The silenced and muzzle suppressed .308 is just plain nasty! Go figure...I still prefer my 870 with magnum slugs....when you can shoot a fist sized chunk out of a telephone pole...it puts things into perspective.

My house is safe. Good neighborhood. I put glass block windows in the basement and steel doors with the best deadbolts. Dog. Security but I refuse to live paranoid with a gun.

I know 3 people that have been murdered. That's why I did that to my house.

Glad you got to experience that bro! Sounds like a kick!

Good for you Walk. That has got to be a great mental tattoo!

Hell yea it does!!

How well does that silencer work on the .308? I've always wondered that.

I do have a passion for that standard military stuff because that's the only place i got to play with cool hardware like that. I enjoyed the .308, the round drops quite a bit at 1,000m but it's consistent, which i like...

I'm totally jealous btw...

My bro in law is a liscenced arms dealer...silencers (Distribution as well as manufacturing liscences)..as well as full auto gear...which is too much maintantence for me to want to deal with.

I swear I get silencers for christmas....

Kind of works out cause I give him .226 land mines and Crown Royal for home defence...so it kind of works out.

He is legit...I do more guerilla tactics.



a suppressed and silenced 308 sounds like a .22 from about 40 feet away. If you are close...you hear it...beyond about 50'...you wouldn't recognize it. Sounds more like a cap gun.

A President cant overturn a Supreme Court decision, and yet,
everyone runs out when Obama is elected to buy guns.
Hell, half, no 60% of them cant even shoot.

Conspiracy theory run rampant........

Yep.

Just can't help but chuckling at the concept....

I have actually gotten rid of my nastier stuff.....(You can actually shoot harpoons from a shot gun... not kidding)

I find it puts a smile on my face at the thought of arms restrictions...cause the only ones that it will affect...are the ones who will bow thier heads and hand in thier weaponry......that would be exactly ZERO of the people that I know.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/10317DA30FD128328625751F0011D85F?OpenDocument

St. Louis Police collected 997 guns. People gave them up voluntarily in a buyback program.

Court rules in favor of Second Amendment gun right
By Ap
June 26, 2008


The Supreme Court ruled today that Americans have a right to own guns for self-defense and hunting, the justices' first major pronouncement on gun rights in U.S. history.

The court's 5-4 ruling struck down the District of Columbia's 32-year-old ban on handguns as incompatible with gun rights under the Second Amendment. The decision went further than even the Bush administration wanted, but probably leaves most firearms laws intact.

The court had not conclusively interpreted the Second Amendment since its ratification in 1791. The amendment reads: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The basic issue for the justices was whether the amendment protects an individual's right to own guns no matter what, or whether that right is somehow tied to service in a state militia.

Writing for the majority, Justice Antonin Scalia said that an individual right to bear arms is supported by "the historical narrative" both before and after the Second Amendment was adopted.

The Constitution does not permit "the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home," Scalia said. The court also struck down Washington's requirement that firearms be equipped with trigger locks or kept disassembled, but left intact the licensing of guns.

In a dissent he summarized from the bench, Justice John Paul Stevens wrote that the majority "would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons."

He said such evidence "is nowhere to be found."

Justice Stephen Breyer wrote a separate dissent in which he said, "In my view, there simply is no untouchable constitutional right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to keep loaded handguns in the house in crime-ridden urban areas."

Joining Scalia were Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Clarence Thomas. The other dissenters were Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and David Souter.

Gun rights supporters hailed the decision. "I consider this the opening salvo in a step-by-step process of providing relief for law-abiding Americans everywhere that have been deprived of this freedom," said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association.

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/27/nation/na-scotus27

Uninformed Paranoia!

The ones who fell for the chit and then ran out and bought weapons should be ruled mentally unfit to own them!

I am with you on that one... Of course if they aren't around and there are 5 guys at my door wanting my .38 and my shotgun... hmmm

Unfortunately?

Are you a foreigner or something? From Europe? Here in America, owning guns is our duty, written into our constitution, in order to protect from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

it's not our duty . it's our right . there is a difference . you average citizen has no need for anything bigger then a hunting rifle .

Nogames,

It's not my duty. I refuse to have one.

it is a duty for soldiers and police not for civillians.

A. hunting rifles can do plenty of damage. some of those super mag loads are pretty powerful.

B.what part of "shall not be infringed" is hard to understand?

besides, you can't get assault weapons without a class 3 FFL or NFA license. those guys aren't the ones going around shooting people. Enforce the laws that are already on the books. The problem is with street criminals who commit the crimes, not the inanimate object in his hands or clumsily shoved into the waistband of his pants.

You, a former soldier, are the last person I expected to come out in favor of arms control.

what a new Obama-style "assault weapons" ban will outlaw: all semi-auto shotguns, rifles, handguns and all the ammo that feeds them.

That describes about 90% of most every gun owner's cabinet. pump action shotguns, bolt action rifles and revolvers are all that's left. meanwhile police departments spend tax-payer money on ar-15's kevelar, barret .50's, armoured vehicles. some say the miilitarizing of police departments is behind the current acute shortage of .223 ammo.

Who should be afraid of whom here?

there has already been rumblings about import restrictions on surplus ammo and availability of the more common calibers right now is slim at best.

personally, I think he won't be happy until all that's left available for public consumption is smooth bore muzzle loaders..

that's a scary statement from someone that says he was in the military and took an oath to the constitution.

yes i did proudly serve . but i dont look at owning weapons as a duty for civilians , i own weapons because it is my right and i enjoy shooting and hunting . not because i may need to take that weapon up against the enemy . i stopped worrying about that when i left the army .

Well said.