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hey, you guys ought to take a look at this 30 second video, i won't tell you what it is other than it's a commercial. come back and tell me what you think. i can't wait to hear this lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WV3_jYB5HU |
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What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action? I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations. Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know. Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code? Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command? According to the UCMJ if I remember correctly. You are to obey orders from your superiors. Now with President Obama's birth cirtificate being in question by this soldier it prob falls into one of those gray areas. But he should follow lawful orders until proven if it can be proven that President Obama is not a legaly born citizen. i posted this earlier tjn but you probably missed it notice where it says in the ucmj where in says it says it is a soldiers obligation not to follow an unlwfull order "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. |
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What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action? I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations. Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know. Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code? Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command? According to the UCMJ if I remember correctly. You are to obey orders from your superiors. Now with President Obama's birth cirtificate being in question by this soldier it prob falls into one of those gray areas. But he should follow lawful orders until proven if it can be proven that President Obama is not a legaly born citizen. i posted this earlier tjn but you probably missed it notice where it says in the ucmj where in says it says it is a soldiers obligation not to follow an unlwfull order "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. So then he has to obey any lawful order givin to him by President Obama, until they can come up with proof he could not under the constitution be president. End of story. He will end up in Levonwirth for treason if he doesnt watch it. If it's not to late allready. |
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What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action? I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations. Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know. Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code? Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command? According to the UCMJ if I remember correctly. You are to obey orders from your superiors. Now with President Obama's birth cirtificate being in question by this soldier it prob falls into one of those gray areas. But he should follow lawful orders until proven if it can be proven that President Obama is not a legaly born citizen. i posted this earlier tjn but you probably missed it notice where it says in the ucmj where in says it says it is a soldiers obligation not to follow an unlwfull order "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. So then he has to obey any lawful order givin to him by President Obama, until they can come up with proof he could not under the constitution be president. End of story. He will end up in Levonwirth for treason if he doesnt watch it. If it's not to late allready. yes unless the order is unlawfull , if it violates the constitution , civil roghts , the rules of engagement , or moral values hen the order does not have to be obeyd. |
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What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action? I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations. Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know. Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code? Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command? According to the UCMJ if I remember correctly. You are to obey orders from your superiors. Now with President Obama's birth cirtificate being in question by this soldier it prob falls into one of those gray areas. But he should follow lawful orders until proven if it can be proven that President Obama is not a legaly born citizen. i posted this earlier tjn but you probably missed it notice where it says in the ucmj where in says it says it is a soldiers obligation not to follow an unlwfull order "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. So then he has to obey any lawful order givin to him by President Obama, until they can come up with proof he could not under the constitution be president. End of story. He will end up in Levonwirth for treason if he doesnt watch it. If it's not to late allready. Wow, treason. I didn't see that one coming. |
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What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action? I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations. Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know. Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code? Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command? According to the UCMJ if I remember correctly. You are to obey orders from your superiors. Now with President Obama's birth cirtificate being in question by this soldier it prob falls into one of those gray areas. But he should follow lawful orders until proven if it can be proven that President Obama is not a legaly born citizen. i posted this earlier tjn but you probably missed it notice where it says in the ucmj where in says it says it is a soldiers obligation not to follow an unlwfull order "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. So then he has to obey any lawful order givin to him by President Obama, until they can come up with proof he could not under the constitution be president. End of story. He will end up in Levonwirth for treason if he doesnt watch it. If it's not to late allready. Wow, treason. I didn't see that one coming. me niether |
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What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action? I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations. Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know. Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code? Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command? According to the UCMJ if I remember correctly. You are to obey orders from your superiors. Now with President Obama's birth cirtificate being in question by this soldier it prob falls into one of those gray areas. But he should follow lawful orders until proven if it can be proven that President Obama is not a legaly born citizen. i posted this earlier tjn but you probably missed it notice where it says in the ucmj where in says it says it is a soldiers obligation not to follow an unlwfull order "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. So then he has to obey any lawful order givin to him by President Obama, until they can come up with proof he could not under the constitution be president. End of story. He will end up in Levonwirth for treason if he doesnt watch it. If it's not to late allready. Wow, treason. I didn't see that one coming. I'm just saying he has no proof that Obama isnt our president so if he is going against him then thats treason. |
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What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action? I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations. Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know. Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code? Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command? According to the UCMJ if I remember correctly. You are to obey orders from your superiors. Now with President Obama's birth cirtificate being in question by this soldier it prob falls into one of those gray areas. But he should follow lawful orders until proven if it can be proven that President Obama is not a legaly born citizen. i posted this earlier tjn but you probably missed it notice where it says in the ucmj where in says it says it is a soldiers obligation not to follow an unlwfull order "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. So then he has to obey any lawful order givin to him by President Obama, until they can come up with proof he could not under the constitution be president. End of story. He will end up in Levonwirth for treason if he doesnt watch it. If it's not to late allready. Wow, treason. I didn't see that one coming. I'm just saying he has no proof that Obama isnt our president so if he is going against him then thats treason. it is not treason if that order violates the constitution regardless who gives the order . if the president gives you an order to executr unarmed civilians you can be tried for following the order . didnt i already explain this ? am i talking to a brick wall ? 
