trinity is shorter to say than Father, Son and Holy Spirit

"yellowrose" ...that definition came out of the dictionary ...not the Bible ...if you want to prove that God is a Trinity then you have to go to the old testament and find where God said something about a trinity

wow funches....i tried to give you a definition to explain it to you.

the dictionary defines the trinity that way. just because Jesus didn't say the word trinity doesn't mean the trinity isn't just that

it's a shorter word to discribe it is all

don't over analyze everything

Jesus talked about the "trinity". Jesus wasn't in the Old Testament

"yellowrose" ..when the last time you seen someone cross their heart and blurt out the word "Trinity" instead of saiding "the father the son and the holy spirit" ...that's just being lazy

trinity is a term use to try and make it appear that Jesus is God ...which he clearly is not

i don't make the sign of the cross...that's mainly catholics. i have heard the word trinity used MANY times in reference to this

now you argue with the dictionary???? i thought that at least would clarify it for you

"yellowrose" ...if Jesus is God then why isn't he in the old testament

"yellowrose" ..DEBATING CLASS 101 ..once someone use the terms subjective, objective, paradox, attacks someone personally, or cut and paste from the dictionary .....they have no argument

if you wish to prove it then find it in the bible in the old testament where God said it ...not run to the dictionary where Man made it up

Jesus the man...wasn't born yet.

i thought even YOU could understand the dictionary. the dictionary was man made as well as the word trinity...along with many other words

He is in GENESIS 1

"yellowrose" ..I can also run to the dictionary and cut and paste the definition "Delusional" ....but I try to debates whats in the bible ...the term trinity doesn't exist in the bible and God made no reference to it in the old testament

last time....accept it or not...the trinity refers to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit

sorry if that's not clear. it's perfect clear to me

the definition of delusional can be attributed to alot of people...including you.

again...take it for what it is. if you want to learn like you claim...try to listen more and if you still don't agree...agree to disagree. you are only repeating yourself and going in circles

"yellowrose" ..to agree to disagree is for losers ..either you can find Jesus name as being God in the old testament or you can't

i've already answered you. repeating yourself when you pick what you want to listen to...doesn't help you learn

but that's on you not me

good luck understanding....put your listening ears on

trinity for me is one scoop of chocolate ice cream, one scoop of vanilla ice cream, and one scoop of strawberry ice cream.

and it is a delightful experience guaranteed

Have a great night folks

You too smiless

all in one cone or bowl huh????

where's my ice cream punk??? lol

well then cut and paste from the old testament where God mention Jesus and the trinity, not from funk and wagnalls

the God in the old testament didn't play that trinity crap

i have answered you on that already

Since I will not get accused of scripture bending may I cast your attention to Romans Chapter 8.

In the end it all boils down to one last sentence Romans 8:12 through 17.


Romans 8

1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

18For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

19For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

24For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

26Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

27And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

28And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

31What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.



This is from the King James Bible.


Romans 8:2: 2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Romans 8:15 - 17: 15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.


For one it says "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus."'

This one passage renders your entire argument moot to a christian of any kind if you want to get literal. The LAW of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus was his teachings. Oddly and I have battered Catholic Priests GALORE (and they are not used to coming up on people like me who do know the bible rather intimately) whole concept of which faith was right. It does not specify any one faith other than ones who accept the work of Jesus law of living with the Spirit. Now what about other faiths that practice peace for each other and love of Nature but not Jehova?

Now what is Christ Jesus law?

John 13.34 - 35: 34A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

AND

Matthew 5 6 and 7!

Dude! If God can condemn his own children to hell than your God is Satan! Seriously, how can a loving God do something so fuqued up??? Where does it even say in the bible that the Church is a building or organization???


Please, I really would like to know????

You cast stones so softly but they are still hitting glass windows!