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i am sorry of anyone has experienced this. but I do KNOW SOME GOOD JUDGES, COPS, LAWYERS ETC these people DO care and aren't corrupt. they look at the whole picture now let's turn this around (since we want to focus on this instead) what about the child and the custodial parent? i understand people lose their jobs... but it's a struggle for the other side as well my son's mother married a man that is well off enough that my bit of child support is like gas money to them. i understand your point....but it's not his responsibilty to do that my point is that my child isn't suffering. You just don't get it. the thing is he does get it . but what rights do fathers have when we are orderd to pay bu work isnt available . with my hours being cut because of the eonomy my child support takes more then half my wages what am i supposed to live on ? where are the fathers rights? I see both sides.  I am a single mom and have to deal with what's going to too. I feel that the priority is the child. I'm still sympathetic to all sides. Why don't you have your child support revised to support the discrepancy of your income? i'v tried it's based on potential earnings not actual earnings. That doesn't seem right. I guess you'll just have to keep trying. lol it does no good . i make it . at least mine is paid i feel for these guys who have lost there jobs outright and cant pay theres and are going to jail . it's not right . |
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rose...dan is no help here...he got us back on topic then detoured again i know rose...but i blame winx for that...i don't know why but i do rose...that winx is a crafty lil thing...watch out for her kicks sorry rose back on topic . what do you think is a solution to the problem of the immagration raids and checkpoints? |
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i am sorry of anyone has experienced this. but I do KNOW SOME GOOD JUDGES, COPS, LAWYERS ETC these people DO care and aren't corrupt. they look at the whole picture now let's turn this around (since we want to focus on this instead) what about the child and the custodial parent? i understand people lose their jobs... but it's a struggle for the other side as well my son's mother married a man that is well off enough that my bit of child support is like gas money to them. i understand your point....but it's not his responsibilty to do that my point is that my child isn't suffering. You just don't get it. the thing is he does get it . but what rights do fathers have when we are orderd to pay bu work isnt available . with my hours being cut because of the eonomy my child support takes more then half my wages what am i supposed to live on ? where are the fathers rights? I see both sides. I am a single mom and have to deal with what's going to too. I feel that the priority is the child. I'm still sympathetic to all sides. Why don't you have your child support revised to support the discrepancy of your income? i'v tried it's based on potential earnings not actual earnings. That doesn't seem right. I guess you'll just have to keep trying. yeah, that statement should make all the hurt go away. winx that was what is known as a disassosiative statement. the statement that people use when they themselves can't see a solution but wants to kind of keep pushing their point. not a nice thing to do. |
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i am sorry of anyone has experienced this. but I do KNOW SOME GOOD JUDGES, COPS, LAWYERS ETC these people DO care and aren't corrupt. they look at the whole picture now let's turn this around (since we want to focus on this instead) what about the child and the custodial parent? i understand people lose their jobs... but it's a struggle for the other side as well my son's mother married a man that is well off enough that my bit of child support is like gas money to them. i understand your point....but it's not his responsibilty to do that my point is that my child isn't suffering. You just don't get it. the thing is he does get it . but what rights do fathers have when we are orderd to pay bu work isnt available . with my hours being cut because of the eonomy my child support takes more then half my wages what am i supposed to live on ? where are the fathers rights? I see both sides. I am a single mom and have to deal with what's going to too. I feel that the priority is the child. I'm still sympathetic to all sides. Why don't you have your child support revised to support the discrepancy of your income? i'v tried it's based on potential earnings not actual earnings. That doesn't seem right. I guess you'll just have to keep trying. yeah, that statement should make all the hurt go away. winx that was what is known as a disassosiative statement. the statement that people use when they themselves can't see a solution but wants to kind of keep pushing their point. not a nice thing to do. i dont think she meant it that way man . it's ok . 
