these, one way and another, they might free themselves. These could be settled with, but from want they will never get away. We have included in the constitution such rights as to the masses appear fictitious and not actual rights. All these so-called “Peoples Rights” can exist only in idea, an idea which can never be realized in practical life. What is it to the proletariat laborer, bowed double over his heavy toil, crushed by his lot in life, if talkers get the right to babble, if journalists get the right to scribble any nonsense side by side with good stuff, once the proletariat has no other profit out of the constitution save only those pitiful crumbs which we fling them from our table in return for their voting in favor of what we dictate, in favor of the men we place in power, the servants of our AGENTUR … Republican rights for a poor man are no more than a bitter piece of irony, for the necessity he is under of toiling almost all day gives him no present use of them, but the other hand robs him of all guarantee of regular and certain earnings by making him dependent on strikes by his comrades or lockouts by his masters.

Interesting responses to this post...

Here is a little insight...

When I say "RICH" I am speaking monetary.

What do I mean by "RICH" ANYONE who has more money then I do.

I have never made more then 20,000
Has my life been horrible...NO
Would I like it to be better? YES
If i Had money could? YES

THere are alot of things I want to do in life.. Lack of money is stopping me from doing that.

I dont care how people got to be rich... the point is

allot of people hate the rich for simply being rich without even knowing how they got rich..

It doesnt change the fact that it is thier money.. and the poor benifit from thier money.. and yet the rich are hated.

Why do poor people not pay taxes.. because of the extra tax placed on the rich..

why do poor people get earned income credit.. because of the rich
why do poor people get free shelter because of the rich..

Yes many people who are poor donate. to homeless shelters and such

but because of the rich and thier high taxes they pay it allows poor people to live a little easier..

NOW

as far as rich people palying taxez came into question..
well you can look at the domocrats on that one..

the facts are.. and if need be i will find the sources

republicans donate more to charities then democrates

OUR vice president donated only 500 dollars to charity....

once again im not rich.... but have donated almost 400 in one year if not more...

NOW you tell me how much the democrats really care for peer people???????

ITS SAD AND ITS SICK

Also

maybe people shoudlnt get so riled up on things.. you dont know me... you have no idea who I am what I do..

Maybe I write things from the heart.. or maybe jsut to get a reaction from you..

Here is what I would do if I won the mega millions..

in no specific order..

buy a nice car
buy a nice house
pay off ex wifes house
give her enough to live off of
set up a trust for her children and their children
pay off my parents house
buy them a new car
buy them a nice house
give them enough to live off of
repeat above for my sister

i would then put so much in the bank and create secret non profit
that the operating budget would be the interest on the account
this non profit would have people going into the community and when they find people in dire need they would receive help anonymously.

I would then buy a few businesses and put enough money in the bank to run the businesses off of the interest. That way no matter what the sales of the business does. people will still be employed.

So this is why I desire to be rich..
there is nothing like the feeling of helping someone when they are in need.

Let me tell you something.. I have little no money.. due to circumstances in my life I virtually broke. I have a job i have a car.

My ex step daughter is now 18. She has worked hard in school. She has never had a boyfriend. Or really gone on a date. (thank GOD)(please do not post how bad it is that she has not dated. It was her choice. ANd yes she is beautiful)
She applied for college this year to University of Michigan.
She was accepted. And received a 40,000 scholarship.
I am so proud of her.

So what did I do.. I used my over draft protection and bought her a brand new laptop to ease her studies. She was having to use the library computer and could only use for 30 minutes at a time.

When she opened it the look on her face was priceless. In fact she thought it was a joke.

I will never forget that moment.

SO to people that say money cannot buy happiness you are wrong.
No money cannot buy you things to make you have.. but money can buy thing for other people... to make you happy.

Now i know were this is going to go..
people are going to say that you can volunteer and blah blah blah.

I have done that. I have my own business and given great discounts to people who could not afford my services. Maybe that is why I am not rich. because I see people that want my services and I fell compleed to help them out.

SO with that said.. maybe you can see a little of my motivation..

I am so looking foreword how people will twist my words on this one. somehow tell me i am a bad parent and so on..

bring it on.. you are not in my shoes.. you dont know me.. but one day you might.

niceguy4u937 that is quite a touching story.

BS. The deck is not stacked against the poor. As I have stated in another thread, my parents were poor. Yet, they have sacrificed to provide a very good private teachers for me.

Rich did not get the same.

The deck is stacked only against those who are mentally poor, as it should be. If one doesn't have the heart to survive, then he's got nothing to complain about.

Another point: The poor are doing everything possible to stack the deck against themselves. Because, most poor are stupid and immoral (not all). This is the most usual reason for being poor, and not the adversity, as so many like to believe. Because they are stupid and immoral, they work very hard to skew what seems to them as uneven playing field, not to the balance, but to their favor.

Next comes this: Because their motivation is immoral, they always achieve the opposite of what they have imagined the result would be.
And that is fair and just.

An example of how poor stack the deck against themselves? There are hundreds. Take education. Most poor fight for equal funding and equal results, which means they are going to get the same ****ty education as rich kids, except that those rich kids will have a jump start after the school. Ha-ha... What did the poor achieve?

Like I said, the weakness is not in having no money, but it is in having no character. That is their sin, and it shall keep them servants.

Not sure who you were expecting to twist your words here but it won't be me. I don't have any problem with what you said here except about people envious or hating the rich. I think people don't like it when the rich take advantage, but I don't hear people saying the hate the rich because they are rich, though there might be some that do, that would be strange to me.

thanks...you people wait until i'm lit to discuss this.

While I no longer have your ambition at my age and because as I have aged I seem to require less gratification, speaking only for myself. I am just happy with much less and with the simple life I have made for myself, and happy that I don't have to be anyones burden. But as I have said before it really doesn't bother me that my taxes contribute to those in need. As for those who don't care about anything, well again I don't focus on that sort of thing our I would be upset all the time and I can't do that.

Well I thank you for your response but I still don't particularly understand, for a guy who seems articulate and doing quite well, why you seem to be so uptight.

I will check out the Little red hen but it better not be some insult to me or I will be back to haunt your a$$...

news flash to people....there are more important things in life

lol...

what a sweetheart.

don't you build me up buttercup lol (ok that took me way too long to type that)

what are we talking about??? lol

brb...gonna kick davidben in the butt

hey, since i have equally torn you down, then the building up has much more meaning, does it not???

i just seen the real behind your words is all, lol...

peace girl...

there is no other greater peace and joy, then just simply saying what self is, without abandon.

love ya david...but despite what's on the bathroom walls...i'm not that easy lol

did i say that???

i could nor would, speak the words to you i do, if i wanted something from you.

the only thing that drive me, is the elimination of what bring pain, for one and all.