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So, would you sign a gag order prior to receiving medical treatment?
This is really incredible. Docs seek gag orders to stop patients' reviews By LINDSEY TANNER, AP Medical Writer Lindsey Tanner, Ap Medical Writer – Wed Mar 4, 12:14 am ET CHICAGO – The anonymous comment on the Web site RateMDs.com was unsparing: "Very unhelpful, arrogant," it said of a doctor. "Did not listen and cut me off, seemed much too happy to have power (and abuse it!) over suffering people." Such reviews are becoming more common as consumer ratings services like Zagat's and Angie's List expand beyond restaurants and plumbers to medical care, and some doctors are fighting back. They're asking patients to agree to what amounts to a gag order that bars them from posting negative comments online. Full article: http://fe23.story.media.ac4.yahoo.com/news/us/story/ap/20090304/ap_on_he_me/med_gagging_patients |
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I believe that is not only illegal but unconstitutional!
If he was a good doctor he would have nothing to fear! |
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One would think people wouldn't surrender their rights so easily.
In fact many people do daily without realizing it when they buy and submit warranties and that sort of thing that limit a persons rights to arbitration and that sort of thing. It is becoming more and more common. Liability is an interesting thing. As we have seen quite famously in the Ford Pinto case companies sometimes continue to engage in unsafe practices knowing that should they get caught the cost of paying for a couple hundred dead people is still cheaper than changing their product. Sadly I think there are physicians who operate on much the same basis. Another reason not to limit peoples access to court or to limit monetary damages in tort cases...but that's another thread. |
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all of this happening and there are people out there in the world that think there is nothing wrong. amazing. like you said lynann, people are giving away their rights everyday all day long and don't think twice about it as long as they are told it is good for them.
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I believe that is not only illegal but unconstitutional! If he was a good doctor he would have nothing to fear! 
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Suppress it! Suppress the Gag Reflex!
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I hear women without gag reflexes are generally quite popular!
haha Waits to be thumped ...yes...I know my comment is crude...I...just...couldn't...help myself! |
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I hear women without gag reflexes are generally quite popular! haha Waits to be thumped ...yes...I know my comment is crude...I...just...couldn't...help myself! hehehe...i considered typing the same thing  any one that would sign that is stupid. IMO |
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i like the idea of publishing the names of the docs who are requesting that their patients sign such a document!
 
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i like the idea of publishing the names of the docs who are requesting that their patients sign such a document! exactly so I can avoid that office. they have something to hide |
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Once again being one the voices of reason here, it appears I have to take it upon myself to provide this topic with a little perspective. The comment mentioned in the article was posted anonymously. Perhaps a disgruntled/fired employee? A competitor/rival? A former patient with other issues (E.G. Offended that the Dr. said this person needs to lose weight and should exercise/advice contrary to the patients belief)? It very well might have been a legitimate opinion as well. Who knows.
Using this forum site as my example, there are "rules" in regards to comments about other posters, correct? I ask you, the gentle reader to pretend for a moment that this is RateMD.com instead. The below mentioned comment is for analgonous purposes ONLY. Using Lynann "the doctor" and me as "the patient" as the example. "Lynann is a lesbian pedophile who freqently engages in beastiality. She doesn't have a job. She's spent the last five years in prison for child molestation and shoplifting. She has frequent bouts with herpes and has genital warts. She hates men and anything of the male species (including a tattoo with an arrow pointing down saying "no men allowed" on her bikini line), so guys don't even bother e-mailing her." The first legitimate question would naturally be, "Are his comments true (assuming I'm even a male to begin with)"? Who knows for sure but Lynann and myself. Maybe Lynann and I had a secret real life relationship in the past that ended badly (disgruntled ex). Maybe the above opinion/comments was an attempt to make her stop e-mailing me, telling me how much she loves and wants me. There is no way a third party can deem how accurate the comment is; Hence, pointless and perhaps libelous. As a former med student, we were taught/bound by ethics not to discuss patients specifically (as by full name/specific identity) aside from professional consultations. Later came HIPAA and medical privacy for patients (which prevents healthcare providers from releasing specific medical records about specific individuals on places like online without permission). What is present is a double standard. A POSSIBLE patient may speak about a physician anonymously, yet the physician must remain silent and must defend themselves even more. Patients are provided questionaires and an opportunity to voice their opinions at all major medical facilities. When it comes to medical services, word of mouth by friends, family, and those held in personal high regard are far better than ANY anonymous online opinion... in my opinion. Experiences will still vary regardless. Just like in any profession, there are good doctors and bad doctors (as the article pointed out). There are a plethora of "checks and balances" in the medical profession already. Board/peer reviews, lawyers, patient and administrative evaluations. Doctors have to practice defensive medicine and try to eliminate as much liability as possible just to stay in business. Taking the path of least resistance to find a good dr. by relying on "anonymous" comments is just plain stupidity in my opinion. |