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rose...dan is no help here...he got us back on topic then detoured again i know rose...but i blame winx for that...i don't know why but i do rose...that winx is a crafty lil thing...watch out for her kicks sorry rose back on topic . what do you think is a solution to the problem of the immagration raids and checkpoints? well ty for asking dan. like i have said...i don't know. i would back a plan that would be better the reason hispanics are the target in our states is because we border mexico....nothing more. that's where the majority comes from. not other countries. i have great friends that are hispanic and i'm sure they wouldn't know either. right now...there is no good solution. we don't have the manpower to patrol the borders as it is. there are army troops around there in some parts. i really don't know. you can't tell by reactions, clothes or anything else and i doubt they will have a t-shirt saying i'm illegal. i don't like profiling anymore than you do....but i can't think of a better solution |
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i am sorry of anyone has experienced this. but I do KNOW SOME GOOD JUDGES, COPS, LAWYERS ETC these people DO care and aren't corrupt. they look at the whole picture now let's turn this around (since we want to focus on this instead) what about the child and the custodial parent? i understand people lose their jobs... but it's a struggle for the other side as well my son's mother married a man that is well off enough that my bit of child support is like gas money to them. i understand your point....but it's not his responsibilty to do that my point is that my child isn't suffering. You just don't get it. the thing is he does get it . but what rights do fathers have when we are orderd to pay bu work isnt available . with my hours being cut because of the eonomy my child support takes more then half my wages what am i supposed to live on ? where are the fathers rights? I see both sides. I am a single mom and have to deal with what's going to too. I feel that the priority is the child. I'm still sympathetic to all sides. Why don't you have your child support revised to support the discrepancy of your income? i'v tried it's based on potential earnings not actual earnings. That doesn't seem right. I guess you'll just have to keep trying. yeah, that statement should make all the hurt go away. winx that was what is known as a disassosiative statement. the statement that people use when they themselves can't see a solution but wants to kind of keep pushing their point. not a nice thing to do. i dont think she meant it that way man . it's ok . I didn't. I meant to keep trying to get your payments lowered to fit your hours being paid. It's only fair. |
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Winx
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Tue 03/03/09 12:16 PM
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i am sorry of anyone has experienced this. but I do KNOW SOME GOOD JUDGES, COPS, LAWYERS ETC these people DO care and aren't corrupt. they look at the whole picture now let's turn this around (since we want to focus on this instead) what about the child and the custodial parent? i understand people lose their jobs... but it's a struggle for the other side as well my son's mother married a man that is well off enough that my bit of child support is like gas money to them. i understand your point....but it's not his responsibilty to do that my point is that my child isn't suffering. You just don't get it. the thing is he does get it . but what rights do fathers have when we are orderd to pay bu work isnt available . with my hours being cut because of the eonomy my child support takes more then half my wages what am i supposed to live on ? where are the fathers rights? I see both sides. I am a single mom and have to deal with what's going to too. I feel that the priority is the child. I'm still sympathetic to all sides. Why don't you have your child support revised to support the discrepancy of your income? i'v tried it's based on potential earnings not actual earnings. That doesn't seem right. I guess you'll just have to keep trying. yeah, that statement should make all the hurt go away. winx that was what is known as a disassosiative statement. the statement that people use when they themselves can't see a solution but wants to kind of keep pushing their point. not a nice thing to do. You are way off base here and out of line. |
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ummmmmmmm dan and T2....you 2 can go into a corner if you can't focus here
i'll find a round room and tell you that you have 10 seconds to get in a corner or else |
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WINX!!!!!!!!!! stop encouraging them
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rose...dan is no help here...he got us back on topic then detoured again i know rose...but i blame winx for that...i don't know why but i do rose...that winx is a crafty lil thing...watch out for her kicks sorry rose back on topic . what do you think is a solution to the problem of the immagration raids and checkpoints? well ty for asking dan. like i have said...i don't know. i would back a plan that would be better the reason hispanics are the target in our states is because we border mexico....nothing more. that's where the majority comes from. not other countries. i have great friends that are hispanic and i'm sure they wouldn't know either. right now...there is no good solution. we don't have the manpower to patrol the borders as it is. there are army troops around there in some parts. i really don't know. you can't tell by reactions, clothes or anything else and i doubt they will have a t-shirt saying i'm illegal. i don't like profiling anymore than you do....but i can't think of a better solution profileing though wether there is no other choice is wrong . and my point is i know its not going to stop but i understand why these people are upset and protesting and i do support them . there has to be a better way . |
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rose...dan is no help here...he got us back on topic then detoured again i know rose...but i blame winx for that...i don't know why but i do rose...that winx is a crafty lil thing...watch out for her kicks sorry rose back on topic . what do you think is a solution to the problem of the immagration raids and checkpoints? well ty for asking dan. like i have said...i don't know. i would back a plan that would be better the reason hispanics are the target in our states is because we border mexico....nothing more. that's where the majority comes from. not other countries. i have great friends that are hispanic and i'm sure they wouldn't know either. right now...there is no good solution. we don't have the manpower to patrol the borders as it is. there are army troops around there in some parts. i really don't know. you can't tell by reactions, clothes or anything else and i doubt they will have a t-shirt saying i'm illegal. i don't like profiling anymore than you do....but i can't think of a better solution There doesn't seem to be a good solution that I can see. I spent the day Sunday with my ex's family for my child's birthday. My ex's brother-in-law is 2nd generation Hispanic. He can't speak Spanish. But..there is not doubt that he could be pulled over with profiling when going by his looks. I would hate to see that happen to him. At the same time, it happens to black people too. |
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WINX!!!!!!!!!! stop encouraging them brb |