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What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action? I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations. Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know. Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code? Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command? According to the UCMJ if I remember correctly. You are to obey orders from your superiors. Now with President Obama's birth cirtificate being in question by this soldier it prob falls into one of those gray areas. But he should follow lawful orders until proven if it can be proven that President Obama is not a legaly born citizen. i posted this earlier tjn but you probably missed it notice where it says in the ucmj where in says it says it is a soldiers obligation not to follow an unlwfull order "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. So then he has to obey any lawful order givin to him by President Obama, until they can come up with proof he could not under the constitution be president. End of story. He will end up in Levonwirth for treason if he doesnt watch it. If it's not to late allready. Wow, treason. I didn't see that one coming. I'm just saying he has no proof that Obama isnt our president so if he is going against him then thats treason. it is not treason if that order violates the constitution regardless who gives the order . if the president gives you an order to executr unarmed civilians you can be tried for following the order . didnt i already explain this ? am i talking to a brick wall ?
No you are 100% correct about that. The topic was about a soldier not believing Obama is our president. Until he can prove that then he needs to do his job! What order has president Obama given that is unlawful, or unconstitutional? |
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What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action? I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations. Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know. Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code? Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command? According to the UCMJ if I remember correctly. You are to obey orders from your superiors. Now with President Obama's birth cirtificate being in question by this soldier it prob falls into one of those gray areas. But he should follow lawful orders until proven if it can be proven that President Obama is not a legaly born citizen. i posted this earlier tjn but you probably missed it notice where it says in the ucmj where in says it says it is a soldiers obligation not to follow an unlwfull order "lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. So then he has to obey any lawful order givin to him by President Obama, until they can come up with proof he could not under the constitution be president. End of story. He will end up in Levonwirth for treason if he doesnt watch it. If it's not to late allready. Wow, treason. I didn't see that one coming. I'm just saying he has no proof that Obama isnt our president so if he is going against him then thats treason. it is not treason if that order violates the constitution regardless who gives the order . if the president gives you an order to executr unarmed civilians you can be tried for following the order . didnt i already explain this ? am i talking to a brick wall ?
No you are 100% correct about that. The topic was about a soldier not believing Obama is our president. Until he can prove that then he needs to do his job! What order has president Obama given that is unlawful, or unconstitutional? oh sorry tjn i didnt read the op i answere lynanns question sorry man |
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Individuals do not keep the one and only official copy. The official certificate was already provided a long time ago to resolve this issue. They then started saying the official certificate was a fake.
It's just something to continue to carry out the controversy. |
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ok now that i read the op lol yes unless given an unlawfull order he has to follow . if not he will be tried for treason . tjn is completly right anout that . sorry tjn . i got lost . feel free to kick me rose
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ok now that i read the op lol yes unless given an unlawfull order he has to follow . if not he will be tried for treason . tjn is completly right anout that . sorry tjn . i got lost . feel free to kick me rose brb TJN...what did i get kicked for??? i'm innocent |
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ok now that i read the op lol yes unless given an unlawfull order he has to follow . if not he will be tried for treason . tjn is completly right anout that . sorry tjn . i got lost . feel free to kick me rose brb TJN...what did i get kicked for??? i'm innocent i deserved that rose tjn feel free to kick as way as well . |
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still loves ya dan
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ok now that i read the op lol yes unless given an unlawfull order he has to follow . if not he will be tried for treason . tjn is completly right anout that . sorry tjn . i got lost . feel free to kick me rose brb TJN...what did i get kicked for??? i'm innocent for plugging your ears and going LALALALALALALA |
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ok now that i read the op lol yes unless given an unlawfull order he has to follow . if not he will be tried for treason . tjn is completly right anout that . sorry tjn . i got lost . feel free to kick me rose brb TJN...what did i get kicked for??? i'm innocent i deserved that rose tjn feel free to kick as way as well . no kick deserved, we were just on dif pages |
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