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Once again being one the voices of reason here, it appears I have to take it upon myself to provide this topic with a little perspective. The comment mentioned in the article was posted anonymously. Perhaps a disgruntled/fired employee? A competitor/rival? A former patient with other issues (E.G. Offended that the Dr. said this person needs to lose weight and should exercise/advice contrary to the patients belief)? It very well might have been a legitimate opinion as well. Who knows. Using this forum site as my example, there are "rules" in regards to comments about other posters, correct? I ask you, the gentle reader to pretend for a moment that this is RateMD.com instead. The below mentioned comment is for analgonous purposes ONLY. Using Lynann "the doctor" and me as "the patient" as the example. "Lynann is a lesbian pedophile who freqently engages in beastiality. She doesn't have a job. She's spent the last five years in prison for child molestation and shoplifting. She has frequent bouts with herpes and has genital warts. She hates men and anything of the male species (including a tattoo with an arrow pointing down saying "no men allowed" on her bikini line), so guys don't even bother e-mailing her." The first legitimate question would naturally be, "Are his comments true (assuming I'm even a male to begin with)"? Who knows for sure but Lynann and myself. Maybe Lynann and I had a secret real life relationship in the past that ended badly (disgruntled ex). Maybe the above opinion/comments was an attempt to make her stop e-mailing me, telling me how much she loves and wants me. There is no way a third party can deem how accurate the comment is; Hence, pointless and perhaps libelous. As a former med student, we were taught/bound by ethics not to discuss patients specifically (as by full name/specific identity) aside from professional consultations. Later came HIPAA and medical privacy for patients (which prevents healthcare providers from releasing specific medical records about specific individuals on places like online without permission). What is present is a double standard. A POSSIBLE patient may speak about a physician anonymously, yet the physician must remain silent and must defend themselves even more. Patients are provided questionaires and an opportunity to voice their opinions at all major medical facilities. When it comes to medical services, word of mouth by friends, family, and those held in personal high regard are far better than ANY anonymous online opinion... in my opinion. Experiences will still vary regardless. Just like in any profession, there are good doctors and bad doctors (as the article pointed out). There are a plethora of "checks and balances" in the medical profession already. Board/peer reviews, lawyers, patient and administrative evaluations. Doctors have to practice defensive medicine and try to eliminate as much liability as possible just to stay in business. Taking the path of least resistance to find a good dr. by relying on "anonymous" comments is just plain stupidity in my opinion. Bee/Gio 2112...  |
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You had fun with that didn't you Bee?
And here I was thinking you didn't love me anymore? HA HA HA There are many sites that allow anonymous posting to rate various services. I don't care about that one way or the other. Certainly any rational adult viewing anonymous posting on any site is smart enough to take those comments with a grain of salt. My point in posting was to bring to the attention of other posters the subject of doctors seeking to limit a potential patients speech before treating them. So, thanks for the "voice of reason" but I think you missed the reason this was posted entirely. However you are welcome for the opening hahaha |
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ok, scenario number 2)
my wife and i went to doctor think2deep. he seemed fine at first, but the night before the birth, they were going to do a stress test on the baby, dr. think2deep decided that they didn't need to do that since he was feeling positive about the pregnancy. the next day, my wife gave birth to a beautiful baby girl, the only problem was that the umbilical chord had been wrapped around our daughter's neck and she was born dead!!!!. if dr. think2deep would have just followed procedure and had the stress test done, this could have been prevented, we sued dr. think2deep in court and won. he was guilty of negligence. |
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You had fun with that didn't you Bee? And here I was thinking you didn't love me anymore? HA HA HA There are many sites that allow anonymous posting to rate various services. I don't care about that one way or the other. Certainly any rational adult viewing anonymous posting on any site is smart enough to take those comments with a grain of salt. My point in posting was to bring to the attention of other posters the subject of doctors seeking to limit a potential patients speech before treating them. So, thanks for the "voice of reason" but I think you missed the reason this was posted entirely. However you are welcome for the opening hahaha send your contributions to " Take Back America "....com...ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh for the 50's...  Bee / Gio 2112
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Edited by
beeorganic
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Wed 03/04/09 03:56 PM
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You had fun with that didn't you Bee? And here I was thinking you didn't love me anymore? HA HA HA There are many sites that allow anonymous posting to rate various services. I don't care about that one way or the other. Certainly any rational adult viewing anonymous posting on any site is smart enough to take those comments with a grain of salt. My point in posting was to bring to the attention of other posters the subject of doctors seeking to limit a potential patients speech before treating them. So, thanks for the "voice of reason" but I think you missed the reason this was posted entirely. However you are welcome for the opening hahaha Lynann, I always have restrained fun with your topics. This one just provided a little more lateral flexibility for creativity is all. My apologies for not dedicating more attention to and towards you and your topics as of late... and allowing your thoughts wander. Granted, there are many sites that allow anonymous rating sites; In which, the credibility is about as reliable as the cost to post on them too. I wouldn't say you were indifferent about this issue. You stated initially "This is really incredible". One may generally believe that "any rational adult" would take the comments with a grain of salt (hopefully more like deer salt-lick block); However, many a topic posted here of the actions and endeavors of others should serve as the prime example that we don't reside in a world of neurosurgeons also. You know... like all those brainwashed Rush Limbaugh listeners mention in other threads here (arid sarcasm). Yes, you did bring this matter to the attention other posters (giving proverbial birth to it so to speak). I merely provided the substance/sustenance you failed to provide in nourishing this topic; Hence, dependent upon by the likes of me for growth. As per missing the point, tis appears to be a bullseye afterall. You are more than welcome I have chosen to return to the warmth of your ample... topics and you firmly embracing me back into their folds ever so tightly. It's flattering to know my certain touch with words has been missed and yearned for. |
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OMG!!!!! get a room!!!!! lmao
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NEVER let a man's thoughts wander
KIDDING |
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/looks around
Nope Bee isn't the last man on earth. I posted on another thread that I had a sort of crush on a poster I consider intelligent and entertaining here on Mingle forums but it wasn't Bee or Gio...despite Gio's obvious asset. See how nice I am? |
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