Topic: And so it goes...
yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:17 PM


what?


Where?


when?

Winx's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:17 PM



what?


Where?


when?


How?

dantaylor28's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:17 PM



what?


Where?


when?


where.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:18 PM




what?


Where?


when?


where.


how?

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:18 PM
to what extent

HA!!!! beat ya to it

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:20 PM
offtopic oops

so why should it matter if Obama was born in the US or became a citizen later?

think2deep's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:26 PM
well, wouldn't it be better to know for sure that the person you call your president is really eligible to be the president? if i was president, i would nip that one in the bud right off, everyone would see a nice fresh vault copy of my birth certificate. he had no problems with doing the vows over the next day to make sure that no one could say they weren't legit. why is he not cooperating with this?

i've researched it today and all i could see was that it was thrown out because the plaintiffs apparently had no standing. no standing means that they couldn't prove any damage to the plaintiff personally, done by the defendent (this is what the courts used for their reason of throwing it out). i know this about standing because i'm having to do some legal research for fighting a ticket. it doesn't mean that the plaintiff is wrong, it just means that they can't show actual personal damage. it doesn't mean that they saw a birth certificate. they didn't have to to throw it out on a 'standing' issue. just kinda doesn't sit with me too well. it's got a 'cover up' kind of feel to it.

think2deep's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:28 PM

offtopic oops

so why should it matter if Obama was born in the US or became a citizen later?


because only a natural born citizen can be president. it's a supposed failsafe to keep other countries from being able to plant one of their own citizens into our presidency.

no photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:49 PM
Even if Obama produced a vault copy these folks would find something else wrong.

Winx's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:50 PM

offtopic oops

so why should it matter if Obama was born in the US or became a citizen later?


Born to an American woman too.

Winx's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:50 PM

Even if Obama produced a vault copy these folks would find something else wrong.


Yep.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/06/09 06:58 PM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Fri 03/06/09 06:59 PM
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

article 2
section 1

http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A2Sec1.html

dantaylor28's photo
Fri 03/06/09 07:48 PM
this is kinda off topic . thanks t2 your gonna get me kicked in the butt again.grumble offtopic offtopic

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/06/09 07:49 PM

this is kinda off topic . thanks t2 your gonna get me kicked in the butt again.grumble offtopic offtopic


lol chicken

what's off topic??? you remember what thread you are in don't you?

dantaylor28's photo
Fri 03/06/09 07:51 PM
Edited by dantaylor28 on Fri 03/06/09 07:51 PM


this is kinda off topic . thanks t2 your gonna get me kicked in the butt again.grumble offtopic offtopic


lol chicken

what's off topic??? you remember what thread you are in don't you?


i dont know i'm lost i went away for a while and come back and we are talking about obama being born a citizen . lol . when i left t2 was asking me something about obamas orders being unlawfull . from that time on i was lost lol grumble indifferent

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/06/09 07:53 PM



this is kinda off topic . thanks t2 your gonna get me kicked in the butt again.grumble offtopic offtopic


lol chicken

what's off topic??? you remember what thread you are in don't you?


i dont know i'm lost i went away for a while and come back and we are talking about obama being born a citizen . lol . when i left t2 was asking me something about obamas orders being unlawfull . from that time on i was lost lol grumble indifferent


gimme your hand....i'll lead ya lol

it is all connected. next time don't leave lol

dantaylor28's photo
Fri 03/06/09 07:53 PM




this is kinda off topic . thanks t2 your gonna get me kicked in the butt again.grumble offtopic offtopic


lol chicken

what's off topic??? you remember what thread you are in don't you?


i dont know i'm lost i went away for a while and come back and we are talking about obama being born a citizen . lol . when i left t2 was asking me something about obamas orders being unlawfull . from that time on i was lost lol grumble indifferent


gimme your hand....i'll lead ya lol

it is all connected. next time don't leave lol


someone catch me up please.sad :cry:

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/06/09 07:54 PM
he was asking about obama's orders being unlawful because he may or may not be US born.

dantaylor28's photo
Fri 03/06/09 07:58 PM
Edited by dantaylor28 on Fri 03/06/09 07:58 PM

he was asking about obama's orders being unlawful because he may or may not be US born.


ok . you have to be born a citizen to be the president number one . number two even the presidents orders can be unlawfull . if you have a set of prisoners and they are unarmed and are not a threat and the president orders you to kill them , that is an unlwful order violates the rules of engagement . so no you dont have to follow those orders . thank you rose .:banana:

TJN's photo
Fri 03/06/09 07:59 PM

What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action?

I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations.

Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know.

Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code?

Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command?

According to the UCMJ if I remember correctly. You are to obey orders from your superiors. Now with President Obama's birth cirtificate being in question by this soldier it prob falls into one of those gray areas. But he should follow lawful orders until proven if it can be proven that President Obama is not a legaly born citizen.