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ummmmmmmm dan and T2....you 2 can go into a corner if you can't focus here i'll find a round room and tell you that you have 10 seconds to get in a corner or else sorry i was actualy trying to defend winx lol . knowing how she meant the statement didnt mean to go off topic lol |
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rose...dan is no help here...he got us back on topic then detoured again i know rose...but i blame winx for that...i don't know why but i do rose...that winx is a crafty lil thing...watch out for her kicks sorry rose back on topic . what do you think is a solution to the problem of the immagration raids and checkpoints? well ty for asking dan. like i have said...i don't know. i would back a plan that would be better the reason hispanics are the target in our states is because we border mexico....nothing more. that's where the majority comes from. not other countries. i have great friends that are hispanic and i'm sure they wouldn't know either. right now...there is no good solution. we don't have the manpower to patrol the borders as it is. there are army troops around there in some parts. i really don't know. you can't tell by reactions, clothes or anything else and i doubt they will have a t-shirt saying i'm illegal. i don't like profiling anymore than you do....but i can't think of a better solution There doesn't seem to be a good solution that I can see. I spent the day Sunday with my ex's family for my child's birthday. My ex's brother-in-law is 2nd generation Hispanic. He can't speak Spanish. But..there is not doubt that he could be pulled over with profiling when going by his looks. I would hate to see that happen to him. At the same time, it happens to black people too. my kids are half hispanic , and i would hate for them to be pulled over when they get older just to prove they are citizens . i guess i just look at this different . just because there is no better way does not mean it should be done . the way we used to do it worked . we pulled illegals off the street at about the same rate . |
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all 3 of you can go find a corner in a round room....i'll be nice and give ya 20 seconds
READY, SET, GO!!!!!!!!! |
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WINX!!!!!!!!!! stop encouraging them brb i feel a kick coming on i agree dan. i understand what a pain it is....but maybe the hispanic community can come up with a solution because i can't |
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rose...dan is no help here...he got us back on topic then detoured again i know rose...but i blame winx for that...i don't know why but i do rose...that winx is a crafty lil thing...watch out for her kicks sorry rose back on topic . what do you think is a solution to the problem of the immagration raids and checkpoints? well ty for asking dan. like i have said...i don't know. i would back a plan that would be better the reason hispanics are the target in our states is because we border mexico....nothing more. that's where the majority comes from. not other countries. i have great friends that are hispanic and i'm sure they wouldn't know either. right now...there is no good solution. we don't have the manpower to patrol the borders as it is. there are army troops around there in some parts. i really don't know. you can't tell by reactions, clothes or anything else and i doubt they will have a t-shirt saying i'm illegal. i don't like profiling anymore than you do....but i can't think of a better solution There doesn't seem to be a good solution that I can see. I spent the day Sunday with my ex's family for my child's birthday. My ex's brother-in-law is 2nd generation Hispanic. He can't speak Spanish. But..there is not doubt that he could be pulled over with profiling when going by his looks. I would hate to see that happen to him. At the same time, it happens to black people too. my kids are half hispanic , and i would hate for them to be pulled over when they get older just to prove they are citizens . i guess i just look at this different . just because there is no better way does not mean it should be done . the way we used to do it worked . we pulled illegals off the street at about the same rate . My niece is full Hispanic - third generation. Her dad is my ex's brother-in-law's child from another marriage. She's driving now and I cringe at the thought of that child being pulled over like that. I don't have the answers though. |
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ummmmmmmm dan and T2....you 2 can go into a corner if you can't focus here i'll find a round room and tell you that you have 10 seconds to get in a corner or else sorry i was actualy trying to defend winx lol . knowing how she meant the statement didnt mean to go off topic lol
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WINX!!!!!!!!!! stop encouraging them brb i feel a kick coming on i agree dan. i understand what a pain it is....but maybe the hispanic community can come up with a solution because i can't i agree with ya . i just think if your going to do them you stop everybody at the checkpoint and just do a general search . never know you might pull some drug dealers off the street . your already stopping people . then there is no profileing because we are checking everyone at the same checkpoint . |
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rose...dan is no help here...he got us back on topic then detoured again i know rose...but i blame winx for that...i don't know why but i do rose...that winx is a crafty lil thing...watch out for her kicks sorry rose back on topic . what do you think is a solution to the problem of the immagration raids and checkpoints? well ty for asking dan. like i have said...i don't know. i would back a plan that would be better the reason hispanics are the target in our states is because we border mexico....nothing more. that's where the majority comes from. not other countries. i have great friends that are hispanic and i'm sure they wouldn't know either. right now...there is no good solution. we don't have the manpower to patrol the borders as it is. there are army troops around there in some parts. i really don't know. you can't tell by reactions, clothes or anything else and i doubt they will have a t-shirt saying i'm illegal. i don't like profiling anymore than you do....but i can't think of a better solution There doesn't seem to be a good solution that I can see. I spent the day Sunday with my ex's family for my child's birthday. My ex's brother-in-law is 2nd generation Hispanic. He can't speak Spanish. But..there is not doubt that he could be pulled over with profiling when going by his looks. I would hate to see that happen to him. At the same time, it happens to black people too. my kids are half hispanic , and i would hate for them to be pulled over when they get older just to prove they are citizens . i guess i just look at this different . just because there is no better way does not mean it should be done . the way we used to do it worked . we pulled illegals off the street at about the same rate . My niece is full Hispanic - third generation. Her dad is my ex's brother-in-law's child from another marriage. She's driving now and I cringe at the thought of that child being pulled over like that. I don't have the answers though. and i dont know about other states but in az with the economy the way it is the illegals arent even coming as rapidly because there is no work for them either lol . |
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